Lists of Love and HATE (Room 101)

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Lists of Love and HATE (Room 101)

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This is a two-pronged attack to measure your psyche :lol: Andrew is the other prong so to speak. 8)

Room 101 is a room to which you consign all of your evils to oblivion. I think the room came in to being in "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy". I may be shot down in flames on that one as my memory is similar to my hard-drive, very spasmodic and prone to freeze.

I am starting this thread in case any of you have choices already mapped out, as it is going to take me a few days to compile my list. That is not for lack of entries but the fact I have to plane it down. My protestations that I was laid-back may have been premature and now be sorely tested.
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Room 101 is from George Orwell's 1984. It was where the worst things were kept. I think the TV show has slighty distorted the original idea from the book ,but cannot be certain. Weren't the rats in 101 in the film?
Anyway, what to put?
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Eminem ~ to be spared if he'll engage in treatment.

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I don't recall Room 101, unless that was the deceptive term for the pit, where I remember the rats for one, snakes for another, etc.
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I think to be fair as Andrew is doing Desert Island Discs we need to put ten items each into room 101.

My items were things like

People who wait until they have packed every single item of shopping and then decided to find their purse; or

People who stop suddenly when you are walking and you end up falling arse over tit over them. (an English saying - very technical)
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Room 101 was to be your own personal form of torture, where your very worst nightmare comes true. For the hero of 1984 it was a room full of rats. I think Nancy Spungen was allegedly killed by Sid Vicious in the Chelsea Hotel's Room 101. Recalls a statement from the Bible, Psalms perhaps, not sure, "My worst fear has come upon me." I think what the Middle Eastern terrorists or those in the Pentagon are cooking up exceeds anything a misguided rock and roller could produce.
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...or for that matter, a misguided rapper.
Who is Nancy Spungen & Sid Vicious ??
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Compiling a list of 10 very worst fears would be difficult, indeed.....taking it to the literal level. I agree on the impact and potential of all that's brewing politically/economically here and worldwide. I'd say many of us would end up with a lot of overlapping on our lists. Of course, the misguided "role models" to the young have a more insidious effect. I took the suggested list to not be the very worst personal fears.

The black-and-white version of the film that I saw had the greatest fear contained in a pit [as memory recalls :lol: ~ or tries to], with the person in question being suspended over and lowered slowly into the pit, ever-nearing their greatest fear. Their only way to survive this ordeal was to tell the authorities, the Big Brother people, to instead kill the person that they had already been determined to be their closest, most intimate human link.

As this process repeated itself, and people began to "betray" those nearest and dearest to them, the alienation process took hold, with each "partner" realizing that they had just been given the death sentence by their closest and most trusted loved one, so that the latter might survive.

The "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" phenomena finally complete ~ and the people walking about like zombies, for the shock and trauma of what they had just survived, yet for what, having both betrayed and been betrayed, the trust, intimacy, and connection destroyed, takeover and total control had become a matter of merely sweeping up the crumbs. I understand there was a colour version of the film, and I believe the version I saw was produced overseas. Was this the way it was depicted in colour? Or was the room an actual room? I only recall the pit.

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I don't remember seeing the film 1984 but I read the book a long time ago. Sid Vicious was a British punk musician of the 70's, member of a band called the Sex Pistols. Nancy Spungen was his brazen brash-mouthed punk girlfriend. They were both heavily into heroin and rebellion and had a tempestuous violent relationship. Nancy was stabbed to death in room 101 of the Chelsea and Sid was the only one there to blame for it, though some people thought it might have resulted from a break-in robbery. Sid went out on a overdose shortly after. Their "love" is immortalized in a sometimes poignant film called "Sid and Nancy."
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Post by Linda »

I am totally not familar with the book, movie, tv show or any of this, so what are we looking for, our greatest fears, pet peeves, something that really bugs us, or just any of those I mentioned. It sounds interesting, but I am a bit confused as to what you are looking for now.
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