Glass in Cardiff

[opendoor]

Although I am not familiar with Mr. Glass and his music, I think there is an overwhelming tendency for the majority of the forum members to canonize everything associated with Leonard. I love nearly everything that Leonard does. Unfortunately, it seems that Mr. Glass's BoL will be bookended with Lewis Furey's Night Magic as CD's where the words of Leonard trump the music of others.

opendoor

[Red Poppy]

Did you know Glass once worked (in his youth) as a circus tumbler.
Says that's what inspired his work.

[Paula]

Can't say I am looking forward to the actual concert doesn't sound like my cup of tea at all but I am looking forward to the meet up and the conversation. I might follow Ken out

[liverpoolken]

A Dylan friend of mine who besides attending the concert on Saturday is also attending the Patti Smith/Philip Glass concert in St. Lukes tonight which is billed as:-

'Minimalist composer Philip Glass and punk-poet Smith team up for this evening of piano and poetry inspired by beat poet Allen Ginsberg.'

Ever had the feeling you may have bought a ticket for the wrong Philip Glass concert?

After reading the reviews of the Glass BoL concert he has just decided that after the conversation he is heading straight over to the Shepherds Bush Empire to see Patti Smith again. He has just emailed to tell me that there still some level 1 tickets available.

So now we have 3 options.

The Glass concert, or find a nice little pub and settle down to watch England get hammered in the Rugby World Cup, or nip over to Shepherds Bush to see Patti.


Ta Ken

[Red Poppy]

Ever had the feeling you may have bought a ticket for the wrong Philip Glass concert?

Should that not read:
Ever had the feeling you may have bought a ticket for the Philip Glass concert?

[linda_lakeside]

I don't know...frankly, I rather like Liverpoolken's version. I haven't read an awful lot of Philip Glass and Leonard, but some of it was not as favourable as I would have liked. So, perhaps, just perhaps, it's written as it should be. However, that's just one person's opinion (mine), and I know very little of what's going on with Glass. Having been here so infrequently as of late, I've missed much. Hopefully, between all my other little projects, I can also catch up on the forum news.

[purpletrousers]

Does anybody know if it’s going to be possible after the conversation for me to pass on my ticket to someone else outside the venue who wants to attend the concert so I can go and watch the rugby.

hmm am thinking similar things (hello btw) I'm probably not going to make it to the gathering i'm afraid, but hope the conversation is what we all hope for.
I too am tempted to slip off for the rugby final, i think it might just make me a bit frustrated making the effort to enjoy something if part of me would rather be elsewhere (I'd dit out pretty much anything normally but..)

i was maybe thinking of slipping off the ffor the second half of my beloved villa beating man U for the first time in years between chat & gig, maybe i better work out the nearest pub. it's a pain but on the weekend loads of stuff is shut round there, it's very old uni stomping ground for me...

Anyway Paula and Chris (who is currently packing - in N.Ireland i think?) have my mobile if people need pub tips...

Jim

[lizzytysh]

by Red Poppy on Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:09 am

Did you know Glass once worked (in his youth) as a circus tumbler.
Says that's what inspired his work.
Did you know Glass once worked (in his youth) as a circus tumbler.
Says that's what inspired his work.

Do you think he may have been [or you are, though presented seriously?] joking? I'm reading various things about him now, and this one mentions a lot of what could be considered inspiration, but the circus tumbler isn't amongst them. [I get it now, RP, since you've explained below it was a pun... and, as Linda said, as puns go, a pretty good one at that ]. I was glad to see the "chamber" music reference in the below, since that's what I equated this performance to.

http://www.chesternovello.com/default.a ... d_2905=540

Philip Glass

© Jim BallBorn: 1937

Born in Baltimore on January 31, 1937, Philip Glass discovered music in his father's radio repair shop. In addition to servicing radios, Ben Glass carried a line of records and, when certain ones sold poorly, he would take them home and play them for his three children, trying to discover why they didn't appeal to customers. These happened to be recordings of the great chamber works, and the future composer rapidly became familiar with Beethoven quartets, Schubert sonatas, Shostakovich symphonies and other music then considered 'offbeat.' It was not until he was in his upper teens did Glass begin to encounter more 'standard' classics.


Glass began the violin at six and became serious about music when he took up the flute at eight. But by the time he was 15, he had become frustrated with the limited flute repertoire as well as with musical life in post-war Baltimore. During his second year in high school, he applied for admission to the University of Chicago, passed and, with his parents' encouragement, moved to Chicago where he supported himself with part-time jobs waiting tables and loading airplanes at airports. He majored in mathematics and philosophy, and in off hours practiced piano and concentrated on such composers as Ives and Webern.



At 19, Glass graduated from the University of Chicago and moved to New York City to attend the Juilliard School. During this time, he abandoned the 12-tone techniques he used in Chicago and explored the works of American composers like Aaron Copland and William Schuman. Eventually Glass would study with Vincent Persichetti, Darius Milhaud and William Bergsma. Rejecting serialism, Glass gravitated to such maverick composers as Harry Partch, Ives, Moondog, Henry Cowell and Virgil Thomson, but still had not found his own voice. In 1960, he moved to Paris and spent two years of intensive study under Nadia Boulanger. It was in Paris that filmmaker Conrad Roods hired Glass to transcribe ragas by Ravi Shankar's into western notation. During this process, Glass discovered the techniques of Indian music. After researching music in North Africa, India and the Himalayas, he returned to New York and applied these techniques to his own work.



By 1974, Glass had composed a large collection of new music for his performing group, The Philip Glass Ensemble, and music for the Mabou Mines Theater Company, co-founded by Glass. This period culminated in Music in 12 Parts (1974), a three-hour summation of Glass' new music, followed by the landmark opera, Einstein on the Beach (1976), a five-hour epic created with Robert Wilson that is now seen as a landmark in 20th century music-theater. This work, the first in Glass's 'portrait' trilogy, was followed by Satyagraha, created for the Netherlands Opera in 1980, and Akhnaten, for the Stuttgart Opera in 1984. Over the years, Glass and Wilson worked on several other projects including Civil Wars (Rome) (1984), the fifth act of a multi-composer epic written for the 1984 Olympics; White Raven (1991), an opera commissioned by Portugal to celebrate its history of discovery and premiering at EXPO '98 in Lisbon and in 2001 at the Lincoln Center Festival, and Monsters of Grace (1998), a digital 3-D opera.



Beyond these landmark works, Glass' repertoire spans the genres of opera, orchestra, chamber ensemble, dance, theater, and film and includes collaborations with a variety of distinctive contemporary artists. His operas include The Making of the Representative for Planet 8 (1986) and Marriages Between Zones Three, Four and Five (1997) with librettos written by Doris Lessing based on her novels; Hydrogen Jukebox (1990) with a libretto by Allen Ginsberg based on his poetry; The Voyage (1992), based on the explorations of Christopher Columbus with a libretto written by David Henry Hwang; The Fall of the House of Usher (1988), based on the Edgar Allen Poe short story with a libretto by Arthur Yorinks; and In the Penal Colony (2000), a musical theater work based on the short story by Franz Kafka with a libretto by Rudolf Wurlitzer. Glass' most recent opera collaborations include Galileo Galilei (2002) with Mary Zimmerman and The Sound of a Voice (2003) with David Henry Hwang.



No less varied are Glass' orchestral works. There are large-scale works for chorus and orchestra such as Itaipu (1989) and Symphony No. 5 (1999), a symphonic chorus based on texts from wisdom traditions throughout the world, Symphony No. 2 (1996), commissioned by the Brooklyn Philharmonic Orchestra, Symphony No. 3 (1996), Symphony No. 6 (Plutonian Ode) (2001), with text by Allen Ginsberg, and 'Low' and 'Heroes' Symphonies (1992, 1997), both based on the music of David Bowie and Brian Eno. Glass also produced a five string quartets as well as concertos for violin and orchestra, saxophone quartet and orchestra, two timpanists and orchestra, and harpsichord and orchestra. His Tirol Concerto for Piano and Orchestra (2000) premiered at the Klanspuren Festival in Tirol, Austria, and his Concerto for Cello and Orchestra (2001), commissioned for Julian Lloyd Webber's 50th Birthday, premiered at the Beijing Festival.



Beyond the genres of opera, orchestra, and film scores, Glass also has a number unclassifiable dance, theater, and recording works. Dance hybrids include In the Upper Room (1986), choreographed by Twyla Tharp, and A Descent into the Maelstrom (1986). Theater hybrids include The Photographer (1983), The Mysteries and What's so Funny? (1990) and 1000 Airplanes on the Roof (1988) with a libretto by David Henry Hwang and designs by Jerome Sirlin. Glass has also created a trilogy of musical theater pieces based on the films of Jean Cocteau: Orphée (1993), La Belle et La Bête (1994) and Les Enfants Terribles (1996). His hybrid recording projects include Passages (1991) with Ravi Shankar and Songs from Liquid Days (1986) with lyrics by David Byrne, Paul Simon, Laurie Anderson, and Suzanne Vega.



In 2003, Glass premiered the opera The Sound of a Voice with David Henry Hwang, created the score to Errol Morris' Academy Award winning documentary The Fog of War, and released the CD Études for Piano Vol. I, No. 1-10 on the Orange Mountain Music label. Orion premiered in 2004, a collaboration between Glass and six other international artists opening in Athens as part of the cultural celebration of the 2004 Olympics in Greece. Glass also premiered his Piano Concerto No. 2 (After Lewis and Clark) with the Omaha Symphony Orchestra. Premieres for 2005 include his Symphony No. 7 with the National Symphony Orchestra and the opera Waiting for the Barbarians, based on the book by John Coetzee.

Glass continues to regularly tour with Philip on Film, performing live with his ensemble to a series of new short films as well as classics like Koyaanisqatsi, Powaqqatsi, La Belle et La Bête, and Dracula.

August 2005

***********************************

Thank goodness some of our Welsh friends have spoken up and given us all an honest fan's perspective on the concert instead of all the beating around the bush that we have been having up to now. First the doodles and now this little lot. Hey ho.

This is very good news for me, Ken. I was beginning to feel more than a bit ruthless and unrelenting. It's a relief to find that it seemed I was beating around the bush [vs. "more than a bit ruthless and unrelenting"], and not such a relief that it didn't seem I was being honest. That's because I really was trying to make allowances for some [such as Rob's wife, whom I've teased] actually liking his performance. Different levels of knowledge and understanding of types of music that I'm pretty much totally unfamiliar with... and the structural aspects of it, with the sudden, unexpected departures from it, which I've read is another thing for which Glass is known. My friend who attended with me liked the performance, too. Glass definitely had some voracious defenders on the site where Joshua's review is posted, too. So, on all of that... go figure.

I know that many haven't understood Thelonious Monk; yet, Joni Mitchell [generally speaking accepted as a genius of modern song] chose to collaborate with him. Someone here, with whom I discussed a bit of the Glass performance in PMs, who also went to see it... noted something I had certainly missed [but from my vantage point, there was no difficulty in doing that ]... ". . . it was the cellist; bare shoulders, repetitive phrases increasing in intensity, with a Leonard drawing of a nude woman in a masturbatory-like pose on the screen."

When I read something like that, I also wonder about what I was reading last night [amongst other reviews of his work], about his replication of human bio-rhythms in his work. Never would have considered that... some apparently do, though, and notice it. I can't locate the paragraph by a woman reviewer, whose training and credentials are heavily in the classical realm, but her comments were positive toward Glass's work. So, even though I don't like what I've heard, some really do... and, it seems, there may be something that he's done that I actually would.


On an altogether different note, I like the way Joshua's opening paragraph in his San Francisco Chronicle review of 'Appomattox' describes the point that I didn't know how to make this well, but still tried... during the Hurricane Katrina debacle aftermath of extreme disagreement here regarding the racial climate in the U.S.

Nearly a century and a half after its conclusion and long after anyone who witnessed it is gone, the Civil War remains the defining event of American history. It's the wound that refuses to heal, the festering outgrowth of the racial crimes encoded in the nation's DNA.

... and, then, Glass's perspective, as related by Cy Musiker of NPR:

Opera as Autobiography

Glass embraces the idea that an artist's work is always autobiographical. He grew up in Baltimore, a segregated city, so Appomattox, he says, is also about race and its role in current events.

"In fact, the war never ended," Glass says. "We're talking about a conflict of culture, a conflict of history, and it was not going to be signed away in one afternoon."

Toward its end, the opera jumps forward through time, from the peace Lee and Grant forged at Appomattox Courthouse to the civil-rights struggles of the 1960s.

Anyway, I was intentionally trying not to trash him, and your comments, about all that had preceded what finally brought you some satisfaction, have confirmed that I did okay with my attempts... even if it didn't come across as honest, it was.


~ Lizzy

[Red Poppy]

No, don't mind me Lizzy, just a pun!

[linda_lakeside]

A pun maybe, but a clever pun. I've been sitting here thinking about wine glasses, or maybe whine glass, and all manner of similar items, but I can't even come up with an appropriate pun. Maybe it should be the topic of some kind of poetry comp.

[lizzytysh]

I get it now, RP [edited my posting to note that ].

The Glass-'Ginsberg'-Smith performance should have been interesting... I hope to hear here on that. Hear! Hear! Here! Here!

As for me, I'm willing to concede that there are many works that Glass has created with which I'm unfamiliar... in fact, all of them, save Book of Longing. Pretty tough to fairly judge a person's entire career based on one thing you couldn't relate to... so far as the "pretentious" allegation goes, I'll definitely withhold judgement on that. Reading the overview of his work [two-and-a-half years having passed since then, with more projects added], my sense is that it's also pretty tough to have convinced so many to have engaged in one way or other, for so many years of productivity, if you've nothing to offer beyond pretentiousness. I'm willing to concede that there's a lot I don't know about this man's role in the world of music and that I don't know enough to judge.

Whether someone goes to see BoL or watches rugby or remains in a bar and drinks; or whether they enjoy the performance today... I can trust that they'll enjoy the Conversation and each other's company before and aft... and those alone are worth the trip to London . Enjoy wherever at whatever level you're able !!


~ Lizzy

[linda_lakeside]

A right clever one, that RP, isn't he? It wasn't until I came back the second time did I 'get' his reference to "have you ever got the feeling that you've bought a ticket to a Glass concert" - something like that - which I missed completely not having any real knowledge of Glass himself. Yes. I'd say Rugby, being what it is over yon pond, would likely be the star of the day, with a bit of pubbing thrown in. Although I'm sure the 'conversation' everyone talks about, could be nothing short of ... well, 'better' than the concert.

When I said, quite sincerely, that "I've missed much", I was more accurate than I knew at the time. Still, I did slog through all the info you came up with Lizzy, and well, it doesn't sound like my bag - 'new music' not really being my thing. But, I can't judge having never actually experienced one of those spectacles.

[Vineland]

I attended the Philip Glass/Patti Smith concert at St Luke's Church on Friday night. As I was standing outside chatting, Leonard Cohen walked past me and into the hall, though I didn't see where he was sitting during the show. The event was billed as "Philip Glass and Patti Smith: The Poet Speaks", and was a tribute to the poetry of Allen Ginsberg.

Philip Glass played piano whilst Patti read poems. Glass also played three solo pieces, and Lenny Kaye accompanied Patti on three of her own songs. All three artists performed together for the encore. The pieces performed were:

Notes for the Future (PS PG)
Wichita Vortex Sutra (PS PG)
The Blue Thangka (PS PG)
Light on the Balcony (PG)
Etudes 2 & 10 (PG)
Beneath the Southern Cross (PS LK)
My Blakean Year (PS LK)
Ghost Dance (PS LK)
On Cremation of Chögyam Trungpa, Vidyadhara (PS PG)
Magic Psalm (PS PG)
(encore)
Spell [Footnote to Howl] (PS PG LK)

You can download a PDF version of the Philip Glass programme here: http://tinyurl.com/2s6fyt

There is a review in The Guardian today (http://music.guardian.co.uk/live/story/ ... 34,00.html).

Kind regards


Andrew

[lizzytysh]

Thanks for letting us know how that concert went, Andrew ... well, actually, how did it go? Did you like it? Were you already familiar with Ginsberg's poetry, or did you attend because of Glass or Patti? Or, all three? Did you feel it all worked well together?

It's great to see Leonard's loyalty manifested there, as well ... however, he has a natural interest in at least Ginsberg, if not Patti from the old days and Philip from the new.


~ Lizzy

[linda_lakeside]

Sounds great. Esp. the Leonard part (I like Patti as well). There was some skepticism (from me mainly), on how this would turn out - and it seems that, true to form, life will often just come up and poke you in the eye. Oh well. I'm a ways off the beaten path of Cardiff, anyway. - glad it went well.