I Wonder Why
The truth I know
Can set me free
I close my eyes
And can not see
I wonder why
I still deny.
I wonder why
My time, I waste,
What there is left
I take a taste
I make my bet
I wonder why
I still deny.
I wonder why
Every time
I turn an inch
A thorn will pierce
A thorn will pinch
I wonder why
I still deny.
I wonder why
Some friends were there
And they came back
To lead me where
There is no crack
I wonder why
I still deny.
I wonder why
The spell will break
I know not when
I will awake
I'll sleep 'till then
I wonder why
I still deny.
I wonder why
Sean
I Wonder Why
I Wonder Why
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If you don't become the ocean you will be seasick every day....Jikan (aka Leonard Cohen)
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
-
Diane
Re: I Wonder Why
What was the fruit of your wondering, Sean?
Re: I Wonder Why
Hi Diane
The short answer is 'Attachment to samsara'.
The long answer I am still working on. When I have it well enough formulated I will PM you.
Sean
The short answer is 'Attachment to samsara'.
The long answer I am still working on. When I have it well enough formulated I will PM you.
Sean
If you don't become the ocean you will be seasick every day....Jikan (aka Leonard Cohen)
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
Re: I Wonder Why
Hi Sean
Nicely done - I have to admit that I needed the word samsara (which I googled) to understand what you were talking about.
I noticed you asked Steven what style of poetry this is - I don't know the answer, but it does seem to suit you well.
Cate
Nicely done - I have to admit that I needed the word samsara (which I googled) to understand what you were talking about.
I noticed you asked Steven what style of poetry this is - I don't know the answer, but it does seem to suit you well.
Cate
Re: I Wonder Why
Hi Cate
Thanks for the kind words
Nice to bump into you again
I googled too to find out what kind of style that poetry is and it is 'Freestyle'.... I think I learned that 44 year ago.
I am wondering what the difference is between freestyle and narration... I think freestyle poetry just breaks all (nearly all) of the conventions and that is what attracts me to it. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
I am happiest
when I feel myself
extricated
liberated
from the tiniest tentacles
of convention
See,
I just smashed
the above paragraph
with my hammer
of rebelliousness
and converted
narrative
to poem
AGT
Sean
I forgot a few verses that I wrote with that piece (I Wonder Why)..so I will add them.
Thanks for the kind words
Nice to bump into you again
I googled too to find out what kind of style that poetry is and it is 'Freestyle'.... I think I learned that 44 year ago.
I am wondering what the difference is between freestyle and narration... I think freestyle poetry just breaks all (nearly all) of the conventions and that is what attracts me to it. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
I am happiest
when I feel myself
extricated
liberated
from the tiniest tentacles
of convention
See,
I just smashed
the above paragraph
with my hammer
of rebelliousness
and converted
narrative
to poem
AGT
Sean
I forgot a few verses that I wrote with that piece (I Wonder Why)..so I will add them.
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If you don't become the ocean you will be seasick every day....Jikan (aka Leonard Cohen)
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
Re: I Wonder Why
BUMP - blah blah blah - BUMP
Always nice to bump into someone I like - It's been a while.
Freestyle - okay makes sense
BTW what does - AGT stand for?
Cate
Always nice to bump into someone I like - It's been a while.
Freestyle - okay makes sense
BTW what does - AGT stand for?
Cate
Re: I Wonder Why
Daka.I wonder why
I still deny.
I wonder why
Answer: Reason.
Reason belongs to the world of the opposites (samsara) and needs to look both ways in order to be true to itself.
The awakening you long for is other than reason.
A rational mind will always allow for doubt (as it must, to be rational).
An intuitively mystical mind does not rationalize; it belongs to "inspiration", inner-tuition/intuition.
Therefore sages like Plato call it "Divine madness"
Plato also lumps "love" in the same basket.
Try to rationalize "love".???
It is odd to think that the more we reason (world of the opposites) the further we stray from that moment of awakening we deeply seek.
Maybe that is why your Zen brothers/sisters play with paradox?
Doubt is healthy.
The mystic, I suspect, is found somewhere else. (beyond doubt..beyond reason; just a step in the hallway, or two)
matj
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"Without light or guide, save that which burned in my heart." San Juan de la Cruz.
Re: I Wonder Why
"I noticed you asked Steven what style of poetry this is - I don't know the answer, but it does seem to suit you well." -- Cate
Hi Cate and Sean,
Actually, it was to Sue that this question was asked. I didn't want to be rude in
responding to something I wasn't asked about, so I didn't. But, I'll risk doing so,
though its already been arrived at. I'm not skillful enough, to my knowledge,
to follow any formal styles. Freestyle or freeform is probably right and
it's, maybe, what I use because I'm not schooled in the formal stuff. Charles Bukowski
said something to the effect of "When the spirit is weak form appears." This
was the effect of what he said and may not be an exact quote. I wonder about
that kind of thing. There are lots of arts that carry very nice spirit within the
confines of form and perhaps it is the skillful use of form that turns confines
into the means of expansiveness, in the right hands and applications. I don't
know. I'm a novice at this and lots of other stuff. But, I do think about this.
Hi Cate and Sean,
Actually, it was to Sue that this question was asked. I didn't want to be rude in
responding to something I wasn't asked about, so I didn't. But, I'll risk doing so,
though its already been arrived at. I'm not skillful enough, to my knowledge,
to follow any formal styles. Freestyle or freeform is probably right and
it's, maybe, what I use because I'm not schooled in the formal stuff. Charles Bukowski
said something to the effect of "When the spirit is weak form appears." This
was the effect of what he said and may not be an exact quote. I wonder about
that kind of thing. There are lots of arts that carry very nice spirit within the
confines of form and perhaps it is the skillful use of form that turns confines
into the means of expansiveness, in the right hands and applications. I don't
know. I'm a novice at this and lots of other stuff. But, I do think about this.
Re: I Wonder Why
Hi CateCate wrote:BUMP - blah blah blah - BUMP
Always nice to bump into someone I like - It's been a while.
Freestyle - okay makes sense
BTW what does - AGT stand for?
Cate
bump bump
AGT ... I used 'all good things' in a poem once and Liz pointed out that it was a signature of Leonard's, also used by John E. From then on I have used it as an acronym 'AGT' being somewhat lazy. It is like saying 'best wishes', but has it's own slightly expanded or more vast implication to my mind.
AGT
Sean
If you don't become the ocean you will be seasick every day....Jikan (aka Leonard Cohen)
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
Re: I Wonder Why
Yes 'Reason' is necessary
But it leads one to
A place where reason is no longer
Needed
The destination is the realization
That there is no difference between
Samsara and Nirvana
Then Reason and
Discrimination
Disappear
Today I found the 'long answer' to Diane's question in Leonard's lyrics to
"Here it Is"
(Here it is)
Ebm
(Here is your crown)
(And your seal and rings)
(And here is your love)
(For all things)
Ebm
Here is your cart
And your cardboard and piss
And here is your love
For all of this
Abm
May everyone live
Bbm7 Ebm
May everyone die
Abm
Hello, my love
Bb7 Ebm
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(Here is your wine)
(And your drunken fall)
(And here is your love)
(Your love for it all)
Here is your sickness
Your bed and your pan
And here is your love
For the woman, the man
May everyone live
May everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(And here is the night)
(The night has begun)
(And here is your death)
(In the heart of your son)
And here is the dawn
Until death do us part
And here is your death
In your daughter's heart
May everyone live
And may everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(And may everyone live)
(May everyone die)
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(And here you are hurried)
(And here you are gone)
(And here is the love)
(It's all built upon)
Here is your cross
Your nails and your hill
And here is the love
That lists where it will
May everyone live
And may everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
And may everyone live
And may everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I REALLY like this song, and am trying hard to learn to play it. The chord changes are so simple that for me it is difficult.... (invisible obstacles)
This is about as dark as Leonard can get!!!!
AGT
Sean
But it leads one to
A place where reason is no longer
Needed
The destination is the realization
That there is no difference between
Samsara and Nirvana
Then Reason and
Discrimination
Disappear
Today I found the 'long answer' to Diane's question in Leonard's lyrics to
"Here it Is"
(Here it is)
Ebm
(Here is your crown)
(And your seal and rings)
(And here is your love)
(For all things)
Ebm
Here is your cart
And your cardboard and piss
And here is your love
For all of this
Abm
May everyone live
Bbm7 Ebm
May everyone die
Abm
Hello, my love
Bb7 Ebm
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(Here is your wine)
(And your drunken fall)
(And here is your love)
(Your love for it all)
Here is your sickness
Your bed and your pan
And here is your love
For the woman, the man
May everyone live
May everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(And here is the night)
(The night has begun)
(And here is your death)
(In the heart of your son)
And here is the dawn
Until death do us part
And here is your death
In your daughter's heart
May everyone live
And may everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(And may everyone live)
(May everyone die)
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(And here you are hurried)
(And here you are gone)
(And here is the love)
(It's all built upon)
Here is your cross
Your nails and your hill
And here is the love
That lists where it will
May everyone live
And may everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
And may everyone live
And may everyone die
Hello, my love
And my love, Goodbye
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
(Here it is)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I REALLY like this song, and am trying hard to learn to play it. The chord changes are so simple that for me it is difficult.... (invisible obstacles)
This is about as dark as Leonard can get!!!!
AGT
Sean
If you don't become the ocean you will be seasick every day....Jikan (aka Leonard Cohen)
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
It's comin' from the feel that this ain't exactly real, or it's real, but it ain't exactly there! . Jikan
-
Diane
Re: I Wonder Why
Wow. It's funny, I always skip over this song, because I don't like the 'cardboard and piss' line (daft reason). I haven't even read this song before today. I just now read it many times. What an incredible song about acceptance, to rival If It Be Your Will. Sometimes things are really crap but here is your love even for This. Great that you found your answer from LC, Sean.