Violet wrote:.. Jack.. can you write a secret poem that's kept in this thread's refrigerator?..
Gee I don't know but what I can do is suggest one by Leonard to use in the meantime.
Once during a concert he spoke a couple of poems that were quite simple. The first had to do with a kind of refrigerator. It was about one of those places where you go and the whole wall is a refrigerator and you pay your money and a little door would open to a compartment that contains food that you then take to a microwave oven. I think he called it the Automat poem. I forget most of it but I think it ended something like:
the peas are round
the plate is flat
I pray to God
to keep it like that
anyway, it wasn't very good but it set the tone for the next one which was a secret to be put in the refrigerator and kept for a time that it was needed. The poem went something like
They arrested me one time
for dancing with a broom
The judge he asked me
If I was the bride or groom
I thought for awhile
and then I spoke
I said "Judge
I don't have to listen
to that kind of joke"
Everything being said to you is true; Imagine of what it is true.
.. Jack.. the poem's slightly opaque, and should chill very nicely I think.. maybe I mean by that that you can't penetrate or melt it down too much with your mind..
.. I'm thinking now of having once seen Tom Waits, and he had this old 50's refrigerator on stage.. and he used the interior light from that, with the rest of the stage steeped in darkness.. As I recall, it was rather extra terrestrial seeming.. or do I mean extra textual?..
.. (maybe because of L.C.'s Eskimo reference, and that blizzard of ice) I just thought of lighting a thin green candle.. and so maybe we should have a room where all of our jealousies are stored.. The Jealousy Room.. and perhaps this room should be green.. with little built in alters to house all of the thin green candles we'll need to light..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iels3GLw-zs FULL SCREEN...
... (god, Leonard, you sex god, you.. drop by here any time.. you can light your little green candles all you want.. I won't mind -- christ, I'll help you)..
.. anyhoo.. I guess there's always sage and green tea for healing.. oh and green tea ice cream's my favorite.. we can keep it in Wait's refrigerator next to Leonard's poem... I don't think Leonard would mind, actually, given his affinity for ice cream -- I mean, Waits...
.. well if you (Jack) or any other visitor to this unusual textual house of ours has any jealousy poems or stories they'd like to get rid of.. now's the time... we'll be burning them later, along with the sage and the thin green candles.. oh wait.. the thin green candles are meant to cause jealousy... so I guess that's the first part of the ceremony, before we get all spiritual like and start our house "cleansing"..
.. 'til later,
v i o l e t (flower)
(staving off this envy
ivy)..
... I thought to make this small and chilled like ice.. for our fridge, that is.. (which is in the pantry, by the way.. on the way to the green room)..
They arrested me one time
for dancing with a broom
The judge he asked me
If I was the bride or groom
I thought for awhile
and then I spoke
I said "Judge
I don't have to listen
to that kind of joke"
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... oh.. I believe I have something for The Jealousy Room.. (oh, but before you do this one.. I added a little green jealous something up above)..
Actually, I've just decided that this is my answer to Leonard's jealousy number.. and I think Leonard is actually the one lover I can safely entertain in these parts (given Georges'ez extreme jealousy where I'm concerned)... (.. I mean, with Leonard.. even Georges understands..)...
.. oh, and speaking of Georges and jealousy.. a little birdie told me that Mr. Sirus might be back in town... hmm.. this room is getting greener by the minute methinks...
.. oh, on another topic, I'm hearing that Iranders and possibly Brits.. and who knows who else.. are having trouble accessing music on youtube due to copyright issues.. can anyone shed any light on this??.. it's sure to spoil my little fantasy world if it keeps up..
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If it is a chill you want then I think that a good healthy dose of mature jealousy is just the ticket. The bitter fact is that there are those who would take what rightfully belongs to you and also what rightfully belongs to your brothers and sisters. we should be MORE JEALOUS.
There are doctors, lawyers and priests who would have you think that the way you are experiencing love and life is something that you need to be cured of.
Violet wrote:... Jack, do you mean we should be jealously guarding our sanity or insanity, as the case may be?..
I guess I don't really know what others should do but I try as best I can to not make things any more uncomfortable for people who are finding out that things are a lot stranger than they have been told. I think we need all of our experiences and resent anyone being told that theirs are not of high importance and should be stopped. If I can provide some comfort I am glad to do so.
Who is anyone to tell another that they are insane? To that extent I would like a world where we jealously protect each other's dignity and their beautifully twisted minds as if they were our own.
Everything being said to you is true; Imagine of what it is true.
... I take this to mean that you seek to jealously defend my beautifully twisted mind, Jack, and I thank you for that (!)... maybe, in honor of green jealousy, I'll make you a nice southern key lime pie, which we can have in our greensy William Morrisy kitchen nook... as we light our thin green candles... and put Leonard poem cubes in our tea de menth... (Manna? I really don't know how to spell that one)...
.. gosh, I can see how I might be considered twisted, now that I really take this time to consider all this... (thanks for not making me feel too depressed about that)...
fondly,
a twisted v i o l e t t a (floweretta)
(jealously defending
Jack with her
baretta)...
menzie01 wrote:What's that A** hole? Can you explain it further?
That is the thing about an it, you can always explain them further because they aren't going anywhere. People on the other hand seem to be more like verbs.
If you are wanting to know if the question has been answered as to what exactly is an asshole the answer is no.
Everything being said to you is true; Imagine of what it is true.
fondly,
a twisted v i o l e t t a (floweretta)
(jealously defending
Jack with her
baretta
A violetta with a baretta !!!
Now that is getting in the way of my image of this garden path that I see. What do you need a baretta for? Are you planning on using it? Put it away. If you want to have this dream with me in it please go ahead and do so but sleep easily, as there is nothing in here worth stealing.
Everything being said to you is true; Imagine of what it is true.
.. well, Jack, the word baretta just popped into my head, and so I of course became violetta.. but aside from word sound reasons, the sentiment was that of guarding your own beautifully twisted mind.. Anyway, I can go back to being violet, or violette, and change the word to barrette, which, although quite a lovely way to style my long dark locks, doesn't quite conjure the lethal sense of protection my unconscious mind must have been searching for.. still, it is French.. and feminine.. (which takes us back to the screened in porch, as I recall).. and I'm sure if I had to use this barrette for protection, I could poke the bad guy in the eye pretty decidedly with it.. I might also be able to find a nice green barrette, while I'm at it...
.. you know, I haven't wanted to bring up the basement, but I think we also have to consider some writing that would go.. down there..
menzie01 wrote:What's that A** hole? Can you explain it further?
That is the thing about an it, you can always explain them further because they aren't going anywhere. People on the other hand seem to be more like verbs.
If you are wanting to know if the question has been answered as to what exactly is an asshole the answer is no.
okay I'll take a stab
A**hole - someone or something that is difficult to understand, that seems disagreeable or offensive to you and and who you may have a hard time seeing in a complete way.
Seeing somebody as an ass has more to do with your own perception and only being able to see a limited view of that individual (like the tip of an ice burg)
edited to remove something about looking a mirror which I think implied something completely different then what I was trying to say.
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Violet wrote:.
.. you know, I haven't wanted to bring up the basement, but I think we also have to consider some writing that would go.. down there..
Hi Violet
I don't mind going down below but I think it is time I ask you some questions. I do want to be sure that you know what you might be getting into. First I will let you know what my assumptions are and you can tell me if I am wrong.
I am thinking that Violet is not your real name and that you are posting here as Violet and that no one here knows who you are in your day to day life. I don't really care if you are also posting here also as someone else. What I need to know is if anyone knows who you are. Does anyone here know who you are except for you?
My patron saint is Queen Vashti and I have no desire to be involved in exposing anyone's nakedness in public other than my own. I don't think I will be the same kind of dance partner that you have enjoyed in the past here. When we go down below I will let you lead but I will be certainly pointing the way.
So if you are thinking of me taking a look at your basement give me an honest answer to my question and let me start a new thread called "What is a Violet?"
Everything being said to you is true; Imagine of what it is true.
... hmm.. I'm curious what brought this line of inquiry to the fore.. a few here know some things about me, including my real name, although those that do feel my posting name seems more appropriate for me somehow.. I've actually come to really like having the name violet, so it does seem to suit me.. I do not post as any other identities, and if you really wanted to try to understand me better, I've spoken on this topic in the past, as I used to be accused of being differing persons and sexes.. and now that I've been here for a while, I can see why people think this, given how this is not uncommon among posters.. although, the only one I personally know of doing this is mickey_one.. and he's no doubt well aware that those of us who know him know this about him.. (hi Lord M., by the way, please return to us, if you would)...
.. as I wrote on my profile, I'm an artist and a writer and a filmmaker, and I live and work in New York City.. I came here because I had been writing poetry for quite some time, and it had just been languishing in a drawer, so to speak.. and, given my long time love of and regard for Leonard, I thought there might be a fairly interesting readership here.. so.. that's what brought me here.. I also have never, with the exception of one article I wrote once on something more political in nature, interacted much with sites on the internet.. I don't blog, etc. So, as might be indicative of the Scottish part of my ancestry, I make certain alliances and friendships and tend to stick with them, and am loyal to them for life.. So.. I'm not spread thin all over the internet.. not even as an artist or a filmmaker.. So, this forum, and particularly this part of the forum, has sort of become my home away from home, which is an appropriate thing to say given what this thread has come to be about.. When I first started posting here, I had no idea as to the personalities here.. and you can watch my transformation from innocent poetry poster.. to rather adventuresome fiction writer on my Looking for a Sign thread.. which really got pretty wild in places, as I started to invent some fictional characters.. not to fool anyone, as it was all transparent what I was doing.. but as a way to do a kind of interactive kind of narrative fiction.. It was fun, but emotionally roller coastery for me, since I really didn't know anyone here, and it was all rather new and confusing.. Also, I was having some weirdness just writing poetry at that point.. I think it had to do with feeling this public exposure for my poetry for the first time, and also the interactive aspect here.. somehow it was playing on my psyche, and it became rather intense for me for a while...
Anyway, that's all I can think to say for now.. I have an analytical mind and a rather playful disposition and that actually might be an odd combination, but you can be the judge of that.. My poems for the most part were and are a very intimate outlet for me.. a way of conversing with my soul, as it were.. Colonial Suicide came as a kind of surprise.. it started on another thread when I started kissing.. as in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.. my now dear friend, Georges.. it's been fun trying to have a true romance with a lot of the other story lines incorporated into that, which would seem to present obstacles to such an idealized form of love.. I actually love what we've been doing with that.. it's been just so much fun, sexy.. and even touching and poignant.. oh, and discovering youtube and using it in our story was really a revelation for me...
.. so.. that should give you a better idea as to just who I "really" am.. oh, and of course I love Leonard.. and I'm sure that in some unconscious region in his brain cells, Leonard is quite aware of the fact that this purple little violet flower (who is, I would say, a truthful expression of her author) is happily devoted to him, and all the beauty he's bestowed on us..
... in all sincerity, Jack,
v i o l e t (by the way.. I know very little about you!)... xxx
Violet wrote:. hmm.. I'm curious what brought this line of inquiry to the fore.
Well I guess it was Cate's dock. When sitting on a dock and looking out over still water I usually notice that everything on the other side is reflected in the water and that seems to provide a wholeness for me showing that everything above has an equal amount below. Since you were in front of me I saw a violet on the water and saw that it must also have a below. Then you started talking about your basement.
I looked a bit through your past experience here on the forum. Yes it sure seemed like a roller coaster ride. Like the gal that got on her horse and rode off in every direction. Are you tired yet?
I know very little about you!).
I have been posting here and on another related group for about 14 years. Maybe I am the forum invalid, a bit boring but I have my moments. People here have been very kind to me. I had met dozens of them in person and they have stayed in my house, eaten with me , drank wine with me, swam with me, touched my scars, boated with me, met my family, laughed at my jokes and one has even danced with my mother. Many who visited, visited again and so I don't think I am totally boring or annoying.
I tend to be serious and so i don't get invited to a lot of parties, also I pray which might be a bit of a taboo around here. It doesn't get talked about much. It has been said that I am a very easy target and so people looking for easy targets usually find me. I also have a bit of false humility that gets people telling me "jack, you are not that bad" it's starting to wear thin and I don't know how long I can keep using it.
Everything being said to you is true; Imagine of what it is true.
