If I were a soliloquy
If I were a soliloquy
If I were a soliloquy
(if I were a soliloquy, what sort of soliloquy would I be?)
Speak to me now of gentle flowers,
Speak to me now of lovers’ sighs,
Speak to me now, I’ll list for hours..
.. for I no longer want these
(desperate times)
v i o l e t
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
I believe you just might be a soliloquy, violet.
You speak to longings that are there for so many.
~ Lizzy
You speak to longings that are there for so many.
~ Lizzy
"Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken."
~ Oscar Wilde
~ Oscar Wilde
Re: If I were a soliloquy
.. oh hi, Lizzy.. I was just writing this [below] as you were responding..
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
End Note:
I guess I'm having a rather sober feeling afternoon, and yet there is this wondrous furious rustling in the trees all around me.. it's been going on for a whole day now.
.. what was that line.. wisdom having to do with knowing what to overlook.. and yet.. at some point.. are we not overlooking the direness of what is befalling us?
much later edit: see previous post's edit.
I guess I'm having a rather sober feeling afternoon, and yet there is this wondrous furious rustling in the trees all around me.. it's been going on for a whole day now.
.. what was that line.. wisdom having to do with knowing what to overlook.. and yet.. at some point.. are we not overlooking the direness of what is befalling us?
much later edit: see previous post's edit.
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
Well, that was an apt end note and dovetailed well, violet.
"Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken."
~ Oscar Wilde
~ Oscar Wilde
Re: If I were a soliloquy
Dearest Violet
this is so disturbingly close (I don't mean that in a nasty way), and I know that these are your words, and I am certainly not disrespecting that in anyway - but it is so very close to how I feel about things at times - it is like someone came along and scooped out my mind onto a page. In a way I think we are all a soliloquy. The whole world is full of soliloquys - but we are also so massively inter-dependant, making such thoughts some of the hardest to figure.
You have given me goosebumps.
A
x
this is so disturbingly close (I don't mean that in a nasty way), and I know that these are your words, and I am certainly not disrespecting that in anyway - but it is so very close to how I feel about things at times - it is like someone came along and scooped out my mind onto a page. In a way I think we are all a soliloquy. The whole world is full of soliloquys - but we are also so massively inter-dependant, making such thoughts some of the hardest to figure.
You have given me goosebumps.
A
x
Weybridge MBW 11th July 2009
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
Re: If I were a soliloquy
I have a story that I was given when I was six years old. I will try and dig it out to show you.
A
x
A
x
Weybridge MBW 11th July 2009
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
Re: If I were a soliloquy
.. okay.. in the meantime, I thank you, Alsiony and Lizzy.
It seems a lot of us are feeling this way right now. I don't like focusing on these things here too much.. but sometimes you..
.. actually, being drawn to film, I just thought of that horrifying -- hmm.. let me see if I can find the link.. and though this is not "political," it captures still what it is to wake up too late to something.
.. [later]: well, no luck with that.. youtube has its limits at times.. but it's the "devil rape scene" in Rosemary's Baby when she screams:
This is not a dream!
v. x
.. [even later].. okay.. it's not the scene, exactly.. but this trailer does evoke a certain "impending" mood..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otPyEsObI1M
FULL SCREEN..
much later edit: since I've written these posts, I've adjusted how I'm using my famous "double ellipses," so I'm amending things in that respect, as I feel to.
It seems a lot of us are feeling this way right now. I don't like focusing on these things here too much.. but sometimes you..
.. actually, being drawn to film, I just thought of that horrifying -- hmm.. let me see if I can find the link.. and though this is not "political," it captures still what it is to wake up too late to something.
.. [later]: well, no luck with that.. youtube has its limits at times.. but it's the "devil rape scene" in Rosemary's Baby when she screams:
This is not a dream!
v. x
.. [even later].. okay.. it's not the scene, exactly.. but this trailer does evoke a certain "impending" mood..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otPyEsObI1M
FULL SCREEN..
much later edit: since I've written these posts, I've adjusted how I'm using my famous "double ellipses," so I'm amending things in that respect, as I feel to.
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
I have had this little ladybird story book for 27/28 years well I think I was about six years old or I could've been five.
Anyways – through the ups and downs of my childhood I would at different intervals take this book out with a torch under the covers in the middle of the night
This story – simple as it is – has so much in it, and it has meant many different things to me I guess.
A simple children's story – perhaps you could say how silly of me...
hehe
On the face of it, the 'moral' of the tale may seem a sad one – but the story is very beautiful in its simplicity I think.
(I remember being very disturbed for a long time that the King Moth would be alone for ever 
And then, somewhere along the line I put two and two together – in my child way I realised that this story couldn't be true of all moths – because by now I understood, as with all animals including people – a mummy moth and a daddy moth had to get married or else they couldn't have a family (stick with me- we are still thinking through the eyes of a child under ten here ok
) so not all moths could be this way, considering how moths hadn't died out. So I was kinda relieved )
But on from that side of things... the story of the King moth has always stuck with me in a way I guess, like many other things, and can be taken in many different ways, (on a single personal level, or on a much bigger scale) not least as a metaphor for some important parts of life. I guess now I see it as a reminder that humans – people – soliloquies that we all can be collectively or individually looking in the wrong place for what's important in life – or going about it completely the wrong way.
At times just that plain awful wrenching desperate feeling of 'what on Earth is going on with the human race??' Can cause such a deep despair - when trying to figure out those things that just feel horrendously out of place. It feels like too much is missing some basic profound truth – how ever simple the thing itself may be. Too much is shallowness – too much is disposable – too much is fake – too much that we pretend 'matters' to us, even though in our hearts we know that really it doesn't matter at all. The list is long. And these concerns can apply on all levels. Humanity has vastly corrupted itself along the line in many hurting ways, and with such awful consequences. The vast majority of us are included in that to some degree or another. How do you get away from it? How can you really escape it?
If humanity - as a whole, could seriously and consistently recognise the genuine beauty within and without – aswell as those other things that actually do matter in life, then maybe the human race would stop getting so burnt by so many false lights.
Though The King Moth is just a childrens short story at the end of the day – at the top of it all, in the end the tale is about a 'quest for something that really matters' – and in the greater scheme of things where such quests do go on and on – this may be viewed as some kind of precious hope.
A
x
Anyways – through the ups and downs of my childhood I would at different intervals take this book out with a torch under the covers in the middle of the night
This story – simple as it is – has so much in it, and it has meant many different things to me I guess.
A simple children's story – perhaps you could say how silly of me...
heheOn the face of it, the 'moral' of the tale may seem a sad one – but the story is very beautiful in its simplicity I think.
And then, somewhere along the line I put two and two together – in my child way I realised that this story couldn't be true of all moths – because by now I understood, as with all animals including people – a mummy moth and a daddy moth had to get married or else they couldn't have a family (stick with me- we are still thinking through the eyes of a child under ten here ok
) so not all moths could be this way, considering how moths hadn't died out. So I was kinda relieved ) But on from that side of things... the story of the King moth has always stuck with me in a way I guess, like many other things, and can be taken in many different ways, (on a single personal level, or on a much bigger scale) not least as a metaphor for some important parts of life. I guess now I see it as a reminder that humans – people – soliloquies that we all can be collectively or individually looking in the wrong place for what's important in life – or going about it completely the wrong way.
At times just that plain awful wrenching desperate feeling of 'what on Earth is going on with the human race??' Can cause such a deep despair - when trying to figure out those things that just feel horrendously out of place. It feels like too much is missing some basic profound truth – how ever simple the thing itself may be. Too much is shallowness – too much is disposable – too much is fake – too much that we pretend 'matters' to us, even though in our hearts we know that really it doesn't matter at all. The list is long. And these concerns can apply on all levels. Humanity has vastly corrupted itself along the line in many hurting ways, and with such awful consequences. The vast majority of us are included in that to some degree or another. How do you get away from it? How can you really escape it?
If humanity - as a whole, could seriously and consistently recognise the genuine beauty within and without – aswell as those other things that actually do matter in life, then maybe the human race would stop getting so burnt by so many false lights.
Though The King Moth is just a childrens short story at the end of the day – at the top of it all, in the end the tale is about a 'quest for something that really matters' – and in the greater scheme of things where such quests do go on and on – this may be viewed as some kind of precious hope.
A
x
Weybridge MBW 11th July 2009
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
Re: If I were a soliloquy
A., I love old children's books. I'm afraid the text on the book itself is totally blurry on my computer. Still, I think I get the gist of its impression on you.
... in terms of searching for a deeper meaning, or for the things that truly matter.. I suggest we do have a deep store of meaningful literature we can consult so to find so much that's entirely relevant to these "answers" we may seek. And so, I would shift the problem somewhat, as we do have answers.. we do have knowledge.. we do have [a large portion of us at least] souls, and hearts and minds.
.. so.. given we do have answers, what are those forces that keep a wise consensus from occurring? I suggest it is not a legitimate cacophony of differing opinions that prevents such consensus. That's too simple, and removes the darker elements. And in that, deception is in the wings.. and those who succeed in this environment, very often do so for either knowingly perpetrating such deception, or through unwittingly being made its pawn.
.. that's all I'll say on this for now.
v i o l e t xx
.. oh. I find it's good to re-check things sometimes:
wis·dom
n.
1. The ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight.
2. Common sense; good judgment: "It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things" (Henry David Thoreau).
3.
a. The sum of learning through the ages; knowledge: "In those homely sayings was couched the collective wisdom of generations" (Maya Angelou).
b. Wise teachings of the ancient sages.
4. A wise outlook, plan, or course of action.
5. Wisdom Bible Wisdom of Solomon.
[Middle English, from Old English wsdm; see weid- in Indo-European roots.]
[oh.. this is from The Free Dictionary on line]..
... in terms of searching for a deeper meaning, or for the things that truly matter.. I suggest we do have a deep store of meaningful literature we can consult so to find so much that's entirely relevant to these "answers" we may seek. And so, I would shift the problem somewhat, as we do have answers.. we do have knowledge.. we do have [a large portion of us at least] souls, and hearts and minds.
.. so.. given we do have answers, what are those forces that keep a wise consensus from occurring? I suggest it is not a legitimate cacophony of differing opinions that prevents such consensus. That's too simple, and removes the darker elements. And in that, deception is in the wings.. and those who succeed in this environment, very often do so for either knowingly perpetrating such deception, or through unwittingly being made its pawn.
.. that's all I'll say on this for now.
v i o l e t xx
.. oh. I find it's good to re-check things sometimes:
wis·dom
n.
1. The ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight.
2. Common sense; good judgment: "It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things" (Henry David Thoreau).
3.
a. The sum of learning through the ages; knowledge: "In those homely sayings was couched the collective wisdom of generations" (Maya Angelou).
b. Wise teachings of the ancient sages.
4. A wise outlook, plan, or course of action.
5. Wisdom Bible Wisdom of Solomon.
[Middle English, from Old English wsdm; see weid- in Indo-European roots.]
[oh.. this is from The Free Dictionary on line]..
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
V - I agree with you on many counts. Nothing is simple - that is one definate truth. (Are the words still unclear if you click on each picture btw? I can send to you if you really want to read it...)
It is a coincidence that lately I have been studying the question of what 'knowledge' is, and how Greek philosophers determined that true knowledge requires that the person themselves would have actually gone through the process of experiencing something for themselves to have really gained knowledge rather than just information.
I am still learning (as ever!) - and so I haven't got onto wisdom in this context of study yet haha, but I am sure knowledge has something to do with it.
Anyhows - I will shurrup now- as I feel I am taking up too much room on this thread.
BestWishes
A
x
It is a coincidence that lately I have been studying the question of what 'knowledge' is, and how Greek philosophers determined that true knowledge requires that the person themselves would have actually gone through the process of experiencing something for themselves to have really gained knowledge rather than just information.
I am still learning (as ever!) - and so I haven't got onto wisdom in this context of study yet haha, but I am sure knowledge has something to do with it.
Anyhows - I will shurrup now- as I feel I am taking up too much room on this thread.
BestWishes
A
x
Weybridge MBW 11th July 2009
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
'All I know - and you must listen very carefully to this... All I know - is that I know absolutely nothing' - Frank
'Who ever loved that loved not at first sight?' - Christopher Marlowe
Much misunderstood... was the 'Hippie' with a reality fixation...
Re: If I were a soliloquy
.. the relationship of knowledge to wisdom is interesting to think about. I may be saying we seek those whom would seem to possess wisdom. It isn't the same as seeking knowledge.. one may seek and obtain knowledge for oneself, but that doesn't necessarily mean that one has acquired wisdom in so doing.
.. [I'm sure Mat would have a lot to say on this]..
.. so.. I guess I'm tired, need to chill. [seems a "wise" choice]
v. x
much later edit: again, the double ellipses thing.
.. [I'm sure Mat would have a lot to say on this]..
.. so.. I guess I'm tired, need to chill. [seems a "wise" choice]
v. x
much later edit: again, the double ellipses thing.
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
.. well.. I'm going through here tonight.. and.. I don't know..
I've removed this, at least for now.
v.
much later edit: never mind.
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Violet
Re: If I were a soliloquy
i didn't mind hearing it, viViolet wrote:I can only tell you that I love you.. I do this knowing it is selfish of me, and that
you don’t want to hear it..