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A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:57 pm
by Byron
Ok, girls, whose got the snout?
We're out for the night
To put it about
Full of cheap booze
Free-loaded and ready
We've nothing to lose
Get to excess as fast as we can
We've all got a date with the enamel pan.

With our bags full of zips
To hide hooch and weed
Keep to the shadows
To hide what we need
from those door-girls who pry
Finding drugs, drink and speed.

Head for the 'Cheap-Hour'
Our 'First drink is Free'
We'll outnumber the guys
Who'll be legless by 3.

Get to the queue
Present my I.D.
Open my bag
Get the weed through with me
Pay the cashier
Head for the bar
Get hammered real quick
Jar after jar.

The guys are real wusses who pace themselves
Unable to match the greed of the girls
Club's open till 3
But we'll be long gone
Swaying and dropping
friends one by one
The boys stick together
But we don't care
Any girlfriend who falls
We'll leave her there.

The door-staff and coppers
Don't know what to grab
When they want to detain us
We're not like the lads
Just try to restrain us
And you'll pay the price
Blokes are so easy
We ain't nice.
They'll throw a punch
We'll hurl a glass
Whatevers to hand
We won't let it pass
Dad's “Little Princess”
Some fella's wife
Don't ever cross us
We ain't nice.

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:05 am
by Violet
Hi Byron.. as I was recently on a bruiser of a bender, I'm not anxious to repeat it at the moment.. so this fine princess will have to stay in, I'm afraid..

.. as per your recent signature.. I am enamored of all things Oscar Wilde.. and would love a table full of him for a dinner party.. (though who could ever keep up??.. I'd just keep bringing in the drinks, I guess)..

.. oh, and Carl Sagan.. could you tell me a Carl Sagan story??.. or at least about the little blue dot..

v. xx x x

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:10 am
by Alsiony
Well, a bunch of girls going out for the night together and having a really good time is one thing...but what you have described here...

I absolutely agree with you Byron, females like that (I shall refrain from using the term 'women' because this kind of behaviour is a stain on women) - females, people, things who behave - as you have so clearly portrayed here - are just plain nasty, and in two senses, nasty as not so nice people, and nasty as in just plain yuck.

A
x

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:15 am
by Karren B
Hi A

I think they are called Laddettes.

The name says it all.

Karren B xx

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:17 am
by Byron
Violet wrote:Hi Byron.. as I was recently on a bruiser of a bender, I'm not anxious to repeat it at the moment.. so this fine princess will have to stay in, I'm afraid..

.. as per your recent signature.. I am enamored of all things Oscar Wilde.. and would love a table full of him for a dinner party.. (though who could ever keep up??.. I'd just keep bringing in the drinks, I guess)..

.. oh, and Carl Sagan.. could you tell me a Carl Sagan story??.. or at least about the little blue dot..

v. xx x x
"The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.
That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.
October 13 1994 Carl Sagan.

By coincidence, the last part of the piece above was a recording by Carl Sagan on a Radio Programme yesterday. It was good to hear his wonderful voice again.

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:27 am
by Byron
Ladies, I listened to a BBC Radio 4 Programme this afternoon. A lady aged 53 was spending the evening with a Doctor, Criminal Psychologist, and taking her to her places of work. The 53 year old is a lady Door-Man (Bouncer) She is fully qualified and highly trained. Everything that appears in the piece I wrote, came out of the recording, of that evening's work experiences. I found it hard to believe that 'ladies' behaved that way, but as the programme clearly showed, any night of the week will be like that. The Door-Lady works in Clubs in London. They start work at 9:00pm At 10-15pm people begin to arrive. Between 10-15 and 12-30 it gets very busy. Every act referred to in my piece was part of that programme. What was clear was that the lady on the door found girls to be far worse behaved than lads.
Oh, they're someone's little princess.............

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:31 am
by Violet
Byron wrote:
Violet wrote:Hi Byron.. as I was recently on a bruiser of a bender, I'm not anxious to repeat it at the moment.. so this fine princess will have to stay in, I'm afraid..

.. as per your recent signature.. I am enamored of all things Oscar Wilde.. and would love a table full of him for a dinner party.. (though who could ever keep up??.. I'd just keep bringing in the drinks, I guess)..

.. oh, and Carl Sagan.. could you tell me a Carl Sagan story??.. or at least about the little blue dot..

v. xx x x
"The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It's been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.
That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever lived, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam.
October 13 1994 Carl Sagan.
.. I was about to say you really know how to spin out a good yarn, but I guess that's Carl Sagan.. though I do like your yarns too..

... oh, you know, Byron.. I love the poems you do that sound.. hmm.. "colloquial".. is that the word?.. I'm thoroughly into Brit land accents.. so.. maybe you know the poems I mean.. the accents flavor them so.. and skillfully too.. (in case I never mentioned it)..

v. xx x

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:58 am
by Alsiony
Karren B wrote:Hi A

I think they are called Laddettes.

The name says it all.

Karren B xx


Yes. why why why??!!

I am - (believe me) a very very liberal type of person, live and let live is one maxim that I very much live by- but the pointless, ridiculous, and quite frankly down-right awfulness of this kind of culture makes me cringe :(.
How it is hilarious?.. To not know the name of which drunk chav's face you left your plastic diamante g -string on, just before you crashed off the dance floor, and in your fit of paralytic hysteria and absolute inability to co-ordinate yourself or your movements whatsoever, you barge into some girl who you don't know - a cat-scrap punch-up ensues and you and your crowd get shoved off out into the street. Then all of your other mindless, equally incapacitated girlfriends, whose streaky tans also glow freakishly in the street-lamp light, totter around you in there scratched up 5 inch pvc heels saying 'It's alright lurve, we'll look after you'. Look after? (oh yeah, and don't forget the required 'vomiting into your own hair' at some point too). The whole thing is a scary vulgar nightmare.

I have been in some states in the past, ( I am no saint), but I just don't get this weird backlash culture. 'Women rule' - 'Girl power'... yeah alright love, not like this though, now sod off and sort yourself out please...
There is much sorting out to do me thinks, where on earth to start I just don't know though.

Ok - rant over, thankyou Byron, I needed that :D haha

A
x

I am not having a go about high-heels by the way, just to be clear ;)

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:33 am
by Cate
It sounds like a bit of a pendulum with the girls going to the opposite extreme.
For me the saddest part was girls leaving girls behind.

Question, almost afraid to ask – what is snout?
and is a jar a pint?

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:26 am
by Alsiony
'Snout' is slang for cigarette or tobacco (originally London slang), and yes 'jar' is a slang word for a pint.
Though both words arrived into use at different times I believe.
Cate you should get a cockney rhyming slang book :) hehe

A
x

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:39 pm
by Byron
Violet, for colloquial wordage, have a look at these 2 from John Cooper Clarke. A poet from Manchester. If you can find a CD of his to listen to, you really will be in Brit accents. He's terrific....



http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/beasley.html

http://www.cyberspike.com/clarke/monster.html


This is one CD we have. Highly recommended. And cheap as chips.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews ... ewpoints=1


And yes ! poem number 7 is what it says. It's hilarious. :lol:

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:54 pm
by Violet
.. I've read the first one just now, and wow, I really really like him.. Beasely is beastly..

.. and I'll need to find recordings now too.. very powerful, though, and methinks his Lordship would like him too..

... two lines that stood out of a poem of so many good ones:

"On a permanent Monday morning"..

.. oh, and.. "Beauty problems are redefined".. (!)..

... thank you, B.. I love discovering new talented writers.. but you know, I'm sure if I heard him, then the accent part would snap into place, just as this beastly Beasely world already has in its potent imagery.. and yet.. the poems of yours (which I do need to dig up now).. well.. the accent was in how you wrote them.. and so I didn't need to hear you recite them, as it was all there for me.. and it was great.. so.. I shall do that when I have another moment..

.. I love this kind of stuff,
v i o l e t x x x x


Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:37 pm
by Byron
Can I add to the words I've used?
Byron wrote:Ok, girls, whose got the snout? (also alluding to pigs which the girls become as the night progresses, but in contrast to what they call the police, "Pigs")
We're out for the night (eventually unconscious too )
To put it about (STD's)
Full of cheap booze (they're not into good wines)
Free-loaded and ready (A term meaning buying supermarket cheap alcohol and getting as much inside them before leaving home)
We've nothing to lose (No longer virgins)
Get to excess as fast as we can (they are products of modern consumeristic society)
We've all got a date with the enamel pan. (On their knees being sick into toilet bowls which usually have the company's stamp and date of manufacture at the bottom of the bowl)

With our bags full of zips (They've bought handbags [purses in the USA] that are full of many pockets in which to stash weed etc.)
To hide hooch and weed
Keep to the shadows (staying out of the light)
To hide what we need (the bouncers can see if customers are on drugs by looking into their eyes)
from those door-girls who pry
Finding drugs, drink and speed.

Head for the 'Cheap-Hour'
Our 'First drink is Free' (Clubs offer these inducements and cause excessive drinking)
We'll outnumber the guys (Men have to pay to get into the clubs, girls get in for free and are attracted to the free drinks offers. This means that the men carry on drinking cheaper beer in pubs before going on to clubs where drink can sometimes be dearer, but not necessarily)
Who'll be legless by 3. (The men will take several hours to get plastered, whereas the girls get p*ssed as fast as they can)

Get to the queue
Present my I.D.
Open my bag
Get the weed through with me (Hopefully)
Pay the cashier (Cilla Black's job in The Cavern)
Head for the bar
Get hammered real quick (Drunk, injured, or be a victim when very drunk later)
Jar after jar. (Jar is a pint of alcohol, and "jar" is a reference to talking a lot, especially when p*ssed)

The guys are real wusses who pace themselves (The men want to make the night last longer, but the girls want instant gratification)
Unable to match the greed of the girls (More of this attitude to drink, and friendship later)
Club's open till 3
But we'll be long gone
Swaying and dropping (girls will form a congar line when drunk and their friends who can't stand up get left behind)
friends one by one
The boys stick together
But we don't care
Any girlfriend who falls
We'll leave her there. (So much for girl 'friend' British irony here)

The door-staff and coppers
Don't know what to grab (Anyone who touches one of these drunken wenches in the 'wrong' place, will end up in court for sexually molesting her)
When they want to detain us
We're not like the lads (The girls are far more devious and crafty, even when drunk)
Just try to restrain us
And you'll pay the price
Blokes are so easy (Girls know how to fool drunken blokes, which is why I used dad's Little Princess later)
We ain't nice.
They'll throw a punch
We'll hurl a glass (Girls will always grab anything to throw or stab someone. They don't throw punches, but if nothing else is to hand they pull hair and use it like a weapon to spin their victim around)
Whatevers to hand
We won't let it pass (anything to use as that weapon will be used regardless)
Dad's “Little Princess”
Some fella's wife
Don't ever cross us
We ain't nice.

If you can get 'Listen Again' on BBC Radio 4, you'll be able to listen to the programme.

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:33 pm
by Cate
It's been yeeeeears since I've been in a 'proper' nightclub and even back then I never really liked it, I just wanted to dance with my friends.
The one thing that struck me and I guess I'm looking for positives here, is that it sounds like the girls buy their own drinks - even though they're very thrifty (don't want to say cheap) that's pretty independent and they do sound confident (although maybe not, sometimes when people over do things it because they are trying to prove something to themselves as much as to others).
Thinking back to the idea of repression in another thread I wonder if that might also play a bit of a role - rebelling against that terrible pink section in the the toy store and the limited choices of 'acceptable' Halloween customs available to girls (would you like to be a pink princess, or purple princess or wait for it, what about a BLUE Princess!!!!).

anyways Byron - good poem, great images and thought provoking.

cate

Re: A GIRLS' NIGHT OUT

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:55 pm
by Violet
.. (hmm.. what's so wrong about being a purple princess, anyway??).. (just wondering to myself, actually)..