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one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:34 am
by Geoffrey
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:56 am
by Hartmut
You do the yodeling parts quite well.
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:59 am
by Hartmut
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:07 pm
by Geoffrey
Hartmut wrote:You do the yodeling parts quite well.
thank you, hartmut. is 'quite' as strong as 'very'?
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:51 pm
by fishfishquaileye
nice version, Geoffrey. As you are an expert on Bob Dylan music I wonder if I may ask you a question about one of his songs, "All I Really Want To Do"
As I examine the lyrics I come to the view that the word 'really' only serves to make one suspicious of a statement's credibility.
now you may well think that such an opinion is pedantic or childish, but please explain why Dylan needs to say any more than "All I Want To Do".
I ain't lookin' to compete with you
Beat or cheat or mistreat you
Simplify you, classify you
Deny, defy or crucify you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
No, and I ain't lookin' to fight with you
Frighten you or tighten you
Drag you down or drain you down
Chain you down or bring you down
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
I ain't lookin' to block you up
Shock or knock or lock you up
Analyze you, categorize you
Finalize you or advertise you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
I don't want to straight-face you
Race or chase you, track or trace you
Or disgrace you or displace you
Or define you or confine you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
I don't want to meet your kin
Make you spin or do you in
Or select you or dissect you
Or inspect you or reject you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
I don't want to fake you out
Take or shake or forsake you out
I ain't lookin' for you to feel like me
See like me or be like me
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
AW: Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:24 pm
by Hartmut
Geoffrey wrote:
thank you, hartmut. is 'quite' as strong as 'very'?
In this case: Yes.
Re: AW: Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:45 pm
by Geoffrey
Hartmut wrote:Geoffrey wrote:
thank you, hartmut. is 'quite' as strong as 'very'?
In this case: Yes.
i have entered your name into my little white book

Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:46 pm
by Geoffrey
fishfishquaileye wrote:
>As you are an expert on Bob Dylan music . . .
Indeed, plus many other things.
>. . . I wonder if I may ask you a question about one of his songs, "All I Really Want To Do".
By all means.
>As I examine the lyrics I come to the view that the word 'really' only serves to make one suspicious of a statement's credibility.
Bravo. You are right to be suspicious. It is encouraging to know that my grooming of you has not been wasted.
>Now you may well think that such an opinion is pedantic or childish . . .
On the contrary; an alertness to what is unwittingly being communicated in everyday speech can give the listener a huge advantage when discerning fact from fiction.
>. . . but please explain why Dylan needs to say any more than "All I Want To Do".
He includes the word 'really' because he is lying. No red-blooded man wants merely to be friends with his 'baby'. What would be the point? He is gaining her confidence before the seduction; that is what men do. Bob Dylan is being false. Why do you think he sings that line in falsetto?
AW: Re: AW: Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:34 pm
by Hartmut
Geoffrey wrote:
i have entered your name into my little white book

Thank you. (I hope that's a good thing ...)
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:54 pm
by lizzytysh
LOLOLOL... great analysis there, g
It is an awful lot of delineations to go through for 'just' a friend... wonder if he's leading up to the seduction or assuaging the rejection [the falsetto could make a bit of sense in that context, as well

]... some of that "methinks he doth" stuff. Don't have time to try to look for clues as to which, but am open to any you will find.
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:14 am
by imaginary friend
Geoffrey, you are in fine form these days.
It is such fun for us mere mortals to observe you and Fishie parrying and thrusting with your, er...rapiers.
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:15 am
by Geoffrey
imaginary friend wrote:Geoffrey, you are in fine form these days. It is such fun for us mere mortals to observe you and Fishie parrying and thrusting with your, er...rapiers.
well, for him it's like playing chess with a computer. he knows he cannot win, but benefits from the exercise. just imagine how the percentage of successful prosecutions would soar if a fellow possessing my knowledge of human behaviour were a member of a legal team.
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:24 am
by Geoffrey
lizzytysh wrote:
. . . some of that "methinks he doth" stuff.
yessss - not only do you read the bard, you have the mind of a psychologist!!!!!x
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:48 pm
by fishfishquaileye
Geoffrey wrote:imaginary friend wrote:Geoffrey, you are in fine form these days. It is such fun for us mere mortals to observe you and Fishie parrying and thrusting with your, er...rapiers.
just imagine how the percentage of successful prosecutions would soar if a fellow possessing my knowledge of human behaviour were a member of a legal team.
You mean if you acted for the defence, I presume. That's a heck of a confession by you, self-effacing, yet a brutally honest acceptance of your limitations and shortcomings. Admirable! My own view is let the ersatz win their cyber victories whilst the real warriors win in the Real World.
Re: one more cappuccino for the road
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:40 pm
by Geoffrey
fishfishquaileye wrote:My own view is let the ersatz win their cyber victories whilst the real warriors win in the Real World.
Be careful not to confuse warriors with worriers. Now, 'the real world' is a concept with no clear definition. "Is this real life, or is it just fantasy?" - asked Freddy Mercury at the beginning of one of his songs. Shelley, in 'Adonais', claimed that when people die they awaken from the dream of life. Some psychologists believe a person with angst sees the real world more clearly than people who fool themselves in order to function. It is a complex issue, not made any easier by science (see the two CNN reports below).
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innova ... =allsearch
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europ ... l?iref=NS1
"It's all just a dream, Babe" ['To Ramona' -Bob Dylan]