Question - Unreleased material from Leonard

[merton]

Hi,

I've mislaid a link to unreleased material by Leonard. I think it was either Tom or Maarten had compiled the list originally and put it out into the greater Cohen world. I wonder if someone could post the link.

Many thanks.

All the best,
Merton

[Maarten]

Hi Merton,
Keeping track of all the unreleased stuff is Tom's job! (well, "passion" is a better way to describe his obsession )
Here's a link to Tom's post about it:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22041&p=277086#p281595

Hint: you can either "subscribe topic" or "bookmark topic" at the bottom of each page for easy reference later.

Let me (or Tom!) know if you need more info!

Maarten

[merton]

Hi Maarten,

Many thanks. I didn't know about this list and it's good to have it. Am I wrong in saying that maybe Tom has a link to old live recordings dating back to to 70's ? I know somewhere I saw a link and listened to some of the material.

Maarten, again thanks for the link and the advice.

All the best,
Merton

[Goldin]

Hi Merton,

Don't know what list did you see (well, now I want to find it too), but you may find these suggestions useful.

1) Five 70s bootlegs are listed here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27405#p278738

2) You should register at http://www.dimeadozen.org
This is, I guess, the main source of new (and renewed) LC bootlegs. All recordings are "of independent origin" (so called ROIO), so uploaders don't infringe copyright.
As a registered user, you'll be able to use search. Type +Leonard +Cohen +197* - and you'll find more bootlegs. The same with other periods and artists.

[tomsakic]

Indeed there was a webpage contacting all the unreleased stuff you're referring to, i.e. mp3 tracks from old RARE SONGS and RARE LIVE SONGS fan bootlegs. That page was hosted by our Forum member and old fan ~greg, but ~greg passed away recently and with time the site has been deleted.... the URL was http://www.twoshakesofalambstail.com/st ... index.html And here's the discussion about the page with ~greg, in happier days of this Forum:) viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3271

~greg's webpage contained archives of old Leonard Cohen Newsgroup from early 90s, and that was a gold mine, plus it had the page entitled Rare Live Songs which was actually mp3s made from fan-bootleg of the same name, containing Bryn Mawr performances of unreleased Songs for Rebecca album and other rare stuff from 70s and 80s.

Nevertheless, most of these songs, previously available on Rare Live Songs CDRs, were last year compiled again by DrHGuy and published for download on his blog - this CD, entitled The Other Leonard Cohen Album, was recently chose by Mojo among 50 best bootlegs:)

The download link is at: http://1heckofaguy.com/2010/01/25/now-a ... hen-album/

Most of 70s songs from Greg's website and Rare Live Songs CD are included on Another Other Leonard Cohen Album: download it at http://1heckofaguy.com/2010/05/20/prese ... hen-album/

Track List: Another Other Songs Of Leonard Cohen
1. Je Veux Vivre Tout Seul: 27 May 1976, Le Grand Échiquier (A2-TV), Paris, France (Bird on the Wire with French verse) (4:39)
2. Kevin Barry: 1972(4:00)
3. Die Gedanken Sind Frei: 1976 (3:31)
4. Store Room: Montreux, Switzerland, 25 June 1976 (4:37)
5. As Time Goes By: 1972 (2:26)
6. Don’t Go Home with Your Hard-on: Bryn Mawr, US, 23 November 1975 (2:59)
7. Blessed is the Memory: Frankfurt, Germany, 25 April 1976 (3:26)
8. Silent Night: Birmingham, UK, 15 December 1979 (2:24)
9. Dead Song: Frankfurt, Germany, 6 May 1970 (0:20)
10. Another Saturday Night: Melbourne, Australia, 8 March 1980 (0:58)
11. Ballad of the Absent Mare: Vienna, Austria, 6 July 1985 (7:06)
12. Guerrero: Bryn Mawr, US, 23 November 1975 (3:19)
13. The Butcher: Toronto, Canada, 31 January 1975 (4:32)
14. Un As Der Rebbe Singt: 1976 (0:58)
15. Song to the Machines: Tel Aviv, Israel, 19 April 1972 (2:46)
16. If It Be Your Will: Vienna, Austria, 6 July 1985 (3:48)
17. Thirsty for the Kiss: London, UK, 6 December 1979 (3:33)
18. A Thousand Kisses Deep: Armelle Brusq’s documentary “Spring 1996″ (2:19)
19. I Tried To Leave You Vienna, Austria, 6 July 1985 (14:56)
20. Whither Thou Goest: Warsaw, Poland, 31 March 2007 (1:45)
21. Mr Cohen Must Be Going: Paris, France, 19 October 1974 (0:38)

[tomsakic]

As the unreleased stuff is in question, Maarten linked to my recent lists of post-Dear-Heather tracks, which now did not made it into the Old Ideas... But my earlier lists were at now defunct JF's website I'm Your Live Man, leonardcohelive.com.

In April 2011 I met Artur Jarosinski in Krakow - he took over I'm Your Man website from JF and he showed me the brand new design he was working on in his laptop. Sadly, Arturo died in accident in August, age 32........ He was "banalny" on dimeadozen.org and since he passed away the Leonard Cohen recordings and archives at dimeadozen.org are more or less dead.

For couple of years I believed that site is lost forever, especially since Artur died, but Goldin sent me recently the archived mirror copy of JF's website, it's at http://web.archive.org/web/200709201855 ... nlive.com/

The Leonard Cohen Store Room, with lists of all unfinished and unreleased sessions and album outtakes, is archived at http://web.archive.org/web/200709180712 ... reroom.htm - I think that's the list you are asking for:)

[tomsakic]

Huh, using Goldin's Internet WayBack Machine, this is how ~greg's page looked like, very simple: http://web.archive.org/web/200412121833 ... storeroom/

Of course, the mp3 links are all dead. But you can download those 2 bootlegs prepared by DrHGuy:)

[John Etherington]

Although many of us have the tracks on the list in some shape or form, I'm surprised that they didn't include a disk of these with the box-sets that have been released. Maybe, it will be included in some future compilation? I'm also surprised they haven't released more stuff on DVD considering the revived interest in LC, in recent years.

[Goldin]

The most interesting part of this archive are transcriptions. Here's a brief overview of them.
http://web.archive.org/web/200411182253 ... index.html
Underlined titles refers to the songs released on albums.
Links are given to the songs written by somebody else, not Leonard Cohen.

I'm The Man Who Wrote Suzanne -- Manchester 1972
Another Saturday Night -- Melbourne 1980 -- a 60s hit by Sam Cooke
As Time Goes By -- 1972 -- song from Casablanca
Banks Of Marble -- Frankfurt 1972 -- about the song & what happened in Kent, Ohio
Billy Sunday a.k.a. The Blues by the Jews -- 1979-1980, this transcript is for Brighton 1979
Bird On The Wire with brief French introduction -- 1974-1976
Broken Lip -- Frankfurt 1972
Can't Help Falling In Love With You -- Oslo 1988 -- Elvis Presley's hit
Chelsea Hotel #1 -- 1972
Die Gedanken Sind Frei {1} -- Germany/Austria/Switzerland 1976, this transcript is for Nuremberg -- about the song
Die Gedanken Sind Frei {2} -- and this looks like the recordings of Vienna and Graz, but there're some minor mismatches
Do I Have To Dance All Night -- 1976, 1980
Dona Nobis Pacem -- Munich 1974 -- Catholic canon "Give Us Peace"
Don't Go Home With Your Hard On -- Bryn Mawr 1975
Everybody's Child a.k.a. Blessed Is the Memory -- 1976
Guerrero -- Bryn Mawr 1975 -- the early version of Iodine (as for me, there's not so much in common between these songs)
I Tried To Leave You
I'm Trying To Break Free Myself -- Frankfurt 1974
Improvisation With Audience -- ??? !!!
Iodine -- 1979
Is This What You Wanted?
Kevin Barry -- 1972 -- Irish rebel song, note: Kevin Barry was hanged in 1920, not in 1916 (year of the Easter Rising) as LC stated
Lover Lover Lover
Misty Blue -- studio outtake 1979 -- song written by Bob Montgomery and made famous by Dorothy Moore in 1976
Red River Valley -- 1975, 1979 -- wiki article states that it was performed live by Leonard Cohen, "a life-long country music enthusiast"
Regina -- Paris 1970
Seems So Long Ago, Nancy
Silent Night -- Brighton 1979 -- Christmas carol
Sing Another Song, Boys -- 1970, 1972; this transcript is for Frankfurt 1970 concert
Storeroom -- 1976; this is Montreux concert
Tennessee Waltz -- 1985
The Butcher
The Partisan -- LC is refering again to the incident in Kent University (1970)
The Smokie Life -- 1979-1980
There Is A War -- unfortunately, haven't heard this version (Why don't you come on back to the war,/"Trust now" - you tell me this!/Why don't you come on back to the war,/But you look so pretty when you're asleep.)
There Is No Reason Why You Should Remember Me -- London 1968
Thirsty For The Kiss -- London 1979; early Heart with No Companion
To Love Somebody -- 1980 -- Bee Gees song
Tower Of Song -- ??? announcer > "I think it was Disraeli who said that the poet is the painter of the soul. I don't think he was wrong. Thus - please welcome our next guest; - poet, - and ballad monger: Mr Leonard Cohen"
Un As Der Rebbe Singt -- 1970, 1974-1976, 1979 -- Yiddish folk song
We Shall Not Be Moved -- 1972 -- American protest song originated from an African American spiritual "I Shall Not Be Moved"
When You Kneel Below Me -- Frankfurt 1970; actually, Leonard Cohen's poem "Celebration" from "The Spice-Box of Earth" (was performed also in Southport 1976, but not before "Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye" - in a series of poetry recitations)
Who By Fire -- interesting additions to each strophe ("Tell me", "I want to know - oh yeah, yeah, yeah", etc.)
Wither Thou Goest -- 1988, 1993; "We're leaving Germany tomorrow morning..." -- a popular song with lyrics adapted from the Bible
You Are My Sunshine -- 1976 -- a standart based on Ukranian traditional melody, in 1962 (!) it was recorded by Ray Charles (! -> heard by LC on Hydra?)

[Goldin]

Transcriptions are available now outside Wayback machine at
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts1.htm: A-B
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts2.htm: C-E
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts4.htm: G-K
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts5.htm: L-S
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts6.htm: S-Y
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts7.htm: W + 3 new songs from recent World Tour with translations to Catalan

P.S.: Ah, this is the index - http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/rare.htm

[tomsakic]

Thanks, Goldin. It is nice (and sad) to see the work by gone fans saved in this way.

John, it may well be that these songs are not available in Sony archives... These are mostly audience recordings and almost all are impromptu improvisations or mocking covers, and it is known that Columbia didn't bother to record Cohen's shows... In 1988 and 1993 they recorded only shows in Canada (that's on Cohen Live), in 1979 they recorded Birmingham, Brighton and London and what survived from those tapes is on Field Commander Cohen... Tennessee Waltz on Dear Heather - Leonard personally took the radio bootleg and cut off the track (Jarkko sent him a copy)... Songs for Rebecca were erased by mistake... Poetry album recorded by Henry Lewy in early 80s was so badly archived it is claimed now it cannot be released (that's what Leonard wrote to the Forum few years ago)... There's almost none 1970 or 1972 shows I heard long ago... and IOW was pulled from BBC's tapes not from Sony/Columbia!

When Sony released the remasters of first three albums they didn't dig almost any of songs from sessions known by titles only, except two songs from Hammond sessions. I wrote to LC inquiring where are Priests, he answered that "they did not dig deeply enough". The list of early demos is at http://web.archive.org/web/200709152018 ... sdemos.htm plus there's that infamous 1966 acetate LP of which only one copy was heard of and all we got was its track listing as the owner wanted to sell it only to LC -> http://web.archive.org/web/200709140557 ... tate66.htm

[ForYourSmile]

Thanks, Goldin. It is nice (and sad) to see the work by gone fans saved in this way.

I was wondering; sad? why sad? Then reading, I realized that probably you're right. I guess, saved this is a shared and collaborative hobby. We must enjoy it as we can. Leonard gave us his ancient priestly benediction at the end of a concert, so I have no fear of any curse. ~greg's work, part of Leonard 's work, is not lost, it has always available under request and now we can download it freely, in the spirit of two shakes of a lamb's tail (the ~greg's WEB was www twoshakesofalambstail)

For my organization, I changed the file names, but I think it's basically all.

Goldin; I have used your information in this post in order to short out the stuff. In the dropbox, you could find There Is A War, really great.

Tower Of Song and Who By Fire were taken from the show Sunday Night Live 1989 Feb. 13 with David Sanborn, Sonny Rollins and Was Not Was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdllstkW9yI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpDNghQ6pKo

Transcriptions are available now outside Wayback machine at
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts1.htm: A-B
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts2.htm: C-E
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts4.htm: G-K
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts5.htm: L-S
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts6.htm: S-Y
http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/transcripts7.htm: W + 3 new songs from recent World Tour with translations to Catalan

P.S.: Ah, this is the index - http://perso.orange.es/anmopa9887/lc/rare.htm

These days I have updated and improved my WEB, the index works but it's in Catalan for you better the English version. The transcriptions have changed.