And what's with Central and South-Eastern Europe?

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I don 't want to discuss political and economic situation of Eastern and Central Europe, though now it has zeměbez Government .. just me just human sorry that I and other fans of Leonard never see you around :cry: .. for him to travel to Germany or even more expensive than it is of course to visit the concert in our country ... again fell like a iron curtain dividing Europe and the world. . Not ideologically, but economically .. and again, we probably found themselves among the "poorer" :?
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I simply don't buy into this economic thing as a reason.
Do what Van Morrison has done. Put 'your own show' on and take 70% of the profits.
If he can play to 2000 in Manchester (x4) he can certainly play to 10000 in Eastern Europe.
The profit won't be so large but so what......
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Zagreb, Croatia, this morning - 63.000 tickets for U2 at the football stadium sold in couple of hours (500 kunas - 80 Euros).
Now they're negotiating an extra show (U2 left free day after the original date).

So nevertheless the crisis, people in these countries are happy when somebody really important in music comes here (because it's very rare).

Hydriot, not our government's loans - most of foreign investments went to third sector. All banks, shops & chains (Lidl, Billa, Interspar etc.), cinemas, TV stations, newspapers and publishing industry, and complete internet and telecom industry, it's all now owned by foreign (multi)corporations. You have Deustche Telekom as owner of telecommunications, Styria as owner of newspapers etc. That's how it is from Serbia and Croatia and Bosnia up north to Poland.
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Tom,
talking to my soul! People here know how to appreciate when they come for the quality! Last year, the sports hall in Prague sold out in a few days :!: I believe that this would be, for example in neighboring Slovakia or the Balkans - Croatia, Slovenia and the like find enough people who would be willing to really good concert zaplatit.A also travel to the Balkans in the summer thousands of people on holiday, and certainly they would be willing to diversify, you leave .. ;-)
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Well my fellow Eastern Europeans, we know how it goes: the poor stay poor, the rich get rich...
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As Bob says,
'money don't talk it swears'

Under communism the music of artists like Dylan, Cohen etc kept the torch burning, and it would be great to see that faith rewarded.
However if Len and his advisors feel it is more fitting (i.e. read 'more profitable') to play at 350 euro dinners or at Mercedes World, or another trek round arenas there's little we can do.
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:( :( .. it is clear to me, only I 'm sorry that we have as "second-class people" .. what I have that come to Prague on Sunday, and by B. Obama speech in the public square in the Rudolfinum .. I would rather had to re-freezing throughout the body, to thrill every music from master Leonard :neutral:
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This will be good news for many who have posted messages in this thread:
Looks like things are moving to a direction many members in the East have been hoping...
Some gaps in the tour itinerary are being filled with a couple of cities that balance the European routing in a very nice way.
We will know more soon!
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Somebody was reading our writings here 8)
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Rodin wrote:Aren't we missing the point here?
An artist like Leonard is not going to lose money by e.g. playing a gig in Sofia or Istanbul. He will make less money than night after night in a richer country, but will enrich the lives of some poorer people.
Perhaps naive, but why can't the gigs in the richer nations 'subsidise' other gigs ?
Balls to exchange rates and economists, we've all seen where that has taken the world.
Let the artists fight back......

I agree with the idea of this.....but,the problem here is when an artist plays a less well off country they either charge so much that very few from the country in question can afford it and most tickets are bought by people from neighbouring better off countries,or else they charge a more reasonable price and people from better off countries go there because their getting such a bargin,either way the better off will take advantage

The Stones played China a few years ago after 30 years of trying to convince the authorites to allow them to,they charged the equivalent of months wages for your average Chinese worker!! the audience was apparently filled with Brittish ex-pats and tourists and businessmen and about 4 Chinamen :roll: .......not that Leonard would charge that much,but thats just the way a lot of these gigs work,i know people who travelled from here(Ireland)and the U.K to Croatia to a festival there last year because it was so cheap,it was cheaper to go all the way there than to go to Dublin for a festival......i know this is depressing for some to read but this is how it works nowadays
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:razz: :razz:
Jarkko,
Oh, thank you for the positive message! I just pray that the master visited Leonard and one of the countries in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Austria .. just where I come without substantial costs! In the summer of my birthday and this would be the most beautiful gift :) ... and it will be gift to all people in this part of Europe, who are still regarded as something less than people from more countries to the west. Thank you for this ... :!:
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To Tom Sakic:
You think? ;-) .. I do not believe that our writing to have an impact, but if so, then I just like and enjoy me! People in these countries are not so rich money but souls are usually strong and rich .. it must be strong people, toppling communist regimes usually without a shot :idea: ... and Leonardo means :neutral:
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Suzanne:
If Leonard plays Zagreb (or even Ljubljana), Tom and I will pay for you (or is it ex-yu) to get there :-) ... won't we Tom?
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If I get get a breast implant (x2) will you pay for me?
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Paul,
Are you serious? :shock: Thank you .. but I can not offer the same in the case of Prague ... my money would be sufficient for you to purchase tickets for a good dinner and a couple glasses :) ... But if you went on a trip to our small but beautiful country in the middle of Europe, so I invite you for a few days in the mountain area Jeseniky :!: ;-)
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