Bob Dylan may have a cosy and lucrative deal with starbucks, but it seems that Bruce springstien does not............
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4520531.stm
Rob.
"Devils and Dust" ~ Bruce Springsteen
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linda_lakeside
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Thank for the link, Rob. Most interesting.
It doesn't sound as though they (Starbucks and Springstein) have a good relationship now, but the article (or at least the Starbucks spokesperson) implies that he's 'quite certain' that things will change in the 'future'. I wonder if that means they've already signed a deal of some sort or are bargaining one.
I had no idea that Starbucks was into the marketing of CDs to this extent! I wonder if they know that Ray Charles was once a heroin addict. How petty that Springstein would be criticized for one song with adult references. Aren't adults the main target of Starbucks advertising?
Linda.
It doesn't sound as though they (Starbucks and Springstein) have a good relationship now, but the article (or at least the Starbucks spokesperson) implies that he's 'quite certain' that things will change in the 'future'. I wonder if that means they've already signed a deal of some sort or are bargaining one.
I had no idea that Starbucks was into the marketing of CDs to this extent! I wonder if they know that Ray Charles was once a heroin addict. How petty that Springstein would be criticized for one song with adult references. Aren't adults the main target of Starbucks advertising?
Linda.
Ghost of Tom Joad was my all time favourite (the title track makes it to my all time top ten) To be honest I was never a fan until The River - I think the harmonica solo's are so haunting ............... very Dylanesque.
ALI
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Hi everyone,
I bought Devils and Dust and played it a number of times on some
long car trips. I appreciate the CD more than I enjoy it. It bothers
me that some of the lyrics (to my ears, at least) are difficult to clearly
hear. I'd like it more if the production and stylistic renderings
allowed for clearer vocals.
I bought Devils and Dust and played it a number of times on some
long car trips. I appreciate the CD more than I enjoy it. It bothers
me that some of the lyrics (to my ears, at least) are difficult to clearly
hear. I'd like it more if the production and stylistic renderings
allowed for clearer vocals.
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linda_lakeside
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Hi Steven,
I've always found Springsteen's vocals to be a tad difficult to make out. There are other artists I have the same trouble with. However, not having heard D&D yet, I can't comment on the production. It's my impression that this is a very pared down album in terms of production. Could it be, Steven, that we'e getting older and 'just can't make out that Rock & Roll music anymore'?
Linda.
I've always found Springsteen's vocals to be a tad difficult to make out. There are other artists I have the same trouble with. However, not having heard D&D yet, I can't comment on the production. It's my impression that this is a very pared down album in terms of production. Could it be, Steven, that we'e getting older and 'just can't make out that Rock & Roll music anymore'?
Linda.
Dearest Linda,
Do we sound as if we are getting older? -- Oh noooooooo.
As I've been a fan of Springsteen since just about the beginning
of his recording career, I'd think it would get easier rather than
more difficult to discern his words. But, then again, he's getting
older too, so you might think that he'd be more considerate of
his more challenged fan base. Honestly, I've a feeling that the vocals
might be easier to hear at the volume that many might play
his music. I've never been a fan of loud music and this could
be part of the problem.
Do we sound as if we are getting older? -- Oh noooooooo.
As I've been a fan of Springsteen since just about the beginning
of his recording career, I'd think it would get easier rather than
more difficult to discern his words. But, then again, he's getting
older too, so you might think that he'd be more considerate of
his more challenged fan base. Honestly, I've a feeling that the vocals
might be easier to hear at the volume that many might play
his music. I've never been a fan of loud music and this could
be part of the problem.
I just played the DVD video that was included. It adds value (the
jewel case broke, though, and lessens value a bit). Some, but not
all, of the CD's songs were performed by Bruce and he provided some commentary.
Seeing Bruce kind of channeling the characters that he
sings about, brings a richer dimension to his work.
jewel case broke, though, and lessens value a bit). Some, but not
all, of the CD's songs were performed by Bruce and he provided some commentary.
Seeing Bruce kind of channeling the characters that he
sings about, brings a richer dimension to his work.
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Hi Steven,
I just got the disc myself, nice surprise. I've not yet listened to the entire Cd, but did catch one tune, and felt very good about it. I think, though, it needs a few 'serious listens' before I can declare my undying affection. It's there, I'm sure, just not at 185 decibels.
See you,
Linda.
I'll up-date you, when I know for sure.
I just got the disc myself, nice surprise. I've not yet listened to the entire Cd, but did catch one tune, and felt very good about it. I think, though, it needs a few 'serious listens' before I can declare my undying affection. It's there, I'm sure, just not at 185 decibels.
See you,
Linda.
I'll up-date you, when I know for sure.
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Hi there,
I just got back from listening to as much of D&D as time allowed. I think this is a terrific album on many counts.
It could be called 'Dylanesque' in the way Springsteen's lyrics just seem to slap you (me, they, us, him, her, whoever) in the face. I didn't think, Steven, that the vocals needed 'assisted amplification'. Wonderful lyrics, though. The title track gave me a hitch...you know, almost an ache...
"Devils & Dust"
I got my finger on the trigger
But I don't know who to trust
When I look into your eyes
There's just devils and dust....
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
And fill it with devils and dust....
In a field of blood and stone
The blood began to dry
The smell began to rise
Well I dreamed of you last night, Bobbie
In a field of mud and bone...
We've got God on our side
We're just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love....
I just pulled the lyrics out of the whole song, but in order. Very powerful, esp. with the spare arrangement. Reminds me of, yes, Dylan. Not just the harmonica, it was the raw material (that probably took 365 days in a top notch studio , but I was quite moved by both the presentation and the writing. I think this is his best for a long while. I didn't have it in the background, this time. I sat and listened. Terrific album.
When he says "I got my finger on the trigger" you believe him.
Then, 'Fear's a powerful thing' - very powerful. This entire album is one jewel after another.
Linda.
PS: I can't pitch this enough, next on the carousel: Woven Hand.
I just got back from listening to as much of D&D as time allowed. I think this is a terrific album on many counts.
It could be called 'Dylanesque' in the way Springsteen's lyrics just seem to slap you (me, they, us, him, her, whoever) in the face. I didn't think, Steven, that the vocals needed 'assisted amplification'. Wonderful lyrics, though. The title track gave me a hitch...you know, almost an ache...
"Devils & Dust"
I got my finger on the trigger
But I don't know who to trust
When I look into your eyes
There's just devils and dust....
Fear's a powerful thing, baby
It can turn your heart black you can trust
It'll take your God filled soul
And fill it with devils and dust....
In a field of blood and stone
The blood began to dry
The smell began to rise
Well I dreamed of you last night, Bobbie
In a field of mud and bone...
We've got God on our side
We're just trying to survive
What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love....
I just pulled the lyrics out of the whole song, but in order. Very powerful, esp. with the spare arrangement. Reminds me of, yes, Dylan. Not just the harmonica, it was the raw material (that probably took 365 days in a top notch studio
, but I was quite moved by both the presentation and the writing. I think this is his best for a long while. I didn't have it in the background, this time. I sat and listened. Terrific album. When he says "I got my finger on the trigger" you believe him.
Then, 'Fear's a powerful thing' - very powerful. This entire album is one jewel after another.
Linda.
PS: I can't pitch this enough, next on the carousel: Woven Hand.
For those interested-
COLUMBIA RECORDS TO RELEASE HISTORIC 'BORN TO RUN 30TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION' ON NOVEMBER 15
BOX SET WILL INCLUDE THREE SEPARATE DISCS INCLUDING A STUNNING DVD OF THE LEGENDARY 1975 HAMMERSMITH ODEON CONCERT; A DVD OF "WINGS FOR WHEELS: THE MAKING OF BORN TO RUN," WITH NEVER BEFORE SEEN ARCHIVAL FOOTAGE AND NEW INTERVIEWS WITH ALL THE BAND MEMBERS AND MANY OTHERS; AND A CD OF THE BRILLIANTLY REMASTERED 'BORN TO RUN'
Columbia Records will release the 'Born To Run 30th Anniversary Edition' box set on November 15. Personally supervised by Bruce Springsteen and Jon Landau, the box set includes "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75," an astonishing film of Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band's legendary 1975 concert at the Hammersmith Odeon in London; the new film "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run;" the classic album in remastered CD form; and finally, a 48 page booklet of previously unpublished photographs. With its two DVDs, the package offers approximately four hours of previously unseen footage.
"I believe that the combination of the great 1975 concert footage, the brilliant documentary of the making of the album and the dazzling remastering of 'Born to Run' add up to a nearly perfect storm of Bruce's music," said longtime manager Jon Landau.
Spanning roughly two hours and ten minutes, the November 18, 1975 concert at London's Hammersmith Odeon finds an epic performance of sixteen Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band classics, including "Thunder Road," "Tenth Avenue Freeze Out," "Jungleland," and "Born To Run," as well as such other favorites such as "Kitty's Back" and "Rosalita." The multiple-camera film of the complete concert will be available in its entirety and its original sequence, as newly edited by Emmy Award Winner Thom Zimny. "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75" is the only full-length concert film ever released of Bruce and the E Street Band's first 25 years.
Zimny's production team painstakingly cleaned the original negatives and digitally restored the footage, ultimately presenting this indispensable concert in vibrant color and detail. Producer Bob Clearmountain remastered and remixed the DVD in both stereo and 5.1 surround sound. Zimny has worked with Springsteen on several projects, including editing the Emmy-winning "Live in New York," the quadruple-platinum certified, Emmy-nominated "Live in Barcelona" and the "VH1 Storytellers" films. Clearmountain is the legendary mixer who has often collaborated with Springsteen over the last twenty- five years, most famously on 'Born in the USA.'
The ninety-minute documentary "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run" chronicles the definitive story of the creation of 'Born To Run,' from songwriting to production and beyond. "Wings For Wheels" boasts archival film never shown publicly, including substantial footage of Springsteen and the E Street Band recording the album, 1975 concert film and other footage shot between 1973 and 1975. The film also features exclusive footage of Springsteen playing solo piano and guitar versions of songs from 'Born To Run.'
In addition, "Wings For Wheels" incorporates newly filmed interviews with Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, including former members who played on the album, as well as the production team. In newly shot footage from Asbury Park, NJ, Springsteen discusses his personal feelings about the making of the iconic album in great depth; the footage with Springsteen includes the musician reflecting on outtakes and unreleased tracks from the album for the first time since 1975. The DVD of "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born to Run" ends with stunning bonus footage of three songs recorded live at Los Angeles' Ahmanson Theater in 1973: "Spirit In The Night," "Wild Billy's Circus Story" and " Thundercrack."
Finally, the box set will feature a CD of the newly remastered 'Born To Run,' as well as a remarkable 48-page photo album of previously unpublished photographs with an introduction written by Springsteen. This is the first time Springsteen has allowed any of his catalogue to be fully remastered and he enlisted his longtime mastering guru Bob Ludwig to handle the job. The newly remastered version presents the masterpiece with striking clarity and presence. Widely regarded as one of the cornerstone albums in rock and roll history, 'Born To Run' has been recognized by many international polls as one of the greatest albums of all time. It has sold nearly nine million albums worldwide. Of 'Born To Run,' which was originally released August 25, 1975, Rolling Stone wrote, "It is a magnificent album that pays off on every bet ever placed on him—and it should crack his future wide open."
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band: "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75" Track Listing
1. Thunder Road
2. Tenth Avenue Freeze Out
3. Spirit In The Night
4. Lost In The Flood
5. She's The One
6. Born To Run
7. The E Street Shuffle/Having A Party
8. It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City
9. Backstreets
10. Kitty's Back
11. Jungleland
12. Rosalita
13. 4th Of July Asbury Park (Sandy)
14. Detroit Medley
15. For You
16. Quarter To Three
"Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run" Interview List
1. Bruce Springsteen
2. Roy Bittan
3. Ernest "Boom" Carter
4. Clarence Clemons
5. Danny Federici
6. Nils Lofgren
7. David Sancious
8. Patti Scialfa
9. Garry Tallent
10. Stevie Van Zandt
11. Max Weinberg
12. Jon Landau
13. Jimmy Iovine
14. Mike Appel
15. Eric Meola
COLUMBIA RECORDS TO RELEASE HISTORIC 'BORN TO RUN 30TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION' ON NOVEMBER 15
BOX SET WILL INCLUDE THREE SEPARATE DISCS INCLUDING A STUNNING DVD OF THE LEGENDARY 1975 HAMMERSMITH ODEON CONCERT; A DVD OF "WINGS FOR WHEELS: THE MAKING OF BORN TO RUN," WITH NEVER BEFORE SEEN ARCHIVAL FOOTAGE AND NEW INTERVIEWS WITH ALL THE BAND MEMBERS AND MANY OTHERS; AND A CD OF THE BRILLIANTLY REMASTERED 'BORN TO RUN'
Columbia Records will release the 'Born To Run 30th Anniversary Edition' box set on November 15. Personally supervised by Bruce Springsteen and Jon Landau, the box set includes "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75," an astonishing film of Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band's legendary 1975 concert at the Hammersmith Odeon in London; the new film "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run;" the classic album in remastered CD form; and finally, a 48 page booklet of previously unpublished photographs. With its two DVDs, the package offers approximately four hours of previously unseen footage.
"I believe that the combination of the great 1975 concert footage, the brilliant documentary of the making of the album and the dazzling remastering of 'Born to Run' add up to a nearly perfect storm of Bruce's music," said longtime manager Jon Landau.
Spanning roughly two hours and ten minutes, the November 18, 1975 concert at London's Hammersmith Odeon finds an epic performance of sixteen Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band classics, including "Thunder Road," "Tenth Avenue Freeze Out," "Jungleland," and "Born To Run," as well as such other favorites such as "Kitty's Back" and "Rosalita." The multiple-camera film of the complete concert will be available in its entirety and its original sequence, as newly edited by Emmy Award Winner Thom Zimny. "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75" is the only full-length concert film ever released of Bruce and the E Street Band's first 25 years.
Zimny's production team painstakingly cleaned the original negatives and digitally restored the footage, ultimately presenting this indispensable concert in vibrant color and detail. Producer Bob Clearmountain remastered and remixed the DVD in both stereo and 5.1 surround sound. Zimny has worked with Springsteen on several projects, including editing the Emmy-winning "Live in New York," the quadruple-platinum certified, Emmy-nominated "Live in Barcelona" and the "VH1 Storytellers" films. Clearmountain is the legendary mixer who has often collaborated with Springsteen over the last twenty- five years, most famously on 'Born in the USA.'
The ninety-minute documentary "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run" chronicles the definitive story of the creation of 'Born To Run,' from songwriting to production and beyond. "Wings For Wheels" boasts archival film never shown publicly, including substantial footage of Springsteen and the E Street Band recording the album, 1975 concert film and other footage shot between 1973 and 1975. The film also features exclusive footage of Springsteen playing solo piano and guitar versions of songs from 'Born To Run.'
In addition, "Wings For Wheels" incorporates newly filmed interviews with Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, including former members who played on the album, as well as the production team. In newly shot footage from Asbury Park, NJ, Springsteen discusses his personal feelings about the making of the iconic album in great depth; the footage with Springsteen includes the musician reflecting on outtakes and unreleased tracks from the album for the first time since 1975. The DVD of "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born to Run" ends with stunning bonus footage of three songs recorded live at Los Angeles' Ahmanson Theater in 1973: "Spirit In The Night," "Wild Billy's Circus Story" and " Thundercrack."
Finally, the box set will feature a CD of the newly remastered 'Born To Run,' as well as a remarkable 48-page photo album of previously unpublished photographs with an introduction written by Springsteen. This is the first time Springsteen has allowed any of his catalogue to be fully remastered and he enlisted his longtime mastering guru Bob Ludwig to handle the job. The newly remastered version presents the masterpiece with striking clarity and presence. Widely regarded as one of the cornerstone albums in rock and roll history, 'Born To Run' has been recognized by many international polls as one of the greatest albums of all time. It has sold nearly nine million albums worldwide. Of 'Born To Run,' which was originally released August 25, 1975, Rolling Stone wrote, "It is a magnificent album that pays off on every bet ever placed on him—and it should crack his future wide open."
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band: "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75" Track Listing
1. Thunder Road
2. Tenth Avenue Freeze Out
3. Spirit In The Night
4. Lost In The Flood
5. She's The One
6. Born To Run
7. The E Street Shuffle/Having A Party
8. It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City
9. Backstreets
10. Kitty's Back
11. Jungleland
12. Rosalita
13. 4th Of July Asbury Park (Sandy)
14. Detroit Medley
15. For You
16. Quarter To Three
"Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run" Interview List
1. Bruce Springsteen
2. Roy Bittan
3. Ernest "Boom" Carter
4. Clarence Clemons
5. Danny Federici
6. Nils Lofgren
7. David Sancious
8. Patti Scialfa
9. Garry Tallent
10. Stevie Van Zandt
11. Max Weinberg
12. Jon Landau
13. Jimmy Iovine
14. Mike Appel
15. Eric Meola
Linda,
"I just pulled the lyrics out of the whole song, but in order. Very powerful, esp. with the spare arrangement. Reminds me of, yes, Dylan. Not just the harmonica, it was the raw material (that probably took 365 days in a top notch studio , but I was quite moved by both the presentation and the writing. I think this is his best for a long while. I didn't have it in the background, this time. I sat and listened. Terrific album. "
Regarding the "raw" material, the simplicity of the DVD may also
have taken much work to achieve, judging by the number of names
on the credits. The DVD is artful and this isn't a criticism, but I
wonder how much thought and effort went into the appearance of
non-contrivance. I watched/listened to the DVD about five times,
with appreciation growing each time. (No problem discerning the
words on the DVD.) In the DVD, Bruce, especially after one of the
songs, does resemble Robert DeNiro. (This trivial observation
may not be shared by others.)
"I just pulled the lyrics out of the whole song, but in order. Very powerful, esp. with the spare arrangement. Reminds me of, yes, Dylan. Not just the harmonica, it was the raw material (that probably took 365 days in a top notch studio
, but I was quite moved by both the presentation and the writing. I think this is his best for a long while. I didn't have it in the background, this time. I sat and listened. Terrific album. "Regarding the "raw" material, the simplicity of the DVD may also
have taken much work to achieve, judging by the number of names
on the credits. The DVD is artful and this isn't a criticism, but I
wonder how much thought and effort went into the appearance of
non-contrivance. I watched/listened to the DVD about five times,
with appreciation growing each time. (No problem discerning the
words on the DVD.) In the DVD, Bruce, especially after one of the
songs, does resemble Robert DeNiro. (This trivial observation
may not be shared by others.)
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