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Can someone send me the 1967 studio out takes
I have them but missing a few such as Nancy

Phillip

phillip wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:37 pm Can someone re send me the 1967 studio outtakes seem to be Missing Nancy etc

Phil

phillip wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:33 pm Can anyone resend me the 1967 studio outtakes

phillip wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:39 pm Can someone send me the 1967 studio out takes
I have them but missing a few such as Nancy

Phillip

i hope someone can help you, phillip. being a completionist can be tough, but the harder it is to complete a set the more rewarding when eventually succeeding. the psychology behind a need to collect everything in one particular field is well known and documented, so no need to go into specifics here and now - but i do feel fortunate at having escaped such an addiction. don't be disheartened if no one here is willing to help you; just remember the pleasure is in the hunt. good luck

Got.the songs thanks

phillip wrote:
>I got the songs, thanks!

wonderful, phillip. my heart rejoiced at this news. this just shows how a person's determination can result in a happy conclusion. there are always helpful people around who will assist someone in need; one just has to find them. the only down side is that now you have completed your mission you are left with one less goal to concentrate upon - but don't lose heart. other searching opportunities will surely present themselves in the future and once again your existence will have a purpose. meanwhile, well done for achieving success this time around, and please accept my warmest congratulations

Geoffrey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:59 am phillip wrote:
>I got the songs, thanks!

wonderful, phillip. my heart rejoiced at this news. this just shows how a person's determination can result in a happy conclusion. there are always helpful people around who will assist someone in need; one just has to find them. the only down side is that now you have completed your mission you are left with one less goal to concentrate upon - but don't lose heart. other searching opportunities will surely present themselves in the future and once again your existence will have a purpose. meanwhile, well done for achieving success this time around, and please accept my warmest congratulations

Didn't someone known to all of us on this Forum say something along the lines of "longing is preferable to achievement" (I know I am paraphrasing)?
There is always something to long for and the anticipation is often more enjoyable = the journey is more enjoyable than the destination, etc., etc.,

Alan

Hello friends,
I'd love to listen to the 1967 outtakes as well. It would be great if someone could help me with these.
Regards
Matthias

Same, if somebody kind would help me out, I'd be forever grateful.

Geoffrey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:59 am ...the only down side is that now you have completed your mission you are left with one less goal to concentrate upon - but don't lose heart. other searching opportunities will surely present themselves in the future and once again your existence will have a purpose...

AlanM wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:15 am ...Didn't someone known to all of us on this Forum say something along the lines of "longing is preferable to achievement" (I know I am paraphrasing)?
There is always something to long for and the anticipation is often more enjoyable = the journey is more enjoyable than the destination, etc., etc....

I think it really depends upon the situation and the person as to how much enjoyment one feels in these different stages of experience, and thus which one (if any) is preferable. I heartily agree that sometimes the journey is, if not more enjoyable, at least equally enjoyable as the destination -- in fact, in many aspects of life, it is all journey -- an ongoing experience -- and there is no destination. But, for those things which are "destinations", such as the acquisition of something that will become a cherished part of one's life (such as a rare set of recordings by one's favourite singing millionare), it may well be the case that having that thing brings far more pleasure than longing for it, for its absence is not as sweet as its presence.

It sometimes strikes me that some of the people who enjoy longing more than achievement/acquisition are never satisfied with anything in their lives -- no matter what they achieve or get, they always want something more, something different, something they think will be better, and they are incapable of appreciating and enjoying what they have and what is all around them. I feel sorry for people like that, who feel constantly deprived, endlessly seeking more, perhaps not really even knowing what it is that they want (if it even exists), for they are unlikely ever to find it or to be happy with what they have.

Geoffrey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:59 am phillip wrote:
>I got the songs, thanks!

wonderful, phillip. my heart rejoiced at this news. this just shows how a person's determination can result in a happy conclusion. there are always helpful people around who will assist someone in need; one just has to find them. the only down side is that now you have completed your mission you are left with one less goal to concentrate upon - but don't lose heart. other searching opportunities will surely present themselves in the future and once again your existence will have a purpose. meanwhile, well done for achieving success this time around, and please accept my warmest congratulations

Thanks for the lovely message now so much listening to do hehe Leonard here I come

thank you to lisa, alan and phillip. i read everything you write. accept my apologies if this message doesn't make much sense. i bought a bottle of 'bois de la neuve'.
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the process of searching has greater mental benefits than the goal. perhaps this is why gifts are normally wrapped up before giving to someone. it is the expectation, the mystery, the surprise element that is exciting. once a present is opened, regardless of what it contains, the recipient's brain has no more questions to ponder upon.

having nothing to think about is a dull state of mind. this is why the likes of lucky dips and kinder eggs are popular, because wondering what is inside creates a mental stimulation that is lost the moment the contents are revealed, and without that stimulation there can exist no inspiration - essential for creativity. the moment a person gets what they want it's game over. it is the longing for something that drives people forward. leonard cohen frequently wrote about yearning/longing, it was mentioned in many of his songs and even inspired an entire book.

a journey being more important or enjoyable than the destination is not only a metaphor for life and death, but also a lifelong psychological mindset related to a continual need to satisfy a craving for answers, or whatever - and that is a good thing. i note with interest the posters here who are searching for items they lack. it gives them a purpose, something to focus upon, a reason to climb out of bed in the morning. as long as we are pursuing a desire then life will have meaning.

Geoffrey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:09 pm ...the process of searching has greater mental benefits than the goal...having nothing to think about is a dull state of mind. ...wondering what is inside creates a mental stimulation that is lost the moment the contents are revealed, and without that stimulation there can exist no inspiration - essential for creativity. the moment a person gets what they want it's game over. it is the longing for something that drives people forward....i note with interest the posters here who are searching for items they lack. it gives them a purpose, something to focus upon, a reason to climb out of bed in the morning. as long as we are pursuing a desire then life will have meaning.

Hmmm. Assuming that your post was more or less in direct response to what I wrote, you seem to have misunderstood what I said, and/or missed the point (or, you are blatantly invalidating and trivialising any world-view different from your own -- perhaps all of the above). However, I do not believe that any further explication of my thoughts on these matters would make any difference, and so I shall simply wish you a good day! Cheers!

hei lisa.

it was not a direct response to anything that had been written earlier, merely a continuation of some thoughts about the matter, which appears to have unintentionally caused disappointment. stay well

phillip wrote:
>Thanks for the lovely message. Now so much listening to do, hehe. Leonard here I come!

you are more than welcome, phillip. enjoy your new additions

Geoffrey wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:01 am hei lisa.

it was not a direct response to anything that had been written earlier, merely a continuation of some thoughts about the matter, which appears to have unintentionally caused disappointment. stay well

No, I was not “disappointed”, for that would imply that I was expecting something different. I merely pointed out that your comments and viewpoints seemed to be in almost complete contradiction to what I had just written, which is certainly nothing new!

LisaLCFan wrote:
>I merely pointed out that your comments and viewpoints seemed to be in almost complete contradiction to what I had just written, which is certainly nothing new!
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am not sure exactly what i wrote that was objectionable, but in future will try to focus more upon what someone writes and agree with it