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The word French

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I gather from BBC news last night that the word French has been banned in America. On Airforce One yesterday Bush didnot have French toast with his coffee but Blow Your Enemies Head of Coffee or something. Does this mean that our American friends will not be able to say that they like Cohen singing in french but that instead say that European language which could be confusing as the rest of us may think that they have discovered an all time rare track of Cohen singing in Croatian or something...
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Post by tom.d.stiller »

and the french fries are called freedom fries...

This kind of thing is not without tradition:

When the US entered WWI, the "German Measles" had been renamed "Liberty Measles" for a while, and maybe will be again, when I think of it.

Cohen sings in his second native tongue from Montreal, that's easy, Glyn.

I could probably think of more, but I don't want to attract the discussions we presently have on another Forum.

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I hope you post that in humor Glyn, I have not heard that the word French is banned it this country :D Or that President Bush had the coffee you suggested. It would change my opinion of everthing and everyone in this country if that were true. Although I am sure there are people here who feel that way, but in my part of the country we will joke about french fries or french toast.
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Post by tom.d.stiller »

Linda,
I post this in good humour:

Just take a look at this, and let's laugh about the stupidity of some people...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/ ... index.html

Maybe after all it's time for a change? :)

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It is quite acceptable to use the term "French", however you should be aware that these days it is a pejorative term. The French are not all bad though. They can be very generous. In 1991 they wanted to give Saddam lots of the things he asked for as a reward for invading Kuwait. Furthermore, who could forget the way they generously gave their entire country to dear old Adolf.

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I agree with the young man calling it ludicrous, and I believe there are people in congress that would recommend that. Makes you wonder doesn't it? I hope our President doesn't suggest that to anyone other than Barbara. Did the French trash Mc Donalds in France, which I think is a good idea to began with. I have thought of that myself.
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Well, I've actually heard where people are making these changes in their speech here in the U.S. and not laughing about it.....presumably a function of the "If you're not for us, you're against us" premise [and you know how we feel about our enemies]. Have you found NPR on your radio yet, Linda? Now, as I listen, I find myself wondering, "I wonder if Linda is hearing this."
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This happen to be CNN that reported the cafeteria thing and I missed that, and I had a local talk show on this morning, and Fox News so maybe didn't hear what you did Lizzytysh.
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Linda ~

Have you located NPR [National Public Radio] on your radio? They don't laugh and joke amongst themselves like the norm of radio stations. The segments relating to news and human interest, culture, etc. are lengthy and in depth. You will see the difference immediately, and I would hope become a regular listener. Though I won't claim that they are totally objective and balanced, they are by far moreso than regular stations....and you'll get a much more balanced view of things. I'm not saying you'll change your mind, but you will be getting information, and in a way, you never would have, otherwise.

They have local segments [in my case, by the University of Florida, out of where the broadcasting for the station originates] and then go to PRI [Public Radio International]. You'll clearly know you've "turned the page" of radio when you hopefully, finally tune in.

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I have seen reports of many U.S. citizens wanting to boycott France and French products. Restaurants emptying champagne into the streets, etc. I have made the suggestion on another thread that we boycott America. Starting with the Leonard Cohen Event in New York.
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I have been reliably informed that the "Leonard Cohen Event" in New York will harbour Weapons of Mass Distraction, brought together by an international network controlled from Finland.
They assume the collective name "Cohenistas", though it can subtly switch to "Cohenites", and, when necessary, "Beautiful Losers".
Afghanistan, Iraq......I reckon Finland's next for a regime change. They've only felt the tramp of the Russian Empire and the Third Reich: that's peanuts compared to a good dose of democracy.
In the past, man exploited man, but in the glorious future, it will be the other way around.
Yours, in a bunker, yet wrapped in a flag,
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I guess I know where I belong when it comes to this board, but sorry not Leonard Cohens music.
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Post by Charles »

Others are doing it. And Why not? Why shouldn't we. Because it would interfere with our pleasure?

From the Associated Press.

Anti-War Sentiments Grow in Germany


By MELISSA EDDY
The Associated Press
Friday, March 28, 2003; 2:12 PM


German anti-war sentiment is beginning to take the form of local boycotts.

A German doctor has hung a sign on his door, refusing to treat "Americans, Britons and any others who support the war" in Iraq. Restaurants in Hamburg have taken Coca-Cola and other U.S. products from their menus.

While many of the actions are aimed galvanizing large-scale boycotts of U.S. conglomerates like Coke and McDonalds, others, like the doctor in the northern German town of Rendsburg, are a more personal anti-war statement.

A handwritten sign on the door to 61-year-old Eberhard Hoffmann's dermatology practice warns anyone from countries belonging to the U.S.-led alliance against seeking treatment from him.

"I forbid Americans and Britons, as well as anyone else who supports the war to enter my practice," Hoffmann said Friday. "The war in Iraq is a crime."

Hoffmann acknowledged he has no U.S. or British patients and said the action was largely symbolic. But it indicates how deep German anti-war feelings are running.

Recent polls have shown that more than 80 percent of Germans are against the war in Iraq and fully stand behind Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's tough stance against President Bush's policy in Iraq.

In the northern port city of Hamburg, 10 French restaurant owners collectively decided last week to strike American products, including Coca-Cola, bourbon and Marlboro cigarettes, from their menus.

Jean-Yves Mabileau from L'Auberge Francaise said he was happy to take part in the action, partly out of retaliation against the boycott of French products in the United States and partly to protest the war.

While he described the restaurant's participation in the boycott as very subtle, saying there are no signs posted on its windows and clients are not otherwise notified, he threatened to take things a step further if the war did not end soon.

"If the Americans won't calm down, I'll start refusing to accept American Express and other U.S. credit cards," said Mabileau, adding he didn't think the move would hurt business.


Greek filmmakers, including award-winning director Theo Angelopoulos, have called for a boycott of U.S. movies to protest the war in Iraq.

In the southeastern French city of Bayonne, the staff of a bar run by Basque antimilitarists dumped their Coca-Cola stocks into the sewers Saturday.

Jean Bidegain, who runs the Triki bar, called on other establishments in the city to do the same and handed out a flyer reading: "No to war, no to American imperialism, boycott Coca-Cola."
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Post by tom.d.stiller »

This is just as ludicrous ...
"It's time that we began to laugh and cry and cry and laugh about it all again."
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