Thank You to Lizzy :)

This is for your own works!!!
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Dear Elizabeth,

I saw your photograph at the Gallery and I must say you are beautiful as well! Oh and thank you for the compliments of my avatar. It is actually a couple of years old only, but I think I've added some weight since then. Seems age is beginning to straddle me :evil: with this tummy that too well remembers pregnancy, and this jawline that spites me. What does give me comfort along this odyssey is that our eyes do never change. The soul we see in them sings loud and long until our dying day...

I love that you triumphed in obtaining your undergraduate degree! Your journey towards it amazes me. I did try one other time for mine ~ at the University of Illinois in Chicago, I studied two years. Received best poet award in 1991, kept up a 4.8 GPA despite the declining health of my new baby and the fact that his father had left me. But at the end of those two years, with Oliver's epilepsy worsening, came the diagnosis of autism, and the accusations of his doctors that I was somehow directly to blame, even though I had not touched a drop of alcohol during my pregnancy ~ well, it really flayed me. I said to the Universe, I did my part and this is what you give to us?

It would be several years before I would come to grasp what I now believe, that each of us makes a contract for our lives well ahead of time. That our souls always know exactly what we need and we choose who'll we become accordingly. And that allows me to more deeply appreciate my son Oliver's bravery ~ for who could be so courageous as to choose a life in a body that quakes and that cannot communicate too fluently and exists in fight-or-flight's nightmare reality? I struggle, but at least I can speak. At least I can reason through some of my anxiety. Oliver is like an animal in a zoo who cannot fathom WHY he is caged. It breaks my heart.

But do I believe Oliver's soul has been here a while. His Craniosacral therapist saw him in a past-life vision as a Viking on a ship that was sinking in a violent storm. He had a massive dagger in his neck. And it's strange, his neck still bothers him to this day. She said that his shipmates were being tossed by the wind into the sea because the storm was so deadly. But my Oliver, he laid down in the bottom of the boat and waited for the Dying, bravely. So Lizzy, who am I to question his courage in taking on a life of autism? It's just that in the day-to-day maelstrom I can forget this lesson so easily...

You know, I decided recently that if I ever write an autobiography I was going to name it "Waiting for Cancer" :cry: but now I think I'll change that title, at least temporarily. Do you have any ideas?

Again, have a gorgeous journey this next week.
Sincerely,
Hillary
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I read this book decades ago so I don't remember much detail.
Sorry to be so far behind, but I've only just come across this thread.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 5?v=glance

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Hi Jo,

I've never seen that book before. Thank you for showing it to me! It would be a very sad read. But definitely something I should find.

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Hillary
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Hillary, any teasing is in entirely welcoming fun spirit! It's a birthday weekend at home so all reading of poetry is delayed until Monday the earliest. see you then!
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Dear C2,

Thanks for reassuring me that your wittiness was all in good fun. I figured as much, and that is why I replied in an equally cheeky manner :D Have a terrific birthday weekend and I look forward to your keen poetic insights on Monday 8)

Sincerely,
Hillary
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Dear Hillary,

Since I live and work near Madison, maybe we can have a cup of coffee together sometime. i don't know if I can help, but I would love to think I can, at least, provide some Leonard-like affinity.

all the best,

Joe
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Hi Joe,

Yes, we might be able to have coffee, although I tend towards hibernation in the winter 8) so getting me outside for any reason can be a monumental feat. This has only gotten worse since I haven't had a job. Why, just 7 years ago I boarded a Greyhound bus on an impulse and went to New Orleans for three and a half months ~ and now I hardly like to leave my apartment :( I really should return to the realm of the living one of these years, shouldn't I? I'm not quite ready to resign myself to life as a recluse.

Sincerely,
Hillary
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Hi Hillary,

Yes, you should get out more! It makes no sense to live in frosty Wisconsin if you don't challenge yourself. Leonard grew up in Montreal where even the river freezes and they have a frozen waterfall; now he gave up and lives in LA, but we forgive him because he makes nice music.

Please look at my note about Lorine Niedecker at the "Other Poetry" forum-I think you would like her. Your work distills your vision quite well and more importantly provides an outlet from the challenges that demand your attention.

Send me a private message, should you want to have a cup of coffee together sometime. There are probably many Leonard fans in Madison, but we haven't been very successful in getting together. The joy that my wife and I have had in meeting our Leonard brethren throughout the world is hard to describe, but well worth the effort it takes to meet beyond this electronic world we now live in.

Thanks for your honest sharing here in our midst.

All the best,

Joe
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Dear Hillary,

I also wanted to say that I enjoy your writing, though, it reminds me of one of my favorite lines from a Tim Hardin song-"Goodbye, Hank Williams:"

"He sang from his heart, took the pain out for his fans
Who watched all the pain in his heart, and then, clapped their hands."

Leonard loved this aspect of Hank as well. I hope your life starts to turn out better.

Love,

Joe
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Dear Hillary ~

I've tried in vain to catch up with the Forum this evening that has turned to this morning of approximately 2:00 AM. Knowing I wouldn't finish, I came to the Member's Poetry section, read the troll-oriented threads, and have now read all postings by you. You know that 'best-to-the-last' principle :D .
" . . . University of Illinois in Chicago, I studied two years. Received best poet award in 1991, kept up a 4.8 GPA despite the declining health of my new baby and the fact that his father had left me."
[Ask me if I'm surprized :wink: :D .] Was your award based upon one poem, or a series/accumulation of your poetry? Do you still have the one[s] that resulted in this honour? If so, would you mind sharing it or them?
"He sang from his heart, took the pain out for his fans
Who watched all the pain in his heart, and then, clapped their hands."
Yes, it could be said we 'clap our hands' in response to your writings. However, not as commercial, 'mindless' seals ~ but rather from the position that Tom has so eloquently expressed. The clapping is barely audible, far too tender to be easily heard.

Thank you for your compliment on my [also-aging :wink: , believe me :shock: ~ I'll spare you the details, which baffle me with their sudden arisings :? ] appearance ~ there's some kind of momentum that takes hold without our permission. Thank G~d for our eyes. You're so right. Yours hold a depth of expression and beauty. Your words also remain timeless.

I agree with you in your belief about reincarnation and the progressive process of our lessons. As I've been 'told' we choose our parents, Oliver chose the perfect mother. Some doctors frightfully amaze me with their ignorance. I can imagine your anger and feelings of betrayal and abandonment. You've struggled so long to give your children as much as you possibly can. When there's been nothing left of yourself for you, you've given to them.
"Oliver is like an animal in a zoo who cannot fathom WHY he is caged. It breaks my heart."
There's nothing of the intellect to say about this; it's all about feeling.

It's hard to believe you asked for my input for a title. Fortunately, it's not something that requires immediate selection :shock: :wink: . I know that in the end it will come from you, of course, its rightful source. As graphic as its implications are, my concern with the one you've considered is our ability to create our own, self-fulfilling prophecies with our mindsets. In truth, your strength rails in the opposite direction, "Defying Cancer," and is anything but passive. As eroding as that disease may be, you continue to build with materials possessed, given, and found to create a safeplace for Oliver, Ronan, and you. Once a protective services counselor for abused and neglected children, and their families, I recognize your inherent strength and will. What you have fought so hard for, and continue to protect, is solidly bonded with love. Your kind of valiance, in a single parent under such massive circumstances, is rarely seen. You become rightfully depressed, but you continue to fight for what you believe in and know is right.

Sleep well this Saturday night, Hillary. It's heartening to come here and read more of you. This posting to me was a wonderful, personal "Welcome Home!" At 3:15 AM now, I must say goodnight.

Love,
Elizabeth
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Ah! Medusafern's back :D ......I see her right now 8) !
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Oh, how can I ever fully, heartfully reply to such fullness and sweetness and authenticity of heart? I may have to take a nap shortly just to catch my breath, but I promise, promise, promise to return after I fetch Ronan from his bus stop three hours from now!

No more empty hours playing mindless games on pogo.com for Hillary, no, it's time to be Right Here :wink:

Sincerely,
Hillary
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I'm so glad to see you, Hillary :D ! Thanks for your wonderful response :D .

Love,
Lizzy

P.S. Being 'mindless' isn't all bad :wink: . In this case, it just happened to conflict with my preferences :) .
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welcome back Hillary. I have studied the photo which accompanies your return post and I consider that you are looking just the same (which is very fine by me!).


regards

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:lol: BAN POGO.COM :lol:

See how you are, Hillary? One appearance and you've started a movement :wink: .
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