Dancer in the dark

peter danielsen · Post by **peter danielsen** » Mon Nov 25, 2002 5:49 pm

"They say it's the last song
they don't know us, it's only
the last song if we let it be."

This film by Von Trier is one of the greatest lovepoems I've met. I recomend anyone to see it. It has somewhat the same potentiel as the work of L.C

Peter

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 1:20 pm

I must say I didn't like it, it was like copy of hius own earlier masterpiece, Breaking The Waves, in which Suzanne is played. I consider that as one of best films ever!!!

jurica · Post by **jurica** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:01 pm

i've also seen Breaking The Waves before Dancer in the Dark, and i agree it has many similarities... both in style and in story. i also agree that Breaking The Waves is better movie, because it's better plotted and floats more easily, BUT i also enjoyed Dancer in the Dark! it is actualy the first musical (including everybodys favorite: The Hair) i've liked. the change of camera (when it pictures harsh reality it is nervous and rough, and when it comes to musical dreams, it becomes steady and technicaly perfect) perfectly implies feelings, and i like antagonisam of American symbols against European (Von Trier has strog pro-European feelings, but is at the same time very critical; remember his earlier movie Europa!).

i think this movie developes some motives from his earlier movies, rather than simply copy them.

but i know i'm ignorant on this subject when compared to you, Tom (for those who don't know that, mr. Sakic is great filmofil and filmologist), so i guess those of you who haven't seen those movies, and don't have an opinion of your own - you should trust Tom until you see them (you SHOULD see both of them!) and decide for your self.

JURICA

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:06 pm

Thanks for the compliment, Jurica, but I am not really so great. I am more filmofil than filmologist (hm, filmology=film studies). Of course, I also enjoyed Dancer In The Dark, but still, Breaking The Waves is regarded as one of best films ever made. That's one of those movies which change my mind and thinking about cinema (maybe because I catched the last ticket in first row, bellow the screen. You who saw it will know what I mean with that:-)
Anyway, I agree everyone who loves cinema as art must see Von Trier's movies.
t.

glyn · Post by **glyn** » Fri Nov 29, 2002 5:26 pm

I watched 15mins or so of Dancer last week and it drove me up the wall. I don't like shaky cameras and Bjork drives me crazy at the best of times. But I respect Tom's opinion so I started again yesterday and am now an hour into the film and I think its great. It won't be my favourite film, but I love the dance/song sequences.

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 3:02 pm

Thanks Glyn,
but did you watch Breaking The Waves?
I will now listen more carefully my copy of Pet Sounds:-) A friend recently bought it, on 1 CD in 2 versions, mono and stereo. It sounded to me like 'Beatles-like boy band meets Phil Spector', I must say, but I will gave it more chance. Still I think the lyner's note are really to much adorable.
Anyway, you must never forgot I'm the child of 1990s' music... Leonard came there as man beyond years and decades, along with Nick Cave and Tom Waits... he's really ocupatting that small area of his particular kind of music, as he once said, whatever that area is,
t.