The socalled devils music.

[lizzytysh]

. . . especially when the girls go "Jazz Police, I hear you calling.."

That's a highlight for me, too... the contrast of their high, flowing, and melodic voices with Leonard's gruffy one in this song.


~ Lizzy

[KjeXXXer]

Yes, but the bass and drums! THE BASS AND DRUMS, I TELL YOU!

[lizzytysh]

My comment was not meant to preclude yours, but rather add to it. I hear and remember voices more easily than I do particular instruments; unless it's the oud, solo piano, or jews harp, of course .

[KjeXXXer]

I know, I just felt the urge to shout a bit.

[lizzytysh]

I just felt the urge to shout a bit.

Oh, okay then... this I understand . Now that you mention it, it was more of a reiteration of your original enthusiasm than anything else .

[julia]

Thanks, Lizzy for the comment on my avatar. It touched me the moment I found it... and it's reportedly from 1969, my birth year... so found it to be an appropriate choice.

And, while I appreciate the dialog on Jazz Police, and find it amusing. You'll never win me over. To spare you, I won't go into a lengthy description of why I seriously can't abide it. At first, I thought you were all just kidding me... but now I realize some people really do like it. In fact, I think Henning, too, once told me he likes the song.

And, Axel... the girls singing "Jazz Police I hear you callllllling" is one of the parts I dislike the most. But, I find it wonderfully gratifying that we can disagree on certain songs and still hang together in the love of a favorite artist.

Peace,
Julia

[Teratogen]

KjeXXXer, just thought I'd bring to your attention that your incessant clamoring for the drum and bass in "Jazz Police" is, well, jazz. Same goes for the deep bassline throughout the piano solo. Very jazz. Perhaps you might find yourself liking other jazz music as well. While I have yet to fully discover that realm of music myself, I'm most positive there is someone here who could direct you towards some real awesome stuff. Before rock there was jazz. And when there was rock there was crazy free jazz. I dare you to listen.

And about the femal backup chorus... gotta admit, not a big fan of it. It's too contrasting to the song in its entirety. While I'd never turn the song off or skip over it for that reason I do think that's what weighs it down. However, the structure and note progression with those vocals is also very key to the jazz theme, albeit, it doesn't work as a pop song.

[KjeXXXer]

Who gives an f-word if it works as pop? Pop is the spawn of Satan and should be utterly destroyed, apart from Leonard Coh... Ok, I see your point.

As Far as Jazz. Yeah, I see the resemblance with jazz. I recently spent nine glorious months of my life at a certain type of school that I cannot be arsed with explaining to you, simply because I'm not quite sure HOW.
Anyways, each morning we had a morning meeting to count heads and recieve messages. On Tuesdays, there was this thing called the Tuesday Forum, where the teachers spoke about a subject close to their heart.

The guy who taught the Rock & Metal class was (in addition to being a Metalhead) a Jazzhead, and he spent the Tuesdays assigned to him teaching us the History of Jazz, playing lots of jazz tunes to us, including a twenty minute sample of freejazz.
People were outraged. I kinda dug it.

[Teratogen]

It's just like those rockers and metalheads to misunderstand jazz. Especially free jazz. Hahaha. I wonder if any of them were Frank Zappa fans. Glad that you could latch on to it though.

[KjeXXXer]

It's not like it was just the metalheads that were outraged and the Poetry class that dug it. It was mixed across of all those camps of people.
I didn't get too attached to it, but it didn't make my stomach turn or anything.

[Teratogen]

I complain about the lack of structure in most of the recent metal music. BUT... at least with free jazz it is meant to be that way. With this muddy metal music it is not so. There is different purpose. I probably couldn't dig it myself. I can listen to free jazz, as you say, without having my stomach churn. It doesn't bother me. But I can't groove with it. But who knows, maybe I could after listening to it more. I felt the same about The Velvet Underground upon first listen and same with Frank Zappa upon first listen. Now I am fans of both.

[Manna]

I feel that way about a lot of music - have to get used to it a bit before I can decide if I like it or not. And if I hear something and immediately like it, I find that it falls out of my favor just as easily - like the second I get used to it. Maybe it's more satisfying to like something when I had to work a little for it.

[KjeXXXer]

That's exactly how it is, Manna.

T - There is structure in recent metal, even if it goes beyond simple Verse-chorus-verse-chorus.
I don't know which artist you have in mind, so I can't go on about it.

[Teratogen]

Well I can't really name artists that well anyway. It's just that whenever I hear some black/speed/death/Viking metal or anything similar in nature I don't pay attention to the name of the band except to get a good laugh since most of them are quite ridiculous anyway, but I don't care to remember them. I do remember this one band though, Amon Amarth, who I thought were like Swedish or something but I saw a video of theirs of them performing live and they looked like backwoods creeps with electric guitars. They looked like inbred hicks. I have no idea what the hell an Amon Amarth is but it gave me a chuckle for a minute and then I passed on to something else.

[KjeXXXer]

Amon Amarth took their name from The Lord of The Rings (it's the elven name for Mount Doom).
They are a part of the scene called Viking Metal.

It's basically all about celebrating and reliving the norse viking culture. The reason for that is that one views christianity as a disease, a long terrible nightmare, an opression, and that one would like to focus more on the old norse culture, which, when all the cows have come home, is the true norse culture, as opposed to what was forced down peoples throats as the region was christianed.
They actually kick ass. If they looked like rednecks, then you didn't get a good enough glance (allthough that's all up to individual definition).

And I can point you alot of extreme metal music that is not at all rediculous, to give you proper insight into those realms, if you'd like. It's not all about snarling and playing really fast, you know.