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Thank you for your kind words, Lizzytysh.
But despite your encouragements, there are at least two things I'm useless at: writing poetry in English and being able to understand Mornington Crescent's rules. It's far beyond my skills.
But despite your encouragements, there are at least two things I'm useless at: writing poetry in English and being able to understand Mornington Crescent's rules. It's far beyond my skills.

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From where does Basque originate, Bilbao?
LOL ~ Actually, it's beneath your skills
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As for poetry in English, a friend of mine told me a great story how subsequent to a breakup with a lover, he went to another town [where he'd never been before] for a week[?], where he could see faces and things he'd never seen before; went without eating; wrote poetry in French; and maybe one or a couple other things ~ all engineered toward forcing himself into another perspective. I thought it was classic. It apparently worked, too. When he returned, he felt much better. If I have some details wrong on it, they're not major [I don't think, anyway
].
With your language experience to date, and what I'm seeing, you could sure try......maybe a little of each, but condensed into one poem.....make it not quite so daunting for you
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LOL ~ Actually, it's beneath your skills

As for poetry in English, a friend of mine told me a great story how subsequent to a breakup with a lover, he went to another town [where he'd never been before] for a week[?], where he could see faces and things he'd never seen before; went without eating; wrote poetry in French; and maybe one or a couple other things ~ all engineered toward forcing himself into another perspective. I thought it was classic. It apparently worked, too. When he returned, he felt much better. If I have some details wrong on it, they're not major [I don't think, anyway

With your language experience to date, and what I'm seeing, you could sure try......maybe a little of each, but condensed into one poem.....make it not quite so daunting for you

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Lyzzytish wrote:>>> From where does Basque originate, Bilbao? >>
Wish I had an answer to that question! I'd be rich and famous!!
Well, it seems that we've been a pretty stubborn people and that we've been around for quite a long time. In fact, we've been right here at least since the Cromagnons got rid of the Neanderthals. And long before the pre-indoeuropean invasions came to the continent and Julius Caesar even thought about conquering that rainy island over the Channel. The Basque is the oldest living language in Europe, but no one knows for certain whether it came from abroad, along with an early and forgotten invasion, or if it was originated "in loco".
Anyway, you can find a more info at http://www.euskadi.net/euskara/indicei_i.htm if you're still interested.
And as for the way your friend chose to get started in poetry, well, I'd rather keep my lover with me and visit other countries just on holidays. Poetry can wait....
Tom D.Stiller wrote: >>>And I can well imagine reading with pleasure a Haiku you wrote. >>>
Oh no, Tom, you can't... It'd be dreadful and you'd regret it for the rest of your life!! Shakespeare would return from his grave just to kick my ...errr...bottom end? (How would Lenny said this?)
I can't play the piano, I'm a dead loss at maths, I can't dance properly and I can't produce any kind of poetry in English, and that's final! One has to know his/her own limits. Sadly enough, as life goes on, the list of the "can't"s happen to grow much faster than the "can"s one.
Wish I had an answer to that question! I'd be rich and famous!!
Well, it seems that we've been a pretty stubborn people and that we've been around for quite a long time. In fact, we've been right here at least since the Cromagnons got rid of the Neanderthals. And long before the pre-indoeuropean invasions came to the continent and Julius Caesar even thought about conquering that rainy island over the Channel. The Basque is the oldest living language in Europe, but no one knows for certain whether it came from abroad, along with an early and forgotten invasion, or if it was originated "in loco".
Anyway, you can find a more info at http://www.euskadi.net/euskara/indicei_i.htm if you're still interested.
And as for the way your friend chose to get started in poetry, well, I'd rather keep my lover with me and visit other countries just on holidays. Poetry can wait....

Tom D.Stiller wrote: >>>And I can well imagine reading with pleasure a Haiku you wrote. >>>
Oh no, Tom, you can't... It'd be dreadful and you'd regret it for the rest of your life!! Shakespeare would return from his grave just to kick my ...errr...bottom end? (How would Lenny said this?)

I can't play the piano, I'm a dead loss at maths, I can't dance properly and I can't produce any kind of poetry in English, and that's final! One has to know his/her own limits. Sadly enough, as life goes on, the list of the "can't"s happen to grow much faster than the "can"s one.

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Kaixo (Shwmae) John, and eskerrik asko (thanks a lot)John the Shorts wrote:Shwmae Bilbao,
Welcome to the forum.
Basque courses, 1st level. Quid pro quo, Dr. Lecter.

[quote="I think the time to worry is when you start transferring from the Can list to the Can't

You're dead right here!
And I may add that you're growning older -and surely bitter-- when you start a sentence saying "Sometime ago I did/said/met..." or whatever, and you realize that actually it was years ago.
Anyway, let's rejoice! We can at least recall that it really happened years ago. The time to feel really worried begins when you can't rememeber at all what you did, when you did it and --that's capital-- to whom you did it...

How interesting, Bilbao! Shakespeare won't down you for your haikus, though he may get a bit dispossessed on the sonnets. However, my friend didn't get started in poetry that way. He was already well into it, just took a sidetrip into combining poetry and French while he was doing everything else out of context. I thought it was a marvelous idea! However, he, you, and I would rather have kept the lover and let at least that particular poem go! What other languages does Basque most resemble? In the sense that French and Spanish do. English and German do. English and Brit do
. Beyond that, I promise I'll go to the site for further questions.
~ Lizzy

~ Lizzy
To none of them, Lizzy. It's much older than English, German, and even Latin.lizzytysh wrote: What other languages does Basque most resemble? In the sense that French and Spanish do. English and German do. English and Brit do
If linguists could have found any ressemblances, it would have been easy to track down its origins, and they haven't any clue. It's still a mistery.
BTW, are you sure that American and English are the same language?

Lizzytysh,
I've noticed that the English section of the link I sent you doesn't work properly.
So you'd better try at http://www.eirelink.com/alanking/basquep.htm or at http://www.cd.sc.ehu.es/DOCS/book.SS-G/v2/Euskara.html
Hope this works
I've noticed that the English section of the link I sent you doesn't work properly.
So you'd better try at http://www.eirelink.com/alanking/basquep.htm or at http://www.cd.sc.ehu.es/DOCS/book.SS-G/v2/Euskara.html
Hope this works