melancholic...
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:09 pm
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Is L Cohen melancholic? (I want to hear you first....)Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:56 pm
Hello from Chile!!
I don´t think he is melancholic at all...
I don´t think he is melancholic at all...
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 9:37 pm
I like this new look but having a feeling this post is not going to show up where I want it to.
Any how, I am responding to, Is Leonard Melancholic? I don't think he is now but I get the feeling from his songs that he has been there. His music has a healing, soothing quality about it, that tells you I know what it is like. His songs never depress me they have the opposite affect. I do not understand the comment someone made about selling razor blades with his songs at all.
Any how, I am responding to, Is Leonard Melancholic? I don't think he is now but I get the feeling from his songs that he has been there. His music has a healing, soothing quality about it, that tells you I know what it is like. His songs never depress me they have the opposite affect. I do not understand the comment someone made about selling razor blades with his songs at all.
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:48 pm
Hi Sandra,
Some of Leonard's albums could certainly leave a listener feeling melancholic, especially the early ones. I think the songs themselves cover a wide range of emotions, and the overall effect of the later albums (with the notable exception of 'The Future') is much more mellow/accepting. I think that the common view of Leonard's music as 'music to slit your wrists by' is one largely held by those who have never taken the trouble to really listen to his songs.
Some of Leonard's albums could certainly leave a listener feeling melancholic, especially the early ones. I think the songs themselves cover a wide range of emotions, and the overall effect of the later albums (with the notable exception of 'The Future') is much more mellow/accepting. I think that the common view of Leonard's music as 'music to slit your wrists by' is one largely held by those who have never taken the trouble to really listen to his songs.
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:50 am
I see I posted as guest before, so I must have done something wrong. Love those emoticons!!!
What is LC's darkest song? I must not have heard it yet.
What is LC's darkest song? I must not have heard it yet.
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 1:10 am
I wanted to hear your comments....thank you, I apologize if my english is not quite perfect...it is my esl
I made the question because I have read some opinions about L Cohen´s melancholic songs, but I don´t agree with that opinions.
I think he has a very rich inner life and strength that opposite to what they say , fills his life with joy and I feel it. Besides a real artist can give different emotions and does not mean he himself is WHAT HE SINGS
It is interesting to notice that some people get sad with quiet soothing music. But that does not come from the music or the person that sings but perhaps from themselves. from their lack of joy or ...I don´know .....any other reason that perhaps a sicologist may say....
I made the question because I have read some opinions about L Cohen´s melancholic songs, but I don´t agree with that opinions.
I think he has a very rich inner life and strength that opposite to what they say , fills his life with joy and I feel it. Besides a real artist can give different emotions and does not mean he himself is WHAT HE SINGS
It is interesting to notice that some people get sad with quiet soothing music. But that does not come from the music or the person that sings but perhaps from themselves. from their lack of joy or ...I don´know .....any other reason that perhaps a sicologist may say....
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:10 am
He is not melancolic.
He is, or at least he used to be, manic-depressive.
He is, or at least he used to be, manic-depressive.
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 1:25 am
I think 'used to be' is the operative phrase there, Dem. He seems to have finally 'grown out of it'. There's nothing either manic or depressive about Ten New Songs.
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 4:16 am
What's wrong with 'melancholic', 'manic-depressive' etc etc . ? Some of the finest works of art have come from such a state of mind. I think LC is slipping.....he should get back to manic-depressive !! TNS is certainly very melancholic and probably just a little bit depressive.
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 4:25 am
Hi Kush.....Interesting perspective.
I'd say what's "wrong," with those states of mind and being, is having to live inside them. Perpetuating them for the sake of art seems an inadequate trade-off, at best, to me.
As Leonard slips into both highly- and deeply-deserved bliss, I wish him joy, G..dspeed, and the best of all that lies beyond the prisons of manic-depression.
Lizzytysh
I'd say what's "wrong," with those states of mind and being, is having to live inside them. Perpetuating them for the sake of art seems an inadequate trade-off, at best, to me.
As Leonard slips into both highly- and deeply-deserved bliss, I wish him joy, G..dspeed, and the best of all that lies beyond the prisons of manic-depression.
Lizzytysh
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:05 am
Point taken, Lizzytysh
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:13 am
Dear Kush
After shutting down my computer, to prepare for bed, this weighed on me heavily to the extent that I came back in just now, intending to Edit my response, to include that you're making some pretty frivolous comments regarding very serious issues. I felt the need to still say that [but will do it here, to respect your acknowledgement] simply because it's not the first time I've seen people make light of this aspect of Leonard....which includes many others afflicted by it, as well.
Thank you for your own immediate, non-defensive, and genuine response.
Lizzytysh
After shutting down my computer, to prepare for bed, this weighed on me heavily to the extent that I came back in just now, intending to Edit my response, to include that you're making some pretty frivolous comments regarding very serious issues. I felt the need to still say that [but will do it here, to respect your acknowledgement] simply because it's not the first time I've seen people make light of this aspect of Leonard....which includes many others afflicted by it, as well.
Thank you for your own immediate, non-defensive, and genuine response.
Lizzytysh
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:15 am
To linmag: Yes, you are right.
As we had the chance to hear in the interview with Stina (video) on Hydra Leonard himself said, when he was asked about his depression,
"It has lifted"-he has repeated that in other interviews as well.
To Kush:Nothing is wrong with "melancholic" or "manic-depression" states.
I mean for the others, not for the person that is suffering from them.
Dem
As we had the chance to hear in the interview with Stina (video) on Hydra Leonard himself said, when he was asked about his depression,
"It has lifted"-he has repeated that in other interviews as well.
To Kush:Nothing is wrong with "melancholic" or "manic-depression" states.
I mean for the others, not for the person that is suffering from them.
Dem
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 4:12 pm
To Lizzytysh & Dem,
You are partially right to the extent that I did mean that to be a flippant remark....and no apologies for it, only an acknowledgment.
On the other hand, I was more specifically refererring to the product rather than the person.
Cheers
You are partially right to the extent that I did mean that to be a flippant remark....and no apologies for it, only an acknowledgment.
On the other hand, I was more specifically refererring to the product rather than the person.
Cheers
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 6:44 pm
Was Leonard manic- depressive or had problems with depression? In reading somewhere he had said that the depression got better with age, those brain cell die off.