Right Use of Will

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Hello

oops sorry please move this to the right part of the Forum ... it doesn't belong in news ...

Am just new here, found you after found Ten New Songs so I don't know much ... I see that LC knows of the work of Ceanne deRohan ... can anybody tell me if this contributed to his healing the famous depression?

Myself a longtime practitioner of same ... it seems that healing the emotional body then frees the creativity but maybe L.C. didn't do it all in order ... for which we can all be grateful ...

Thank you ...

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what "healing the emotionel body" means? ahmed
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Hello

In her series of channeled books, the author, Ceanne deRohan, gives a history of creation that has with it a method to surface the hidden conditionings that keep people from vibrating freely ...

The emotional body is the same as the astral body or the dream body, it is one of the bodies that infuses and animates our physical bodies. In the astral body / emotional body are all the emotions that form or arise in response to sensations in the physical / etheric bodies. We get sensations from experience in the world whether physical experience or emotional mental imaginary experience. From the sensations we interpret into emotions. E - motion means that the purpose of this body is so we can move.

We feel hungry; we move to get food. We feel cold; we move to get warm. And so on ... so the emotional body is what moves us.

When it is conditioned by past experiences and, even worse, by denials as in forgetting, suppressing, repressing feelings, then we can lose the energy in it that is given to help us live.

Healing it would mean finding and surfacing all the repressed material that has gotten disowned, distorted, and is driving us.

One of the causes of depression (other than to intelligently reflect upon the apparent human condition and our prospects as souls living in bodies) can be the disownership of the energy or power of the emotional body through judgments against it ... freezing it and disabling it from moving freely ...

SO ... Right Use of Will teaches people how to get light and motion into the frozen parts of themselves. The idea is that when we can vibrate freely, then we are vibrating at the speed of light, and this is the condition of our timeless immortal bodies ... besides the emotional body, there is the etheric body ... called the Double by Tibetans ... and it is the first light body out from the physical.

The etheric body is the blueprint/matrix of our physical body. People who can see light bodies can easily see the etheric. I can do this. More clairvoyant people can see the astral body (Barbara Brennan Hands of Light). I cannot or can only rarely do this.

The next body is the mental / causal body and it probably holds the energy that we call our soul - god spark - higher self. I don't know anybody who can see that one.

I will stop and hope that this will answer your question.

Blessings,

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Hi Sylvia :D ~

Welcome to the Forum 8) . I've attended some discussions/seminars/trainings that support what you've outlined. I 'believe in that stuff' :wink: . Your information is well and pretty-simply explained.

When you think of how you feel physiologically in the midst of anger, remorse, grief, joy, etc. it's not difficult to imagine that these physical energies and vibrations are stored within us, as well. Disease has often been described as the manifestation of dis-ease.

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yes for sure. how's the weather where you are?
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Thanks, Sylvia. Fine so far. We're under a tropical storm and flooding watch through tomorrow. Nothing happening yet, though. Hopefully, it'll be minimal. Whatever it is, it'll be nothing like it's been ~ or will even be in the Keys and South Florida. I appreciate your asking :) .

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Thanks Sylvia for the briefing. Very interesting. My two pence? I think that emotional intelligence is under estimate in regard of intellectual intelligence and that it makes people out of balance. As our societies are made of us, the consequence are...
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emotional intelligence is under estimate in regard of intellectual intelligence and that it makes people out of balance.
I agree here, too, Tchoc.

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o yes, exactly, when we are too mental, too left-brain, we are too detached from balance as you say ... and if too mental also divorced from nature ...

this is what right use of will teaches ... what has caused me to ask is the symbol on the website of the two entwined hearts ... this is a symbol from the right use of will materials ... and so i searched the site for the books and L.C.'s site links to the books ...

there are eight channeled books and they teach not only how to heal the emotional body and bring balance but they also teach a deeper truth about human history and the missing goddess in the patriarchal religions ...

it is sacred stuff ...

so i was hoping somebody could tell me about the site's connection to it ...

the connection of the poet mystic songwriter who this site celebrates ...

I am astrologer and it appears that the planet of revolution and upheaval, Uranus, is transiting Pisces for 7 years ... we are two years into it ... this is bringing all the water traumas ... it happens about every 84 years when uranus goes through pisces ... L.C. has got his Moon in Pisces so his emotional body is also getting hammered ...

according to right use of will we can actually help to heal the planet by healing our own imbalance ...

god bless ...

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Well... I sort of think I might agree...

I'm... ambivalent. Part of me is very practical and down-to-earth; but part of me sees what you are saying. Sort of. I don't know that I ascribe it to any 'god' thing, though. (I'm an atheist, pure and simple, after giving the matter deep consideration over many years.)

But yes, there is huge energy locked up in people. It is visible in unrestrained anger. Or panic. It is amazing what physical feats even the weakest can perform in panic or anger!
What is harder is to direct the energy deliberately - and I guess that is where the training Sylvia speaks of comes in.
My older daughter has learnt a lot from similar types of things - Four Rhythms dance, for one, but a number of other things as well.

I cut myself off from anything of a 'mystic' nature when I was in my teens. It was the only way I knew to get rid of my terrors - and I've been afraid to go there ever since. I think I could probably have been a Medium or maybe something with ESP. Who knows?

Heh! I'm a Pisces, Sylvia. :)
Only just found this video of LC:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/leonardcohen?ob=4" target="_blank

This one does make me cry.
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So, am I, Fljotsdale 8) ~ I was about to ask Sylvia about the impact on those with Sun in Pisces :wink: . Can't recall now which it is ~ either Rising or Moon ~ but one or the other is in Gemini, the other in Taurus >> begging for the balance vertically, whilst the fish just keep going opposite directions horizontally. :lol: What's a guy to do when Uranus gets in there and mucks up the works :wink: ?

Feel free to not address these questions, Sylvia. We're really not seeking free astrological assessments :wink: . Your interest relates to Leonard's chart and influences. There's another astrologer here ~ John Etherington. You two could have some really insightful discussions.

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this is right up my address. I have been working with this for 10 years now with the CFQ training I recieved with Master Yap Soon-Yeong
http://www.cfq.org.uk/ and Sifu Dr. Chok Hiew.
In his workshops when we work with our energies we move around shake sometimes. My experience is deep stretching. Once when he was doing a group healing, my legs and arms were straight out,I was sitting in a chair, this lasted for 20-25 minutes. I treid to put them down but I could not and there is no way I can hold that position on my own i have tried.
his very simple hexagram movements help to remove trapped energies and helps to create a better flow of chi. As i meditiate the layers of karma from this life and past lives can be removed. BTW I am a Buddhist and study the Shambhala lineage. I know it works very well because of a recent experience. In the past the situation I was in would leave me wallowing in self pity, but it was not there. The integration of concept that we need to accept that all that happend in our lives is perfect and how it should be. This is a sign of growth in the emotional body :D . Neato, don't worry I know I still have work to do. Just when you think you've got it, bang the carpet can be removed from under your feet. Just had a self-esteem crash, but hey I am grateful to have it come to me so strongly because I really need to work on this highly emotional issue.
As the emotional states improve of course you will be able to remove depression.
I remember reading or hearing Leonard saying that he realized the source of his depression was that he was thinking about himself too much. AH HA yes releasing the grasp of self is very important, just covered this past week-end with our Archaya (head teacher).
We are alland all that happens, basically good.
Bugs and Fishes to everyone
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Accepting who you actually are, rather than trying to be what other people expect you to be, is more than half the battle.
Only just found this video of LC:
http://ca.youtube.com/user/leonardcohen?ob=4" target="_blank

This one does make me cry.
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I think that the symbol is inspired from the David star.
You know who he is.

I'm a Pisces too.

Water is the symbol of emotions, and emotional life in the collective uncounscious.

I think that emotions are a kind of glue that keeps us unified as a kind and reliated to others (to others and G_d, 'cause I'm a believer. This said, I am aware that this is a belief, not a proof - but this is all another debate). This is why it could be so yarky sometimes and messy, and at other times, and in the same time so wonderful.

I think also that spirituality, with its part of mystery, is "a tool" to reliate all our intelligences so that they could be leaded by the higher intelligence that we have, with its part of mystery.

I think also that I don't know a lot about all this. 8)

Very interesting though. I'll have a look at those books. :D
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Libras like myself, have a difficult time with reality :shock:
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