What does Leonard Listen to for Entertainment

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Sat Apr 26, 2003 2:04 am

Sounds intresting....................at the moment i live with three and will waite to see if the other hits me
best regards Byron....................Georges

John the Shorts · Post by **John the Shorts** » Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:42 pm

Byron

Tom & Leonard as 2 varieties of Guinness - I can tell that you are a poet at heart, no one but a poet could have sparked that imagery.

JTS (Not sure how it fits in with Tom's track Warm Beer And Cold Women Guinness has to be drunk Ice Cold)

Arthur42Dent · Post by **Arthur42Dent** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:03 am

Kush wrote:Country music, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan (Qawwali music from Northern India and Pakistan) and Tom Waits. These are ones that I'm aware of that he likes.

I'm not surprised that he likes Tom Waits. Tom reminds me of him a lot. Except that he has a nicer voice. (haha)

Arthur42Dent · Post by **Arthur42Dent** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:07 am

partisan wrote:Slightly off topic but i know several Cohen fans who really like Eminem. In fact as i recall he even got quoted at the Hydra event. Now who was it who did that............?

p.

Perhaps some Leonards fans like Eminem cause he's a wordsmith.

Although Eminem has absolutely no substance to his music. It's a lot easier to create multi-sylabic rhymes when you're not talking about anything important or intelligent. Leonard says so much more with using much less words.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Wed May 07, 2003 3:45 pm

I have to disagree with you Arthur I really like Eminen. Some of his rap has substance and some of it is (c)rap but I think you are doing him a diservice to write him off. I do agree Leonard gets to the heart and soul of the matter more succinctly and Eminen's lyrics are more street wise,

Arthur42Dent · Post by **Arthur42Dent** » Thu May 08, 2003 5:42 am

Paula wrote:I have to disagree with you Arthur I really like Eminen. Some of his rap has substance and some of it is (c)rap but I think you are doing him a diservice to write him off. I do agree Leonard gets to the heart and soul of the matter more succinctly and Eminen's lyrics are more street wise,

Tsk, tsk.

I used to like him a lot. I still think the "slim shady LP" is nice and has moments of brilliance but now he just annoys the hell out of me.

jurica · Post by **jurica** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 11:41 am

just ran across this quote at the front page of a David Blue site:

"In the last few years, something happened to his voice and his guitar, something very deep and sweet entered, his timing became immaculate and we knew that we were listening to one of the finest, one of the few men singing in America and I was happy then and perhaps even happier now to say that I told him that."

-Leonard Cohen

jurica · Post by **jurica** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 11:43 am

wow, there's actualy a whole article Leonard wrote about him!

http://folk.uio.no/alfs/blue.html

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:24 pm

Thanks, jurica

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lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 7:39 am

I printed and read it yesterday. That was a wonderful eulogy by Leonard regarding David Blue, who between his name and his looks, could be Leonard's cousin or brother. Leonard's writing certainly made crystal clear that commercial success is not where all the best artists end up...so one can never presume that because someone's not "made it" that they lack ability and talent. David even had already-successful people in his corner. I loved the phrases "and he sang for us in hotel rooms and kitchens;" "and he stretched his arms so wide, that we were all able to recognize ourselves, and we fell in love with him;" and "he had the grace to recognize the woman to whom he had always been singing" ~ oh, for crying out loud, if I keep this up, I'll redo the whole thing, phrase by phrase, but out of context and order. Better to just go there yourselves and read it. I love hearing Leonard talking about other people.

If anyone's not done it yet, go and join [via Jarkko's main page] Marie Mazur's site. Once you join [at least when I did some time ago], you are rewarded with a link to the interview that Leonard conducted with Rebecca de Mornay. SO sweet!!! Worth reading!

Kush · Post by **Kush** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 4:25 pm

Here's a brief article on Eminem that I found on the Dylan site......this is for Paula.

Poet's praise for Eminem

One of the world's foremost poets has praised Eminem.

Seamus Heaney, 64, says Eminem has "sent a voltage around a generation".

Mr Heaney was speaking prior to the start of the Prince of Wales' Educational Summer School in Norwich, where he was a guest.

He was asked by journalists whether there was a figure in popular culture who aroused interest in poetry and lyrics in the way that Bob Dylan and John Lennon did during the 1960s and 70s.

Mr Heaney, former Professor of Poetry at Oxford University, said: "There is this guy Eminem. He has created a sense of what is possible.

"He has sent a voltage around a generation.

"He has done this not just through his subversive attitude but also his verbal energy."

Story filed: 19:34 Monday 30th June 2003

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:32 pm

Thats a nice article Kush. I think in years to come Eminem will have a web site just like this with people like us discussing his work. I hope so.

I always thought Dylan's Sub (sorry can't spell) Homesick blues was an early rap equivalent before they called it rap.

Kush did you ever get a chance to listen to Slim Shady and if you did what did you think?

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:23 am

Subterranean, Paula

. You may not know of them. They're out of New York, but I've always considered The Last Poets as the original "rap" artists. I first heard them approximately 1970-71. I didn't check, but I'm guessing Eminem's site already has a Forum for discussion of him and his lyrics.

Kush · Post by **Kush** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:30 pm

Paula....I have to admit that rap as a vocal style has been hard to get into for me....but I am sure eventually I will as I have most musical genres that I've listened to. Same goes for Tom Waits music.....he must be really good since so many like him but it has been impossible for me to get into his vocal style.
As for S. Homesick Blues....it may be the first known rap song. Dylan has written other songs that have a rap feel to it.....Rap artist Wyclef Jean claimed that the song Jokerman from the Infidels album was his inspiration and changed his musical direction. There are other songs.......Dignity, All I Really Want to Do, No Time to Think and Everything is Broken - they all have a rap feel. The last mentioned is also a little reminiscent for me of Cohen's poetry (not songs) atleast in substance.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:36 pm

I don't like rap per se but I can see it is a great way to get poetry to the young. Its like if you put anything to music it increases the mind being able to soak it up. The alphabet song when you were little and the doe ray me song from "Sound of Music". I think peoples brains are more receptive to learning if there is some rythum (sic) to it. And I think poetry is the same. Song lyrics are just poetry put to music (in the main).