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Well said Martine. What does Critic2 want? He wants a scapegoat to hang his own failures. He misses George for the banter. If it is not George, some other poor bastard will do. I admit I do miss this site for the interchange we once had, but now it is not worth it. I directed people here over to the other site and got ridicule. I think I will stay off here and site with Maakera, it is enough to keep me active and busy.
Critic2, Reality checks and Avalon's are dragging this site to the gutter.
For the purer pundits of this site, I have written a poem about Leonard Cohen in a competition to honour his forthcoming 70th Birthday. If you do not like my poetry, there are others who have written.
Best wishes to all on this Board..............Georges.
Critic2, Reality checks and Avalon's are dragging this site to the gutter.
For the purer pundits of this site, I have written a poem about Leonard Cohen in a competition to honour his forthcoming 70th Birthday. If you do not like my poetry, there are others who have written.
Best wishes to all on this Board..............Georges.
I am a right bad ass, dankish prince and I love my Violet to bits.
I just found George's poem tribute to Leonard. I will diplomatically restrain myself by saying that it is primary school teenager standard at best. It is not gibberish, George knows what he wants to say but there is not a sign of any talent at all for him to say it.
DO NOT RUSH TO DEFEND HIM. Read the damn piece itself. For example
"Followed by the album, Songs from a Room
With its inherent, bedsit, flickering, gloom
Songs of Love and Hate
That did twist and tear at the nimble finger of fate
And Live Songs
That cemented the fact that the singer could do no wrong
The list goes on and on...."
This is shocking dogerell. If your 12 year old wrote it you would send him back to his room and ORDER him to watch TV instead.
"nimble finger of fate" - oh my, this phrase would takes some beating in a competition to make a dreadful clichee even worse. A writer should try to find his own voice, to inspire with originality and inspiration.
Writing poetry is not a mechanical task of fitting rhymes and using repeated phrases.
"To earn his place in the Tower of Song
And in my heart
Where his influence will never part" the absolutley banal rhyme of heart and part means George was satisfied in a simplistic fit regardless of how dull and unoriginal it may be.
"A new album out soon, of new songs at seventy
His horn has been filled again, aplenty"
what adult wityh any pretension at all to writing would adapt a clichee like "horn a plenty"
It is a desperate desperate effort. And I still have nothig against George personally, and I am still the only one offering him useful advice.
None of the "wow" kids on allpoetry, and none of his loyal friends here, are helping him at all.
The man wants to write poetry, let him post to a serious place (remember, alt.arts.poetry.comments newsgroup, ignore the trolls) where he has the chance to learn from others more experienced and more talented. Or let him post wherever he wants but take a breath and accept that he is a total beginner who is too insecure or arrogant to admit his true level of skill.
DON'T RUSH TO DEFEND HIM. Read the damn poem.
DO NOT RUSH TO DEFEND HIM. Read the damn piece itself. For example
"Followed by the album, Songs from a Room
With its inherent, bedsit, flickering, gloom
Songs of Love and Hate
That did twist and tear at the nimble finger of fate
And Live Songs
That cemented the fact that the singer could do no wrong
The list goes on and on...."
This is shocking dogerell. If your 12 year old wrote it you would send him back to his room and ORDER him to watch TV instead.
"nimble finger of fate" - oh my, this phrase would takes some beating in a competition to make a dreadful clichee even worse. A writer should try to find his own voice, to inspire with originality and inspiration.
Writing poetry is not a mechanical task of fitting rhymes and using repeated phrases.
"To earn his place in the Tower of Song
And in my heart
Where his influence will never part" the absolutley banal rhyme of heart and part means George was satisfied in a simplistic fit regardless of how dull and unoriginal it may be.
"A new album out soon, of new songs at seventy
His horn has been filled again, aplenty"
what adult wityh any pretension at all to writing would adapt a clichee like "horn a plenty"
It is a desperate desperate effort. And I still have nothig against George personally, and I am still the only one offering him useful advice.
None of the "wow" kids on allpoetry, and none of his loyal friends here, are helping him at all.
The man wants to write poetry, let him post to a serious place (remember, alt.arts.poetry.comments newsgroup, ignore the trolls) where he has the chance to learn from others more experienced and more talented. Or let him post wherever he wants but take a breath and accept that he is a total beginner who is too insecure or arrogant to admit his true level of skill.
DON'T RUSH TO DEFEND HIM. Read the damn poem.
Martine, are you about to self-implode? I love it when people do that. And you are apparently prepared to do it for someone who wrote
"After some solitude with the power of Zen
He re establishes himself again
With his guitar and intelligent pen"
ah ah ha!!!!!
go on, take a moment off from your rage and tell me about the quality of the writing of those lines in George's tribute poem. They are useless and embarassing.
"After some solitude with the power of Zen
He re establishes himself again
With his guitar and intelligent pen"
ah ah ha!!!!!
go on, take a moment off from your rage and tell me about the quality of the writing of those lines in George's tribute poem. They are useless and embarassing.
did is ma tribute verse to Martine, ritten in faux naiive primitive style of ma Main Man, George Wright
Martine rages
Martine rants
Martine shouts
and wets her pants
someone won't give his name
(CHORUS "someone won't give his name, oooh!)
If clouds open once again
how the hell do I know it's rain
unless it is introduced
properly
Without nomenclature
all discussion ain't mature
a smack in the nose
is as sweet as a rose
(but that's mere
Bill Shakespeare
and we have GEORGE WRIGHT here)
forgot to add, Martine ol' gal, your words were very naughty. I hurt so much when I read "You crawling filthy stinking little worm" and not just hurt but I fell with jealousy as you are obviously as talented, nay, nay, that's impossible, Madam, *nearly* as talented as George himself.
ps I can't find your post where you deal with George's actaul poetry. I sthere a problem.
pps if you have already imploded I will accept that as an excuse for your failure to write about the poem itself.
Martine rages
Martine rants
Martine shouts
and wets her pants
someone won't give his name
(CHORUS "someone won't give his name, oooh!)
If clouds open once again
how the hell do I know it's rain
unless it is introduced
properly
Without nomenclature
all discussion ain't mature
a smack in the nose
is as sweet as a rose
(but that's mere
Bill Shakespeare
and we have GEORGE WRIGHT here)
forgot to add, Martine ol' gal, your words were very naughty. I hurt so much when I read "You crawling filthy stinking little worm" and not just hurt but I fell with jealousy as you are obviously as talented, nay, nay, that's impossible, Madam, *nearly* as talented as George himself.
ps I can't find your post where you deal with George's actaul poetry. I sthere a problem.
pps if you have already imploded I will accept that as an excuse for your failure to write about the poem itself.
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