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Partisan · Post by **Partisan** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 12:25 pm

Deviant:
n : a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior

Lizzy, as is your established pattern you have totally got the wrong end of the stick. I was merely taking Andrew's use of the word deviation and deviating with it. The subtlety of this appears lost on you. Please do try to be less certain in your interpetation of what others mean. I knew what Georges was referring to in his repsonse, even if his words were as opaque as ever.

Georges, it is not a question of moral high ground. It is simply your complete inability to answer the most elementary question about anything. This could lead even the most benevolent reader to conclude that you don't have the first clue as to what you are on about yourself. I only ask you basic questions about what you write, the names you use, etc.. In return you reply with invective. A less objective person than myself might derive from this that you are an idiot, or possibly just a buffoon. Carpe diem Georges. Try answering those questions, put the critics to flight, I know you can do it really.

p.

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 1:20 pm

I must confess, i am a buffoon. I am sorry for gracing these pages with my opaque crap. Please forgive me for my sins, for they are many. In future i will take nothing to do with Leonard, for his guardian angels are so scathing on anyone who wishes to be obscure. The great man himself must be proud of the henchmen who morally patrol his newsgroups gassing anyone who is non Aryan. If it be thy will, i will go before....
So sorry for being an offence.................Georges

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Tue Sep 10, 2002 9:24 pm

Partisan,
Having something be lost on a person [me] has nothing to do with bypassing the obvious, i.e. the [your] opportunistic seizing of the chance to be deleterious in your remarks.

Definition I've previously given, a verbatim quote: Random House Webster's College Dictionary. The non-deleterious option shared by one preferring to take the high road.

George,
Keep sharing.

~Lizzytysh

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 3:54 am

I was rather hard on you.................Your right i'm going for the hit. Irrespective of the vowels and i do hope to get the next Kubla Khan.............if only by chance.
Ask your questions..............if you so desire.........I'm not that enigmatic
and i must emphisise................I mean this board no harm.............
Georges

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 3:57 am

Youre one of the most powerfull women i've mmet on cyberspace. Equal or more powerfull than others, i must hold ye in awe..............
Georges

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 4:29 am

Oh m'G..d, George

...how in the world am I supposed to respond to that! To say thank you would be to suggest that I agree, when I don't. "Personal power," if that's what you're referring to, doesn't have to do with being "powerful" in the typical sense, with all the connotations of "power struggle" or controlling/influencing the lives of others; but rather that internal space of not relinquishing one's internal self-control to the external control of others, i.e. their actions and words [externally] altering your [internal] course "against" your "will." Respecting your own personal rights as a person enters into that, as well. I don't know if I'm explaining it very well. I can't tell, from what you've said, which way you took it to mean. In terms of the latter, the years have brought [me] greater resolve. Thanks for your over-the-top compliment if you meant the latter. There are a number of women here and on the Board, as well as met elsewhere [one in particular I have in mind, still met in cyberspace], whom I admire greatly in that regard. It tends to be a "women's issues" thing, emergent from the chattel era, as well as from the discrimination and oppression realm[s].

~Lizzytysh

Throwaway comment · Post by **Throwaway comment** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 3:35 pm

Powerful

No

Delusional

Possibly

Megalomanic

Probably

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:05 pm

Thank you for your response, Throwaway.

It gave me the opportunity to add a little more, realizing I could be a little clearer in my post, as well as to reply to you now, with some additional info. When George wrote what he did, I had the option of saying something like, "Please talk to me about these kinds of things privately, Georges

" ~ or to do what I did and take the opportunity to clarify, or at least put into better context, a comment I had made elsewhere, and at least answer his post to the extent I feel it [realistically] has anything to do with me. It has nothing to do with powerful in its typical usage; it has nothing to do with delusional; it has nothing to do with megalomania. It has to do with respecting your own personhood, as well as respecting that of others. If you don't happen to understand what I'm talking about or the distinctions I'm making, that's okay, too.

~Lizzytysh

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:21 pm

Thanks for those thanks above. And sorry for deviating from your topic:-)
I was hoping for some kind of feedback about some question I made, like Isle Of Wight, is it recorded?
All good things
Tomislav

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:25 pm

It looks like you got everything but that!

Hopefully, someone will start fresh here with an answer to your question. I wish I had one. I'd have given it when you first asked.

Kush · Post by **Kush** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 8:31 pm

>>>>4) Isle Of Wight 31.8.1970 - they said it was complete recorded both in video and audio. Maybe that's only the legend.

Tom,
Are you talking a special LC concert or just the well-known Isle of Wight 1970 concert ? It is available in Amazon.com on audio and perhaps on video.
Search 'Message to Love: Isle of Wight Concert'. LC sings Suzanne on it.

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Sat Sep 14, 2002 3:50 am

Leonard is only on the DVD for a few seconds................but what a glorious time!!!!
Georges

johann · Post by **johann** » Sun Sep 15, 2002 7:34 am

Andrew,

I am glad you laughed at my joke. Where I am in Germany, as far as Leonard Cohen or a birthday celebration is concerned it is as silent as a tomb. None of the people around me listen to him.

Johann

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Sun Sep 15, 2002 12:43 pm

Thanks, Kush, I know about that. As George said, Leonard is only for few minutes there, singing Suzanne. There is also Tonight Will Be Fine on Live Songs. So: 1) Suzanne on official DVD, 2) Tonight Will Be Fine on official live album = my conclusion is that there must be full concert (complete festival) recorded in both audio and video, with complete Leonard's performance. I hope that Sony will release it one day. I don't care if the whole concert, or Cohen will manage to release only his part, I hope for the complete Leonard's gig.
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