Leonard was spectacular in the interview. Witty, aware, alive, beloved.

Yes

~ Great summation, Christine

.
I could understand Leonard's not pursuing it and diverting to their Tennessee connection; yet, I was sympathetic to Al Gore's making a connection to Leonard's words regarding the heart. This man has made it a point to find the evidence, the proofs, of a world disappearing... we all hear more about it every day... it's a topic of immersion for him. He will connect to anything he can to try to make it real and believable for people and to still convey the sense of hope that makes action the outcome. He's correct, too, that it's of the urgency to where, if we literally wait until... then, it will be too late. We're barely on the edge of its being that now.
It seemed that he may have been contradicting the veracity of Leonard's position on how change occurs; yet, what Leonard was speaking of was true in those areas of life where extinction isn't the outcome, where there is still time for correction, acceptance, or change. There had to be some kind of shift made to bring the comments of these two men together. Al used Leonard's own words to reach out to Leonard and whoever else was watching... and if he doesn't hold to the fact that the heart
can change in a fundamental way, then he's lost. Time is of the essence and he couldn't ignore that, either. It was one last plug for his all-life-saving mission. I thought Leonard handled it well.
I loved Leonard's wit regarding money and how if you don't watch it, it will disappear... and how he's become convinced of that

. This was such a [non-monetarily

] rich interview in so many ways. Here's the excerpt relating to this and other items. I hope I have it all correct, as the taping is still stopping and when I coax it forward, I miss some. Then, I go backwards to try to catch up with everything, but it's not all working tonight. So, here are some excerpts:
Leonard said about Anjani:
"I depended on that voice... I leaned on ~
I slept on ~ that voice...

. . . it was an affectionate story for a long time, and it ripened into something deeper . . . "

sweet and beautiful
After Anjani had described their life together as really quite ordinary, commenting that it's fun and that Leonard's a good cook; Leonard was asked about his life on Mt. Baldy and in responding to that, he commented that while he was up there, he was a cook. Anjani laughed and then, still laughing, turned to the host and said, "I told ya... " and everyone else laughed.
Not long after, the host continued:
Host [H]: "When you came out of this monastery... all your money was gone."
LC: "That's right... that's a pesky little detail."
H: "And, we're speaking millions of dollars here."
LC: "Yes, that's right."
H: "What happened?"
LC: "Well, it was just pilfered, you know... money has a way of disappearing, if you don't watch it very very closely... that's a certain wisdom that I acquired... I wasn't absolutely certain of this, but now I am... " [enthused applause]... "So it's enough to put a dent in your mood... "
H: "You had a manager and she disappeared with all your money?"
LC: "More or less, that's the story, yes."
H: "And you still don't have much money."
LC: "No, not too much. No... no."
H: "But you seem quite happy with it."
LC: "Yeah... [laughing and nodding] Well, you know, I mean I don't recommend this as a spiritual exercise. But if it does happen to you, a lot of very important information is delivered to your heart. For instance, I think that every parent would wait for this to happen. My son said to me... he said, 'Dad, do whatever you have to do on the legal side to take care of the situation... but don't worry about us. We've had a good life and we can take care of ourselves. So, much wonderful information came my way."
I know that some here rely on libraries and cafes for Internet access, so some may be unable to listen via the links, for lack of time or whatever... so this was a little bit of this delightful interview.
And... Roshi is going to be 100 in a couple of days

. A momentous occasion that I'm delighted Leonard and Roshi are going to be able to share

.
Now... I WANT ANJANI!!! Is it possible for you to isolate her performance out from your link, Phil, and bring it here separately? It's simply not on the link as I view the screen... the horizontal timer runs out and that's it. The screen goes black and the timer auto-reverts to the beginning.
< *this is too early for me to be up on a Saturday morning... I need to go back to bed... or get ready for my day and for listening to Leonard and Anjani perform in Poland ~ I pray to hear them* >
~ Lizzy