We Pass Into April As If Into A Colder Month

[Geoffrey]

sirus asked:
>Smoke the pipe of peace? Is that a code for a blow job?


No. I do not engage in coarse metaphor that belongs on a toilet wall.

[imaginary friend]

....................."I DON'T WANNA PLAY IN YOUR YARD IF YOU WON'T BE NICE TO ME"......................
....a drama rife with the strife caused by misunderstanding, misunderestimation* and snap judgements....
........................................* OK, I stole that one from Doublya............................................

.....................................................starring.............................................................

Poor VERN, (whose thread has been hijacked...)
in the role of THE POET

NEWS GAL, (who, has a slight tendency to culturally-profile other Forum members, once she knows where they're from...)
in the role of THE HEROINE

GEOFFREY, (who is very clever, but an incorrigible provocateur. Also a terminal show-off. (Antidisestablishmentarianism? haven't heard that one since the end of World War 2...)
in the role of THE ANTAGONISTIC OLD FART (or PHART if you prefer)

SUE, (who can be remarkably crushing for one who claims to make her living ironing...)
who has seized the opportunity of Geoffrey's rudeness to cast herself in the role of THE MEDIATOR

VIOLET (who is a good writer, and will probably keep these interesting (multiple) persona in mind for her next screenplay/romantic thread...)
in the role of THE SISTER OF MERCY

Reviewed by IMAGINARY FRIEND (who is actively cultivating a thicker skin and has this to say:)
'Beware of poem-bashing that can lead to personality misapprehensions that can result in cultural misunderstandings, but that don't make this junk...'

[Geoffrey]

Cate wrote:
>You've made a sweeping generalization of an entire population. You asked him where he was from and then threw it back at him - as in oh that explains it, people from where you're from think like this.... You even gave him cause and effect for why his people have an attitude that's 'sad to see'. The thing that surprised me about your statement was that I just saw you complaining about people bashing Americans.
>
>Okay, I'm not even going to quote what Geoffrey said, but holy Fuck. That's like decking someone who's just spilled a drink on you. Yes, words are just words and there are no bad words, it's how you use them and of course you all people understand that, that term is one meant to hurt and make others feel inferior (a guy with you lexicon hardly needs to resort to a cheap shot).
>
>You what really pisses me off, you have the talent and ability to say exactly what you think, and you come out with shit like that - me I'm trying very hard to say something and just comes out muddled.

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come to norway, i want to marry you

[Cate]

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come to norway, i want to marry you

Okay - but I'm bringing my two sons and a goat.

[News Gal]

It's pretty obvious I'm not welcome here. If you want to have a cheap laugh at my expense, fine. I won't be here to see it. Thanks for driving away another poster.

[imaginary friend]

come to norway, i want to marry you

Join the line (you already know most of the people in it) (smiley face in the hope of interjecting a little good humour ...)

[Cate]

Newsgirl - I've read your post and enjoyed them, you add value to this forum. A disagreement is not the same as not wanting you - at least I hope not because you wouldn't believe what my first husband said a few hours ago - but I'm pretty sure he still wants me here (umm in my home I mean)

[lizzytysh]

... including her two sons and her goat, with that first husband of hers.

Ey yi yi... do you have any idea, News Gal, how many smelly goats have tromped these pages and eaten words right along with the grass? Leave? Leave?? Surely, you jest.


~ Lizzy

[sirus]

I take it she won't be smoking the pipe of peace, then?

[Violet]

... I'm giving you a little imaginary slap, Mr. Sirus... you funny sexy nasty man, you...

v i o l e t (that's Sister of Mercy on her naughty side)...

[News Gal]

I'll try to give things another chance, but I'll be very wary from now on of many people.

Cate, what you call a generalization is part of the techniques I was taught in intercultural communication classes. Certain modes of thought DO mark a culture as a whole, and that recognizes some deviation from the norm which is a given--these terms are on average. I think I'm very misunderstood around here for that, and it isn't intended to offend, but intended to get people thinking outside their own little boxes. My interest in the way culture makes people think seems to have singled me out yet again. Let me explain why I find it so important:


Your culture controls everything you do, from when you wake up to when you go to bed and even what you dream about. That's why I'm adamant in knowing where people are from, because those experiences color the way they think. Understanding what makes peoples' minds work the way they do is what drives me in this case, but it bothers too many people who don't understand my rationale for doing it.

[Violet]

Hi N.G.,

I'm not sure your conclusion is entirely accurate...I do think most here are at least somewhat aware that their thinking is very much a product of cultural conditioning... certainly those interested in Leonard Cohen might be said to be, generally speaking, a bit outside of mainstream ideas, and so more self aware (one can hope)... so... I'd say you are in good company, and that it's just getting used to things around here, and getting a sense of the differing personalities, etc., that you're dealing with...

glad you'll try and stick around,

v i o l e t

[sirus]

v i - O- l et
we've barely talked, but I think I have sexual feelings for you...

just to let you know, I am truly serious.... I think you are smart, charming and quite humorous. Your posts make me smile…and your name is pretty cool as is your personality. Actually, you're quite the charmer. I am digging you my sweet sweet Vi-O- let... O- let..let…let me make you feel alive, you are the reasons why I hang out here on the Nick Cave board. You are the girl of my wet dreams, and frankly, I want to …. I want to … I want…. I want you vi-O-let.

[vern.silver]

News Gal,

I do have native heritage. My mother is Anishnabek.

I don't take much offence to Geoffrey. After reading many of his posts over the years especially in the politics thread he really has shown he hasn't much to say worth hearing - for me anyway. He can keep on blah-blahing all he wants.

I've worked as a prison guard for a great many years and am exposed to his ilk quite regularly. If you don't have a thick skin in that kind of work you don't survive.

As far as my 'poem' is concerned, like it or don't. At the end of the day it won't matter much in the scheme of things. And those such as Lizzytish who are aware of what my life has been like the past few months, well, they probably have a better understanding of where it is coming from.

As to 'we' or 'I' or 'you,' hey make your choice and live in your little dispirited hole. I won't climb down there with you.

Vern

[News Gal]

News Gal,

I do have native heritage. My mother is Anishnabek.

I don't take much offence to Geoffrey. After reading many of his posts over the years especially in the politics thread he really has shown he hasn't much to say worth hearing - for me anyway. He can keep on blah-blahing all he wants.

I've worked as a prison guard for a great many years and am exposed to his ilk quite regularly. If you don't have a thick skin in that kind of work you don't survive.

As far as my 'poem' is concerned, like it or don't. At the end of the day it won't matter much in the scheme of things. And those such as Lizzytish who are aware of what my life has been like the past few months, well, they probably have a better understanding of where it is coming from.

As to 'we' or 'I' or 'you,' hey make your choice and live in your little dispirited hole. I won't climb down there with you.

Vern

I liked it a lot actually. By putting your work here, it's open to a lot of things--and this thread is now why I probably won't ever put one up again LOL. Not worth it.

As for that last line of the comment, I'm not sure how to interpret that. If anything, I'm hardly dispirited--rather just misunderstood. A lack of effort to understand could very well make me leave this place, although I am giving it another go.