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Andrew (Darby)
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Post by Andrew (Darby) »

partisan wrote:Darby Dear, you statement presupposes that people have not tried what you suggest many many many times already.
Not necessarily - I think that the thrust of my argument is that not only should it initially be dealt with outside of the public domain, but that it should remain outside it, unless there is very good moral justification for it not to! Even if it is justifiably aired in public (in the forum), it should then be done with respect, tolerance and 'good will'.

These are values that I believe are important for peaceful and harmonious co-existence. :D I would also venture to suggest that, from what I've read and heard from the man himself, Mr Cohen would also espouse these values - though I would not maintain this view dogmatically. However, I would also accept that, just because one is a fan of a particular artist, it doesn't mean that one has to adopt the values of that person. I suppose I'm just indicating my own hopes and desires in this respect. (I will get off my soapbox now!) :wink:

On the prolific posting phenomenon, I find it hard to imagine that one would be ultimately daunted by the frequency of someone's posts in this forum context. After all, it is not like a real life face-to-face group situation or even the chat room situation where others may not get an opportunity if one person dominates. Theoretically, soeone's posting a dozen times should be no impediment to another person posting once - even though there posting may be queued down the list a little way!

As for a suggested resultant limitation on point of view, I would hope that everyone's opinion on any subject could be aired, irrespective of whether there is a dominant or much repeated position. In fact the debate in this thread is a good example of this dynamic. I would never accept that there should only be one view tolerated or limitations placed on the content of any adult discussion (by pressure to conform to one point of view), so as to curtail freedom of expression. :shock:

Cheers,
Andrew (Darby) :)
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Post by Tony »

Just as matter of interest there have been five pages of postings here and not one comment from Lizzy. Is this a record?
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Post by Partisan »

I knew there was a reason i was enjoying this thread.

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Post by George.Wright »

OK Partisan
I take your word that it was not you that used the alais
My world is not in any danger of imploding at the minute
Maybe exploding
You must admit you have been hounding Tysh with a vengence
Why?
What has she done to you?
Why refer to anyone who stands up as a MAS?
You don't know me or the others?
Is being polite to people a crime?
Or do you see us as word nerds?
Some answers please to dispell any doubts as to your motivations.
Georges
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Linda
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Post by Linda »

No word from Lizzytysh? She is starfish that is why. I will bet she is reading this thread and enjoying every minute of it.

This has turned into the Lizzytysh message board and I am tired as hell of coming here and reading all this crap. This board gets much too personal for my taste, and depending on how much time you have it is getting harder and harder to scan through this muddle for something that pertains to the reason I came here in the first place, which is Leonard Cohen. Heaven help me if I run into something I disagree with and feel compelled to reply ending up having to defend myself against the attack of the killer bee's defending their queen. Don't you guys and gals ever disagree with her on anything? What is with this group thing on this board? I don't think anyone on this board is in need of defense by anyone else, let alone Lizzytysh, she is quite capable of cutting someone down all by herself.
Linda
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Post by George Gordon »

Jo,

Why does your sensitivity not extend to Jurica? Just this past Monday you heaped scorn and ridicule over his haples head. Reading through the posts on your profile the only conclusion to be reached is that you are one of the biggest hypocrites on this board.

And speaking of hypocrites --

Witty Owl, you too have had your share of slash and burn. Remember Susanne? You even threatened to leave the board because she posted something with which you did not agree. So much for the "warm and positive" owl.
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Post by Aavalanche »

LOL. Whats wrong Partisan? Strike a sensitive nerve? Met your Nemesis? This really is the pot calling the kettle black. You and poetry cop may find it hard to believe but I actually enjoy reading those low grade poets you so detest. Even the shockers give me a good laugh. So- apologies for the vicious attack on your keyboard sniping. :twisted: There, feel better now. Surely free speech gives me the right to defend these poetic posters?
I do not count any friends here and I could care less what Lizzytish does or doesn't do. My only intention was to attack the attackers!
Have fun with your demented humour Partisan and minions.

Do not dress in those rags for me when you know that you are not sure.
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Post by George Gordon »

Nice to hear from you again... BYRON!
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Post by Jo »

George Gordon rears his head again.......
Do go back to the thread you mentioned and again read (and attempt to understand) not only my second post - but my first observation and Jurica's response to that - and all the subsequent posts.
This is exactly the kind of half-hearted, prejudiced "see what you want and ignore the rest" attitude that I mentioned....and that's OK, is it? If drawing attention to that is hypocritical, then - hey - I'll accept it - I'm a hypocrite.
Jo
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Post by George Gordon »

Jo,

I did as you commanded and re-read the thread where you blasted Jurica. I am delighted to see that I have had the happy effect of getting you to apologize to at least one of the members you have treated so badly.
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Post by witty_owl »

George Gordon, if you care to search the archives of the 'blue' board you may find the furore that developed over a religious discussion. At that time some members took their eye off the ball and engaged playing the man. This may give you some historical perspective on why I withdrew from discussions at that time and why I did not want to tread that road again. Institutionalised religion and the god business is an issue I feel strongly about and I do not resile from that perspective. I now recognise the hazards inherent in such discussions at forums such as this on such a topic; so I try to steer away but I will not back away, if that makes sense.
If Susanne withdrew due to that discussion; I regret that but that was her choice. I would do the same again so I need not fake an apology. Someday she will return just as I did; a little the wiser, as I did. In the meantime read all your own posts as an newcomer. Can you erect the mirror to yourself?
Regards, Witty Owl
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Post by George.Wright »

Who is this George Gordon from Scotland, Greece?
Is he a confused individual?
Why does he write people's names in Big Bold Letters like Byron?
Is he short sighted?
Why does he criticise other peoples spelling?
Is he a schoolmaster?
Why does he pull up individuals on negativity and demand apologies?
Why does he not know his Geography?
Georges
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Post by Linda »

Kush, read through your reply again, I like Zen. Not that I practice it or even understand it but I like to be reminded of the simple things and different way of looking at everything. I like simplicity. I have a box of Zen cards on my office desk and take one out every now and then and read it and put it under the class top of my desk as a reminder. Today it reads.

Those who say they know. Do not know.
Those who say they do not know, also don't know.
Therefore be quiet and let your actions speak for you.
They speak much louder than your words anyway.

My favorite on is this one:

Experience all things with the enthusiasm of a child.
As if you were seeing it for the first time.
This is the Zen mind, always new, always aware, always that of
a beginner.
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Post by Jo »

George Gordon - whoever the hell you may be - can you really be that ignorant as to imagine that YOU could possibly have influenced me in ANYTHING that I posted in another entirely unrelated thread??????
Is there something I'm missing here? Are you under the mistaken impression that you know me? Or is there perhaps something in my choice of words or my means of expression that throws you into a frenzy of antagonism without any apparent reason?

Thank you for assigning to me the dubious prominence of having "treated so badly" at least one member of the forum - do tell - who are these other members that I've "treated so badly".? (apart from your eminent self, of course)

We have an Afrikaans expression that I think fits you well... dom-astrant.

Your turn now Paula
(Sorry - that was uncalled for - but I couldn't resist - must be the general negativity of the forum lately and let's not forget George Gordon's irresistible influence.)
Jo
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Closingtime

Post by Cia »

He He, I am doing something now that I have wanted to do for some pages ago; I am turning down the lights and closing this thread. So you can't come in because I have locked the door too!

Sorry folks, but it is closing time here, go home and come back another day.

Hugs from Cia
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