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woody
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new poems

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i know i dont write enough here to warrant feedback but i hope you enjoy at least one of them and i would love to know what any of you think. thanks, woody. :neutral:

Winter Haiku

The courtyard is quiet,
Urinating at midnight;
the moon is laughing.

Interrogators Lamp

So sad, to see the moon,
come calling at the curtains edge.
And you as you always used to be-
still soundless asleep in peace.

The lunar lamp lies waiting,
like the worlds watching weary glare.
The trained and tireless interrogators lamp;
Never too far, never too near.

Spring Came...

Spring came. With clothes of winter still
wrapped round me, I walk to the bus.
Growing craftier everyday
to a world on it's hinges.
The noise and wind work at the nerve,
I only have to look at my jacket
and I became melancholy.
I only have to speak of shoes and
I weep. The misunderstood nature
of conflict swallows the worlds truth
with dogs decorum for concern.
Working everyday wears at the
immunity like a pair of
shoes; you can repair the lace
and heel but when the sole gives out-
it's over.


Like A Stranger Bringing Bad News

Too many mornings dressing in darkness;
The heart heals over in woe, grows cold and dies,
like a tomb stone neglected in forgotten woods.
The courtyard birds leave the nest, the winter

world waits, driving its gloom like a widening
grin- broadening on the grass, like a strangers
shadow at the gate. Then crossing the lawn,
climbing the step and wrapping at the door.



Diving Bell

I stopped drinking and stopped arguing. I
stopped being round drunks who wanted to argue.
I kept to quiet rooms with people who cared.
My complaints didn't reach my face, merely
creased the brow like the residue of some
deep gastronomical pain. When they worsened,
I was taken to doctors, but didn't speak,

I just blinked. Nobody realised I
was beyond reach, somewhere cold, dark and deep.
Still the loved ones waited, waited for some
sign, waiting for the line to be tugged.


Tools

The worlds too full, I cannot talk.
I go and lie upon the grass,
with no thought of right or wrong, just
a child like dream of language.

I fumble in the dark and call
down the rusty old words of love,
and then venture into the light
to hunt you heart in the tall grass.


Jury Duty

Urinating at midnight, I
drown another fly in the bowl
then wash my hands and pass the hall.
Between clouds, the moon is signaling

the courtyard has fallen silent.
somewhere the cats stirs and
my heart beats beyond all reason.
I return to your side and await
the judgment of the moon and stars.



In The End

When the world ends, when there is only me
and there remains only a room like this
and a mirror much like this and
the incognizant pain of waking a thousand times
has shifted beyond the bones dull ache
to a deeper rigger mortise of the soul-
Then, when i cannot move-
in thought riddled nature-
Trumpets will finally sing and
crowds will gather and women
with flowers will bend down with purpose
and well wishers will measure my every word
for it's weigh of truth in gold
Then in my final feeble hell I will
fight them away and scream, “No!”
“Where were you.” I will say,
“Back when i was young
and still the strength to change?”
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Re: new poems

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Hi woody

I like bits of all of them and I really liked the beginning of The Diving Bell, which kind of grabs you. This is the one I liked best in fact but something seemed not quite right and then I realised it's the word 'gastronomical', which I think you are using to mean gastric or gastro/intestinal - some kind of pain located in the stomach area. Gastronomical does not mean that, gastronomy is the art of haute cuisine or fine dining and I didn't think this was the sense you wanted to convey. So you may need to find another word for the pain. I also very much liked the image at the end - the loved ones waiting for the line to be tugged.
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woody wrote: Winter Haiku

The courtyard is quiet,
Urinating at midnight;
the moon is laughing.
a cute, silly little image, but please un-haiku it. (haiku don't get titles, neither punctuation.) I like that the splash of pee might give sound effect to the moon. At least, that's what it was for me.
Interrogators Lamp

So sad, to see the moon,
come calling at the curtains edge.
And you as you always used to be-
still soundless asleep in peace.

The lunar lamp lies waiting,
like the worlds watching weary glare.
The trained and tireless interrogators lamp;
Never too far, never too near.
This is over-punctuated. (So was the last one.) It's weird that every line has its own alliteration. I find it distracting because by the end, it seems to be mostly about alliterative experimentation. Why the repetition of lamp in S2? I do really like L3. But can't make this work as a poem - here's the skeleton of this poem: sadness, nostalgia, peace, weary glare? (something unpleasant), interrogator? I just can't figure out what you're saying. Maybe I just don't know you well enough yet,hell, it's only the second poem I've ever read of your. Don't take me critstoo much to heart, especially when I'm just rambling, puzzling, and being hard on you.
Spring Came...

Spring came. With clothes of winter still
wrapped round me, I walk to the bus.
Growing craftier everyday
to a world on it's hinges.
The noise and wind work at the nerve,
I only have to look at my jacket
and I became melancholy.
I only have to speak of shoes and
I weep. The misunderstood nature
of conflict swallows the worlds truth
with dogs decorum for concern.
Working everyday wears at the
immunity like a pair of
shoes; you can repair the lace
and heel but when the sole gives out-
it's over.
Hey, this one is pretty good. You might tinker a bit with opening, just to find a few more poetic ways to say things. You're missing an apostrophe or two.

I guess I'll stop here for now. I may come back tmro, but no promises.
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Re: new poems

Post by woody »

thanks to you both. interesting responses.
thanks sue for pointing out the mistake :oops: id like to claim it as deliberate... but i can't and i feel quite stupid.
glad you like the rest of it though.
thank you manna as well. i appreciate your honesty. it's nice to have someone genuinely let you know what they think even if it is a bit deflating.
i agree the haiku is fairly silly- but then getting up to pee and catching your reflection in the mirror on the way back is often a ridiculous experience. least it is for me. i didn't really understand why you felt so strongly to un-haiku it though? i agree about the titles but not the punctuation? i don't say it's anything great- far from it- but it does hit allot of the parameters of the haiku- length and syllables, reference to natural things and the juxtaposition of mood between the first two lines and last. hitting the recognised parameters unlike the majority of most western haiku i have read. i hate to put labels and rules to any of these things I'm just interested by your request is all.
i agree about the interrogators lamp. it's not good. it's an experiment that went hay-wirer. and thanks for the comments on the spring poem.
again thanks for the response. you can spend so much time doing these things by yourself it's very hard to tell the good moments from the bad. for me that is the hardest thing about writing.
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Post by Cate »

Hi Woody

I enjoyed reading your collection of poems. I like a great deal of what you’ve written. I’m afraid that I can’t offer much in the way of constructive criticism – I’m still getting my bearings myself. It’s a good thing when people take the time to offer feedback. Their criticism can be a great learning tool and shows that your poem has interested them in the first place.

These are my favorites.
Jury Duty

Urinating at midnight, I
drown another fly in the bowl
then wash my hands and pass the hall.
Between clouds, the moon is signaling

the courtyard has fallen silent.
somewhere the cats stirs and
my heart beats beyond all reason.
I return to your side and await
the judgment of the moon and stars.

The images are strong, I feel like I’m part of this moment.
These line in particular stand out for me.

"somewhere the cats stirs and
my heart beats beyond all reason."

Tools

The worlds too full, I cannot talk.
I go and lie upon the grass,
with no thought of right or wrong, just
a child like dream of language.

I fumble in the dark and call
down the rusty old words of love,
and then venture into the light
to hunt you heart in the tall grass.
I think this is a very strong piece as well. It makes me think of those years when you’re not a child but you don’t fell like an adult either.
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Re: new poems

Post by Manna »

Hello, again.
i agree the haiku is fairly silly- but then getting up to pee and catching your reflection in the mirror on the way back is often a ridiculous experience. least it is for me. i didn't really understand why you felt so strongly to un-haiku it though? i agree about the titles but not the punctuation? i don't say it's anything great- far from it- but it does hit allot of the parameters of the haiku- length and syllables, reference to natural things and the juxtaposition of mood between the first two lines and last. hitting the recognized parameters unlike the majority of most western haiku i have read. i hate to put labels and rules to any of these things I'm just interested by your request is all.
and
Winter Haiku

The courtyard is quiet,
Urinating at midnight;
the moon is laughing.
I don't see a connection between what is written in the poem and "catching your reflection in the mirror on the way back." Is that what is going on in this piece? If I include the title, it sounds to me like you woke one winter night, and went outside to have a whiz. It was quiet, then you heard your sprinkle tinkle as you looked at the moon, and the situation led to personification of the moon. Now, why you would go outside to have a whiz in the middle of a winter night is a bit beyond me, but some people like the cold that way. It also reads a bit like it is the courtyard that is urinating at midnight, which is kind of interesting. A quiet rain, maybe.

I guess I just don't feel the haiku-iness of this. I expect haiku to be a metaphor. If you take out the punctuation for this piece, do you lose anything at all? Haiku don't get punctuation. Anyway, several haiku aesthetics are available, and it isn't for me to tell you what is and what isn't haiku. I should get over my knee-jerk reaction to roll my eyes at nearly every attempt at haiku I see.

Manna

ps. I liked Tools too.
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Re: new poems

Post by woody »

i was looking back at some of my old posts and realised that i very rudely forgot to thank both manna and cat for their responses to some old poems of mine. looking back a year on, it's refreshing to read these poems again and like some and dislike others.

thanks again manna for your constructive advice, always very helpful. it's funny i remember writing that haiku with a clear image in my head ( i was getting up at midnight and walking to the bathroom, looking down on the courtyard and then seeing myself in the mirror when i returned to bed.) i realise now i barely communicated any of this and it sounds more as you described. i don't urinate outside at night, though i too can see the appeal of this.
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