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I was just wondering as I remember reading somewhere if you get 23 people together at least two people share the same date of birth, mine is the 8th January (me and Elvis) anyone the same.

That makes me a Capricorn as we are meant to be a manic depressive sign I just wondered if there was a surplus of one sign which might be more responsive to Leonard's music or if we are just a mish-mash
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Now those are some astronomical odds, Paula. Considering an average of 30 days a month and 12 months a year, add in some 31s and a 28. Only 23 people? Pete??? Can this be true? Meanwhile, while we listen to Pete's calculator clicking away, I can tell you that my birthday is February 20 [Pisces]. 21 to go......let's see if anyone hits.
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Post by jurica »

lizzy, you are completely right...
there's no need for a calculator:

if you meet a person on the street chances are: 100 : 36 525 that he has the same birthday as you do. as simple as that.

the fact is that i had a strange expirience of sharing my birthday with 5 out of 45 people that read geodesy with me. funny.
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Post by tom.d.stiller »

lizzytysh, jurica -

You are misled by a common error. The probability to meet someone who is born on the same date as you is quite small (1/365, not considering some are born on February 29th). But the situation is different here: The chances that any two people out of 23 are born on the same date (whichever date it is) are 50.7 %. (This sometimes is called "Birthday Paradox".)

More information on this can be found at http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rjh9u/birthday.html

Tom

PS: May 14th (Taurus)
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and as you can see from Tom's link you only need 41 people to have a 90% probability of identical birthdays.
You can't argue with maths :)
happy birthday to forum members who are celebrating today

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Post by Pete »

regarding probabilities:
it is a very high probability that the next person who posts on this thread has more than the average number of arms :)
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Post by tom.d.stiller »

or less, Pete - because "they who have no arms have cleanest hands" (Charlton Heston might say what he wants...) and members of this forum tend to have very clean hands :D

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Post by Paula »

Speaking of arms, I am a mine of useless trivia but if you measure your forearm it should be the same length as your foot. I know everyone is going to try that one and if you injury yourself proving me right I have no insurance so don't even think of trying to sue me. :lol:
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Oh dear! I feel quite lost and lonely. You all have real birthdays to celebrate and enjoy every year. My 5th pair of foster parents told me that I was found wedged underneath the gooseberry bush behind a small thicket. If only I knew someone who was an avid cultivator of thickets, perhaps I could find my real mummy?
Bye the way, my 8th pair of foster parents told me to sod off. It was a hard lesson to learn for a 4 year old, but I don't think it did me too much emotional damage. It would be really nice if I could find my birth mummy. Then I could make up for all of those lost years and find how lovely it would be to have real, live, genuine mummy, who could give me 50 years backdated birthday presents!!!! :twisted:
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Paula, as I told Lizzy a while ago, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
"Bipolar is a roller-coaster ride without a seat belt. One day you're flying with the fireworks; for the next month you're being scraped off the trolley" I said that.
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Be careful Byron, Tysh Darling will berate you you for making light of the plight of those who are fostered.

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I'm not the one who needs to be careful.
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You still don't get it, James.

Using oneself as the butt of a joke [however poor or tasteless it may be] in obviously-fictional fashion, in ways that are not derisive or potentially, emotionally harmful to others, is not at all the same as making others the butt of a joke, in a way that is not intended at all to be fictional and is derisive or potentially, emotionally harmful to others.

Making implications about another person's real and personal life in derisive fashion and in a public forum ~ and making comments in a public forum that scream with implications of lewd-and-lascivious acts against minors, when the Internet is riddled with perpetrators already, and giving the impression that the same is perfectly acceptable here, is not the same.

Your conversations in the chatroom regarding little girls; mocking and ridiculing the input of others; exclaiming your hatred of the French and your being glad that they don't come there or here anymore; the benefits and drawbacks of circumcision ~ and your status in that regard; and your favorite moniker there of "sex_god" ["that my public expects"] is quite enough already. I have seen people object openly to you to some of your conversations there and leave [on-the-spot] because of them. I have heard directly from others who have left there because of them. At least there, the others have a much better opportunity of catching someone who comes in by immediately engaging them in positive conversation, whilst assuring them that "this [your frequent input] is not the norm." The "role" you've taken on appears to be for the benefit of some, unknown group.

Perhaps your "public," your "following" are truly of the younger set who find great humour in this kind of shucking and jiving, this jabbing mentality that makes slagging and slamming great fun, and they are the ones who indulge you in this manner of conversation...and the ones you wish to keep entertained here.

However, we have more than a few adults here who truly enjoy adult, conversational exchange ~ on an adult level ~ and your interjections stand out more as a questionable to highly-questionable annoyance than anything. I'm not going to be extremist and say that there is absolutely no humour in some things that you say. There have been times that I've laughed out loud at some of your entries. Those were times that you actually made a point without insulting someone. I don't recall there having been many. Unfortunately.

I also have engaged in what I considered to be productive conversation with you in the chatroom....and erroneously believed that we had struck a "truce" of sorts. However, your continued behaviour here [permanently etched in the forum's format] says otherwise.

The bottom line is that I know you are capable of more and better. It would be more than nice to see you exercise some of the better parts of your brain for higher purposes. All of the above that I've outlined are sometimes subtle differences, but it takes looking at things differently than you apparently do, to recognize them. I don't even know that I can explain them to you. I would hope that with the explanations I've given, you could understand.

~ Elizabeth
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Post by lizzytysh »

Little better than flip of a coin, eh Tom? Maybe not astronomical, but how many groups of 23 would one have to canvass before coming up with the desired result?
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Post by songster »

I hesitate to post this as I am a new member (although I have lurked here for a couple of months). I wonder if you have actually read much of Leonard Cohen's poetry, Lizzytysh. Pardon me, if I am being presumptious. I discovered Leonard Cohen's music about two years ago and fell in love with it. I liked his songs so much that I went out and bought all of his published poetry. I read all of it.

I no longer whole-heartedly admire him as I did before. Much of his poetry reveals a man who knows a great deal about lust but very little about love. And there are phrases in some of his poems which as you put it "scream with implications of lewd and lascivious acts against minors."
Partisan is wrong to write what he did. But so is Leonard.
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