Dear Tom......it was well-meant. I have found innumerable gems in Lyzzytysh's posts. But i think across most cultures it may be considered mildly impolite to talk more than your company.
Ok.....that is my last post on this thread.
Does Lizzytish have a JOB?
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Andrew (Darby)
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I think that personal attacks in a such a forum as this are rarely (if ever) warranted and usually result in nothing but ill feeling, futile argumentation, vindictiveness etc etc. (I know that some people enjoy a good fight, but I can't relate to that in this context and would hope that the spirit of this forum would counteract such an attitude.) 
If folk have an issue with someone (in this case, Lizzytysh) it should be taken up directly and discreetly (email, PM) with the person, unless it is a mutually agreed upon public debate or it is absolutely essential for the common good that someone be confronted in this way. I think this latter situation would only occur in exceptional (morally justifiable) circumstances.
As for me, I've no issues with Lizzytysh's 'modus operandi' in this forum - if I did have, I would hope to address it with her as I've suggested.
Cheers
Andrew (Darby)
If folk have an issue with someone (in this case, Lizzytysh) it should be taken up directly and discreetly (email, PM) with the person, unless it is a mutually agreed upon public debate or it is absolutely essential for the common good that someone be confronted in this way. I think this latter situation would only occur in exceptional (morally justifiable) circumstances.
As for me, I've no issues with Lizzytysh's 'modus operandi' in this forum - if I did have, I would hope to address it with her as I've suggested.
Cheers
Andrew (Darby)
Darby Dear, you statement presupposes that people have not tried what you suggest many many many times already. Many of the wonderful people you met on Hydra do not bother here any more because of someone's obsessive compulsive behaviour. I am glad you enjoy this board having a very narrow point of view, i think it would be better if people tried to keep their posts under control and allowed a more diverse panorama to emerge. Cutting back from 10 posts per day to 5 posts per day is not under control. It is a sickness.
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I do agree with Partisan the board has a very narrow view point.
I also agree with Kush I think his suggestion is totally valid. Unfortunately if someone is constantly posting it does tend to kill the topic stone dead as only one view is heard.
I think the fact that anytime someone makes a comment on this he or she is berated straightaway as being out of alinement with the majority but I think the majority are not posting and the minority are.
I think some thought ought to be given to the majority who at present are silent and some thought ought to be given to the minority who are omipresent and not silent.
Let the majority have their say without other posters telling them that they are being unfair in their comments. I for one don't think they are being unfair.
I also agree with Kush I think his suggestion is totally valid. Unfortunately if someone is constantly posting it does tend to kill the topic stone dead as only one view is heard.
I think the fact that anytime someone makes a comment on this he or she is berated straightaway as being out of alinement with the majority but I think the majority are not posting and the minority are.
I think some thought ought to be given to the majority who at present are silent and some thought ought to be given to the minority who are omipresent and not silent.
Let the majority have their say without other posters telling them that they are being unfair in their comments. I for one don't think they are being unfair.
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tom.d.stiller
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Paula -
If you agree with partisan that "this board has a very narrow point of view" - why don't you start encouraging those who rarely or never post to come out of their silence instead of supporting his attempts to narrow the "point of view" of this board even more by trying to silence both regular contributors and newcomers?
Kush's suggestion is well-meant, but misses the essential point. If all posters tried not to post more than others there'd be no posts at all. Regular and frequent posters like you, Paula, like Kush and Lizzytysh are the backbone of this forum, and everyone should feel invited to contribute to the discussions. Not those who submit many posts should reduce their activity, the others should contribute more.
Please don't refer to a "silent majority" which is on your side, lest you'd be the only person who does so. Those you criticize for doing so to my knowledge never did. (I admit I might be mistaken here.)
I won't argue about you feeling something is fair or not; it is your right to have your own view on this. But if someone would start saying things about you like "I hope Paula does not deal with people because then we'd be seeing a rising number of suicides in her area" - I'm not sure if you continued saying: "I for one don't think they are being unfair." (I'd certainly speak up against someone saying things like that about any member of this forum. And my reaction on the post that started this thread would have been exactly the same, if the - incorrectly spelled - name "lizzytish" had been replaced by "Paula" or "partisan"...)
A final remark: All this is not intended to be any kind of attack on you. You, like everyone else, have a right to speak your mind, and to criticize what others post and say. So please feel free to respond to me in any way you feel is compatible with human dignity. I trust that you won't fall prey to the starfish's nastiness.
Tom
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partisan, Kush, Elizabeth (in the order of your appearance in this post) -
I have to apologize: The fact that I responded to Paula forced me to refer to you in the 3rd person. I hope you know that I'd rather talk to you than about you.
Tom
If you agree with partisan that "this board has a very narrow point of view" - why don't you start encouraging those who rarely or never post to come out of their silence instead of supporting his attempts to narrow the "point of view" of this board even more by trying to silence both regular contributors and newcomers?
Kush's suggestion is well-meant, but misses the essential point. If all posters tried not to post more than others there'd be no posts at all. Regular and frequent posters like you, Paula, like Kush and Lizzytysh are the backbone of this forum, and everyone should feel invited to contribute to the discussions. Not those who submit many posts should reduce their activity, the others should contribute more.
Please don't refer to a "silent majority" which is on your side, lest you'd be the only person who does so. Those you criticize for doing so to my knowledge never did. (I admit I might be mistaken here.)
I won't argue about you feeling something is fair or not; it is your right to have your own view on this. But if someone would start saying things about you like "I hope Paula does not deal with people because then we'd be seeing a rising number of suicides in her area" - I'm not sure if you continued saying: "I for one don't think they are being unfair." (I'd certainly speak up against someone saying things like that about any member of this forum. And my reaction on the post that started this thread would have been exactly the same, if the - incorrectly spelled - name "lizzytish" had been replaced by "Paula" or "partisan"...)
A final remark: All this is not intended to be any kind of attack on you. You, like everyone else, have a right to speak your mind, and to criticize what others post and say. So please feel free to respond to me in any way you feel is compatible with human dignity. I trust that you won't fall prey to the starfish's nastiness.
Tom
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partisan, Kush, Elizabeth (in the order of your appearance in this post) -
I have to apologize: The fact that I responded to Paula forced me to refer to you in the 3rd person. I hope you know that I'd rather talk to you than about you.
Tom
Ok...i try not to come back here but once you dip into this sort of thing.....If all posters tried not to post more than others there'd be no posts at all.
Tom..it was not to be taken literally.....it is simply a judgment call - to not be the loudest voice in the room by far and for so long (about X4 louder). I don't know how else to explain....
My original suggestion was simply a deal between two people...while the individuality of both can be appreciated just turning down the volume a little bit on both sides might help.
If you go over so far to one viewpoint you may fail see to see the other's.
p.s. And i don't literally mean "louder".....
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Hi Tom - I think the point I am trying to make is the majority who are silent are silent for a reason.
I am not trying to assume other people's reasons for not posting but if I read the posts correctly I think one of the problems is that if someone who rarely posts (and I am not including Starfish in this - I think his attack was totally unwarrented). Does decided to post and makes a comment about the reason they post infrequently as soon as they state a reason a rash of comments come from the frequent posters telling them they are being negative when all they are doing is letting us know why they don't post very often.
What is so wrong about making negative comments if it is for the greater good of the forum.
No where in my post did I refer to a silent majority that was on my side. I do not consider myself part of the silent majority as you rightly point out I am a regular poster. Altho sometimes I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness.
I made a concerted effort not to mention Lizzie as I have a great affection for her now even though we have had a checkered past so don't lump me in with an attack on her. I was not attacking her or anyone else. I would be delighted if other people did post more but if they get a backlash every time they do post then who can blame them for not getting involved. I have no problems with either you Tom or your comments if we were face to face I would just take this in the manner it was meant as a discussion.
I am not trying to assume other people's reasons for not posting but if I read the posts correctly I think one of the problems is that if someone who rarely posts (and I am not including Starfish in this - I think his attack was totally unwarrented). Does decided to post and makes a comment about the reason they post infrequently as soon as they state a reason a rash of comments come from the frequent posters telling them they are being negative when all they are doing is letting us know why they don't post very often.
What is so wrong about making negative comments if it is for the greater good of the forum.
No where in my post did I refer to a silent majority that was on my side. I do not consider myself part of the silent majority as you rightly point out I am a regular poster. Altho sometimes I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness.
I made a concerted effort not to mention Lizzie as I have a great affection for her now even though we have had a checkered past so don't lump me in with an attack on her. I was not attacking her or anyone else. I would be delighted if other people did post more but if they get a backlash every time they do post then who can blame them for not getting involved. I have no problems with either you Tom or your comments if we were face to face I would just take this in the manner it was meant as a discussion.
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George.Wright
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I find these arguments about postings incredible.
The whole point of a Forum is to POST.
If one posts more than others.................so be it.
We are all here to post and share our experiences in LC and debate other subjects, some are shy and others not. Some are critical and just post to crucify. Others speak with their heart.
Starfish was a fabrication of Partisan.
Partisan hides behind masks and ridicules.
If this is where he gets his kicks..............so be it.
Please encourage others to post and get this Board buzzing.
Georges
The whole point of a Forum is to POST.
If one posts more than others.................so be it.
We are all here to post and share our experiences in LC and debate other subjects, some are shy and others not. Some are critical and just post to crucify. Others speak with their heart.
Starfish was a fabrication of Partisan.
Partisan hides behind masks and ridicules.
If this is where he gets his kicks..............so be it.
Please encourage others to post and get this Board buzzing.
Georges
I am a right bad ass, dankish prince and I love my Violet to bits.
I know it is necessary to your theory that everyone who expresses frustration at Tysh must be me, but it is not true. All IP's will be logged on a forum like this.
As for getting others to post i will misquote that awful Kevin Costner movie Field of Dreams
(who can't quite understand what is so refreshing about this thread....)
As for getting others to post i will misquote that awful Kevin Costner movie Field of Dreams
p.If you gag her they will come.......
(who can't quite understand what is so refreshing about this thread....)
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George.Wright
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Linda, i think it's time to send in the clowns rather than the troops, seriously i think it's time people examined themselves as to their motivations for highlighting anothers documented over exuberance. I think it's jealousy or insecurity....................
ps there's a conspiricy theory about everything............even the fall of man.
Georges
ps there's a conspiricy theory about everything............even the fall of man.
Georges
I am a right bad ass, dankish prince and I love my Violet to bits.
I also entertained the thought that Starfish might be Lizzytysh. But I don't think she is that diabolical. However that does not mean she has not posted under some other alias. On second thought I wondered if it was George. After all, starfish and lizzytysh rhyme. Sort-of.
In fact I think we should all 'fess-up. Everyone should come clean! A new thread could be started and everyone reveal how many people they are. A prize could be given to the member with the most personalities!
In fact I think we should all 'fess-up. Everyone should come clean! A new thread could be started and everyone reveal how many people they are. A prize could be given to the member with the most personalities!
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George.Wright
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Georges only has a few personalities..............and they are legion.
Don't shroud me in your conspiricy crap please
I still maintain it was a sub-division of Partisan............
to start his wasted campains against Tysh again.
He has little to do but attack people he views as a threat!!!!
Georges
Don't shroud me in your conspiricy crap please
I still maintain it was a sub-division of Partisan............
to start his wasted campains against Tysh again.
He has little to do but attack people he views as a threat!!!!
Georges
I am a right bad ass, dankish prince and I love my Violet to bits.
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tom.d.stiller
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It's too late, Georges - we're caught! We can as well confess... I know you really are Jarkko and Byron and Aavalanche. PoetryCop in reality is Witty Owl. And I am neither Lizzytysh's sycophant nor the illiterate version "syncopant" (I ain't no pant!), but I am Lizzytysh myself.
Unfortunately, dear Linda, since I am Lizzytysh, I should know, if I were starfish as well. Unfortunately I'm neither a fish nor a star, so the question who mistreated the eyes and ears of all those who still have some human dignity left, still has to be considered as open. Maybe when you really concentrate you might be enlightened and come out with another suggestion that's closer to the truth.
Usually reliable sources tell me that partisan doesn't really post anymore. Having been driven away from this forum long ago by us conspirators, the last words reported from the real partisan were "This is the Decline of the Empire" and "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse". Then a lady by the name of starfish danced him to the end of laughs...
His user name now is used collectively by David, Witty Owl, you and me.
Tom (or whoever)
PS: I forgot to say that Bob Dylan obviously is George W. Bush, as Jacques Chirac posts to the forum under the name of margaret, and Leonard is the reincarnation of Paul Revere's horse, and Jo is the great-great-great-grand-daughter of Rembrandt and Geoffrey Chaucer, and midnight is noon.
Unfortunately, dear Linda, since I am Lizzytysh, I should know, if I were starfish as well. Unfortunately I'm neither a fish nor a star, so the question who mistreated the eyes and ears of all those who still have some human dignity left, still has to be considered as open. Maybe when you really concentrate you might be enlightened and come out with another suggestion that's closer to the truth.
Usually reliable sources tell me that partisan doesn't really post anymore. Having been driven away from this forum long ago by us conspirators, the last words reported from the real partisan were "This is the Decline of the Empire" and "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse". Then a lady by the name of starfish danced him to the end of laughs...
His user name now is used collectively by David, Witty Owl, you and me.
Tom (or whoever)
PS: I forgot to say that Bob Dylan obviously is George W. Bush, as Jacques Chirac posts to the forum under the name of margaret, and Leonard is the reincarnation of Paul Revere's horse, and Jo is the great-great-great-grand-daughter of Rembrandt and Geoffrey Chaucer, and midnight is noon.