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the sound of silence
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:54 pm
by Sandra
Has anyone yet listened to the latest craze classical in music??? It is indeed silence!!
Just over 4minutes long, I think the orchestra has done itself proud, by drawing attention to the sounds of the air conditioning, their audience and of course their page turns!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:59 am
by Heretic
'Latest craze' ?
I think not.
Research first.
Then post.
more information
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:18 am
by Sandra
what is music?
It's NOT about organized sound played on made instruments.
It IS about the impact of latitudanal energy waves transmitted through a medium, to our ears, producing a pleasing impact upon our mind.
Bird song. Music.
The far away hum of traffic and chidlren's laughter, drifting through an open window on a Sunday afternoon, as we lie on our beds slightly stoned? Music.
The sound of a vacuum cleaning the downstairs hall whilst we doze in the bath. Music.
The sound of a cork popping, wine glugging out of a bottle into a glass intended for us. Music.
The sound of tea dribbling and pouring from a teapot onto milk in a mug. Music to our ears.
Music - it's about appreciating sound, and the pleasing effects that random, not-organized-for-us, and music made by deliberate musicians noise has on our ears.n.....)
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:40 am
by Sandra
greta wrote:the sound of a waterfall
the sound of waves coming to shore
but the best of them all:
a sound of silence(e. g. in a forest) every once in a while
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:02 am
by Sandra
I have nothing to say / and I am saying it / and that is poetry / as I needed it" --John Cage
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:07 am
by Heretic
You wonderfully missed my point.
The emphasis was on 'latest'.
It is very old news.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:24 am
by Sandra
ok..sorry....but for me it is new.....
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:27 am
by lizzytysh

It's new to me, too, Sandra ~ 4 minutes worth, eh? I like it

!
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:59 pm
by Moonlight
Give me strength.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:22 pm
by lizzytysh
And Poof! ~ strength finally, suddenly, came from within.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:26 pm
by greta
good idea but...if anyone wants to enjoy silence why should one go to a concert hall? It's much better(at least for me) to go for a walk in a park or somewhere... It's a good idea but i wouldn't buy tickets to such a concert :d
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:53 pm
by Sandra
I have always liked silence and enjoy it, that is why when I read that "old news" it was completely new for me to know that someone else enjoyed it and recognized its importance to the point to make it worth to deserve the quality of a "piece of music" and that I think is the importance of John Cage“s work. Not necessary to buy tickets to enjoy it greta

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:58 pm
by lizzytysh
My understanding is that it was merely an Interlude, of sorts, amidst the full orchestration of the evening at the symphony ~ by far not the sole purpose for making the trek to the hall

. For
everyone, halls come a tad too expensive for
that

.
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:42 pm
by jurica
Heretic,
it indeed is 'Latest craze'!
when John Cage wrote this piece in 1953! it was not 'craze'. it was artistic alternative. it was a research of outer border of musical minimalism. also, an ironic laugh in the face of kitschmensch of that time. and because of that, it was never preformed.
now it is 'craze', and every kitschmensch around ought to talk about it, right?
talking about it, isn't Leonard 'latest craze' also? aren't his poems often missread as emotional, sublime or sensual, even when he's describing the very hollowness of false emotions?
we're living in strange times, and context in which we consume art often changes it's very nature. (remember how 'born in the u.s.a.' is often used as a patriotic song!?!?)
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:34 pm
by Bananafish
Surely a critical thing in music composition is 'silence'. For a musician/composer, the pauses, rests, bars spent counting preparing for perhaps just one 'ting' of a triangle are vital to the piece and constitute the piece itself - the silences and rests of a piece are as composed (and saying something, expressing the artist etc) as the notes inbetween. Cage has simply taken this to its logical conclusion. I applaud.