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Bob Seger and Leonard Cohen

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=6734993

How 'Beautiful Loser' Helped Make Seger a Winner
by Steve Inskeep


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NPR.org, January 6, 2007 · Bob Seger played music for a decade with only glimmers of success. At one point he quit and went to college, but dropped out to take another pummeling in the music business.

His turnaround started in the mid-1970s, with an album called Beautiful Loser. It was just successful enough to keep him in the game. It was followed by a popular live album, then a string of smash-hit recordings -- songs that millions came to know, like "Night Moves," "Against the Wind" and "Old-Time Rock & Roll."

The title song of "[url=javascript:getStaticMedia('/me/20070108_me_beautifulloser','RM,WM')]Beautiful Loser[/url]" describes a type of person you could probably find anywhere, in New York or Nevada or Nigeria. Yet when I discovered this song, as a teenager in the 1980s, I felt that something about the character was especially Midwestern. Maybe I felt that way because I was Midwestern, and the guy in the song was a little like me:

He wants to dream like a young man
With the wisdom of an old man
He wants his home and security
He wants to live like a sailor at sea
Beautiful loser, where you gonna fall
When you realize, you just can't have it all?


I related to that guy, wanting to be adventurous but also conservative, wanting to play by the rules but also to win. "He's your oldest and your best friend / If you need him, he'll be there again" -- I'd want somebody to think that of me. But somehow this guy wrecks his own ambitions. At the end, the song turns bitter:

Beautiful loser, never take it all
'Cause it's easier and faster when you fall
You just don't need it all


When Seger spoke with us, I mentioned that old song. He didn't need much prompting to talk about it, even though it's been more than 30 years since he wrote it:

BOB SEGER: That was really inspired by Leonard Cohen, whom I've always been a huge fan of. And he actually had a book of poems called Beautiful Losers... When I had read that he had written that -- I've never read the poems -- but I've heard every Leonard Cohen song ever written because I'm a big fan. And it struck me -- boy, what a great title for a song, you know?

There's a song ["The Stranger Song"] in a great [Robert] Altman film, McCabe and Mrs. Miller... I think it was something about a dealer and "like every dealer he is reaching for the card that is so high and wild, he'll never have to deal another."... He's reaching for the sky just to surrender. And those two things, the title Beautiful Losers from Cohen's book and "reaching for the sky just to surrender," I can relate to that. People who set their goals so high that they're impossible, so they have comfort in failing. Does that make any sense? And that's what "Beautiful Loser" is all about. You... I don't know how to describe it but

STEVE INSKEEP: You're doing pretty well.

SEGER: I think I just did and that was the idea of the song. Whether or not I communicated it or not I'm not sure but... I just thought it was a clever title which I lifted blatantly from Leonard Cohen (laughs), and a different subject matter to write about. How some people are like that.

INSKEEP: Was that guy you?

SEGER: Um, I don't think so. I've always been fairly ambitious (laughs), but I've known a lot of people who are like that, who set themselves up to fail by reaching too far. I think we all do.

INSKEEP: They want to be polite, they want to be nice and they want to be aggressive, they want to be at home, they want to be away.

SEGER: They want it all. And, boy, if there's anything you learn -- Picasso said you learn everything by the time you're 60, but you can't do anything about it (laughs). And that's where I am now. And if there's anything I have learned is that you can't have it all. You sure can't.
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I'm a big fan of Bob Seger and of that song. It interests me these days as asking a question to myself. All the things I've accomplished being a mechanic and i t professional. At the end of my career doing these things that song kept coming up and the almost haunting voices of friends and family asking me who I did all that for......did I do it for myself? Because if I did all that work for myself then my whole life was in vain. I remember my career was being some kind of soldier or warrior for some cause I had no idea. I could fix just about anything [with the proper tools] you put in front of me. I've helped others so much I've been questioned about my servitude and if it were really necessary. Anyway it seems like I also reached for the sky [in my own personal way and career wise] only to surrender to the celestial bodies in power. It gives a body relief to know it didn't do everything only for that body.

My oldest and best friend is a country music singer.
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