So long, Marianne. Marianne's recollections of Hydra

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DOCUMENTARY Kari Hesthamar in co-operation with Marianne IhlenSo long, Marianne. A love story / So long, Marianne. Ei kjærleikshistoriePublished by Spartacus Forlag, 2008
Leonard Cohen immortalised her in the song “So long, Marianne.” The story begins in the 1950s, in Oslo, a town marked by jazz and a budding youth rebellion. Together with her boyfriend Axel Jensen, 23-years- old Marianne runs away to Greece and lands on the island of Hydra, where a few international artists have already congregated, and they are soon joined by Göran Tunstrøm. Axel and Marianne buy a small white washed house where Axel Jensen amongst other stories writes his novel Line.
After a couple of years Axel leaves the island, Marianne and their six months little son for another woman. One day Marianne was in the village shop with her basket waiting to pick up bottled water and milk, a dark man is standing in the doorway with the sun behind him. He is saying: “Would you like to join us, we’re sitting outside?” It is Leonard Cohen. He calls her the most beautiful woman he has ever met. Cohen drives her home from Greece to Oslo. Later she receives a telegram from Montreal: “Have house. All I need is my woman and her son. Love Leonard.” Shortly afterwards she goes to Canada with her little boy. Cohen, Marianne and “little Axel” live together during the 60s, and commute between Montreal, New York and Hydra. Cohen dedicated his collection of poetry, Flowers for Hitler, to her. He has written many of his most famous poems and songs inspired by Marianne.
Now, for the first time Marianne tells her story in this book, in co-operation with Kari Hesthamar. The book is illustrated with never before seen photos, facsimiles and letters.
http://www.hagenagency.no/index.php?gro ... &art=11682

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But will the book be translated into English
so we non-Norwegians can read it?

I think it should have been published in English also
as the English-speaking Cohen fans
are the main target group for a book like this.


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As far as I know they're looking for a publisher of the translation(s)!
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Bohemliv i Hellas

En elegant fortalt, men ikke uproblematisk om en ukjent kvinne og to berømte menn.
Kåre Bulie

BOK: Den begavede radiodokumentaristen Kari Hesthamar har i sin bokdebut valgt å fortelle en uvanlig historie: Om ei tilsynelatende nokså vanlig jente fra Oslo Vests borgerskap som forelsket seg i to unge menn som var i ferd med å bli kjente, og i dag er vesentlige navn i etterkrigstidas kulturhistorie – Axel Jensen i Norge, Leonard Cohen internasjonalt.

Disse kjærlighetsfortellingene hever seg utover det vanlige først og fremst fordi den ene parten siden ble berømt.

Kunstner-øy
Samtidig er miljøet historiene ble til i, fascinerende og betegnende for 1960-åras mentalitetshistoriske forandringer: Sammen med Jensen forlot Marianne Ihlen Oslo til fordel for den greske øya Hydra, der hun etter hvert også traff Cohen.

Hydra tiltrakk seg i 1960-åra et betydelig antall kunstnertyper og arvinger fra verden rundt. Bohemene delte ønsket om et kreativt og frisinnet liv under de enkle, men vakre forholdene øya kunne tilby, og tilbrakte – etter boka å dømme – mye av tida med å drikke, eksperimentere med narkotika, krangle og føre høyttravende diskusjoner om ulike måter å «finne» og realisere seg selv på.

Elegant
«So Long, Marianne» er først og fremst Ihlens versjon av samlivet med de kjente mennene: Cohen har bidratt med brev og dikt og dukker en sjelden gang opp som en slags kommentator, men i all hovedsak er boka bygd på Ihlens dagbøker og brev og det som må være et uendelig antall intervjutimer med henne. Ihlen slipper imidlertid nesten aldri til med sine egne ord direkte; den drevne intervjueren Hesthamar har fått henne til å fortelle så detaljert og nært at hun har kunnet skrive historien hennes konsekvent i tredjeperson. Resultatet er lavmælt og elegant.

Tett på
Så tett på kommer leseren at vi stadig får høre hva Ihlen tenker og føler, men direkte tale og dialog finnes det i det hele tatt lite av – et valg som med tanke på at historien hun forteller spenner fra midten av 1950-åra til slutten av 1960-tallet, styrker troverdigheten. Selv om Hesthamar bryter den opp med dagboksnotater, dikt og en serie talende brev, bidrar det imidlertid samtidig til at teksten, med sine for øvrig nokså fraværende takt- og stilskifter, nå og da bærer et noe monotont preg. Så fryktelig mye skjer da heller ikke. Kanskje burde vi oftere fått høre Ihlens stemme uformidlet. Variasjonen mellom preteritum og presens stusser jeg også over, og nå og da gjentar Hesthamar seg selv.

Døm selv
Selv om Ihlens perspektiv dominerer, er forfatteren klok nok til å felle få tydelige dommer og la leseren gjøre seg opp sin egen mening. Det gjør utdragene fra Jensens brev desto mer effektfulle: Han framstår som nesten sjokkerende selvrettferdig, med minimal empati og et oppblåst selvbilde. Der nordmannen knapt bruker verken tid eller penger på sønnen han får med Ihlen, fortsetter Cohen å forsørge både henne og sønnen, selv etter bruddet.

En av de mest interessante historiene boka indirekte er med på å fortelle, og som Jensen framstår som eksempel på, er hvilken grenseløs egoisme 1960-åras opptatthet av konvensjonsbrudd og selvrealisering kunne skjule. Boka er tankevekkende lesning om kvinneroller generelt og samliv med mannlige kunstnere spesielt.

Fargerik
Ihlen møtte Aristoteles Onassis på cocktailparty og støtte på Bob Dylan og Andy Warhol da hun hadde fulgt Cohen til New York. På Hydra ble hun venninne med Aldous Huxleys niese, hvis spesialitet var «sjokolademousse med marihuana». Slikt gir farge og eventyrfølelse til kjærlighetshistoriene, som ellers ofte har et sørgelig preg. Til tross for at Marianne er ei søkende og til dels dramatisk anlagt jente som gjerne vil bryte med borgerligheten, og i høy grad gjør det, later hun til å innhentes av den: Der Jensen og Cohen alltid står på farten videre, drømmer Ihlen om en far til barnet og en mann som ikke forlater henne.

Hun deler i liten grad deres intellektuelle og kunstneriske interesser, og føler seg særlig Jensen underlegen. Hun tar ikke høyere utdannelse, og bare en og annen strøjobb. Hennes drøm om frihet konkurrerer konstant med ønsket om trygghet.

Taus
At Hesthamar forteller så lite om hva som har skjedd med Ihlen de siste 40 åra, er rart, og med på å understreke følelsen av at Ihlens historie er interessant først og fremst i kraft av de sterke mennene hun elsket – et av bokas hovedproblemer. Vi får vite minimalt om hvordan valgene hun tok den gang har vært med på å forme livet hennes videre, eller hvilke tanker hun gjør seg i dag.

Formen bidrar dessuten til at vi aldri får se Hesthamar utfordre henne for eksempel på hvorfor hun sendte sin lille sønn fra seg i så stor grad som hun gjorde. Noe tydelig svar på hvorfor akkurat Ihlen ble kjæresten til to så ruvende skikkelser, gir boka knapt. Uansett er «So Long, Marianne» blitt ei leseverdig bok som setter 1960-åra i perspektiv.

So Long, Marianne. Ei kjærleikshistorie
Forfatter: Kari Hesthamar
Forlag: Spartacus
http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2008/10/20/550846.html

I'm completely lost in translation, please help! :? :roll:

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jarkko wrote:As far as I know they're looking for a publisher of the translation(s)!
Five years later...

What happened to the book? Are there any translations from norwegian language since 2008?

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According to Marianne in Oslo, the English translation will be launched in Canada on June 1 next year. It is already available for pre-order on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/So-Long-Mariann ... ROKL5A1OLE

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Thank you Wendy for wonderful news!

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Such a beautifully lovely sweet evocative cover for the book.
Am pre-ordering this.

Pre-Ordered. $28.52 USD. Not bad for coming from the U.K.
Should deliver by mid-July, 2014.
Looks like it'll get here shortly before the Leonard Cohen Event in August.
Perfect timing :D
And at last. So happy she found a translator 8)
As with most everyone else, I'm seriously looking forward to reading Marianne's perspectives and what she chooses to share.

LOVE the simple truth of the title.

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It will not be published in the UK but Canada, in Toronto.
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Really? The Amazon site I ordered it from was the U.K.! Guess I need to go back and cancel that, as I'd be paying more than I need.
Will check Amazon.ca instead. Thanks, Jarkko.
The launch I took to mean the official stuff with maybe book-signing, etc.
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It's not showing there, yet, so guess I'll just cancel my UK order and wait.
Like with Sylvie's, I thought it might have multiple publishings, and was hoping the UK version would be best [as with Sylvie's].
Thanks for clarifying that, Jarkko.
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Looks like it might be an interesting work
Here are some details from the amazon uk website - exactly the same details are on the amazon canada website

Product details
Hardcover: 288 pages
Publisher: ECW Press (10 Jun 2014)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1770411283
ISBN-13: 978-1770411289
Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 44,451 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

This suggests to me that it will be published in the uk ( and also canada ? ) but not until next June. Inspite of this it is available for preorder (with no expected delivery date ) for £14.10, but i don't think they take your payment until it is ready to be dispatched
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Here is the complete info sheet.
ISBN 978-1-77041-128-9
5.5 x 8.5", 288pp, cloth
25 b&w photos throughout
$24.95 CDN / U.S. | June 2014
PDF: 978-1-77090-500-9
ePub: 978-1-77090-501-6

The story of the enigmatic beauty who
captured the hearts of two extraordinary men
AT 22, MARIANNE Ihlen travelled to the Greek island of
Hydra with Norwegian writer Axel Jensen. While Axel wrote,
Marianne kept house, until Axel abandoned her and their
newborn son for another woman. One day while Marianne
was shopping in a little grocery store, in walked a man who
asked her to join him and some friends outside at their table.
He introduced himself as Leonard Cohen, then a little-known
Canadian poet.

Complemented by previously unpublished poems, letters,
and photographs, So Long, Marianne is an intimate, honest
account of Marianne’s life story — from her youth in Oslo, her
romance with Axel, to her life in an international artists’ colony
on Hydra in the 1960s, and beyond. The subject of one of the
most beautiful love songs of all time, Marianne Ihlen proves to
be more than a muse to Axel and Leonard; her journey of selfdiscovery,
of romance and heartache is lovingly recounted in So
Long, Marianne.

Award-winning journalist KARI HESTHAMAR wrote this book
based on lengthy conversations with Marianne Ihlen and supplemented
by interviews with Leonard Cohen. She lives in Norway. HELLE V.
GOLDMAN spent her childhood on the Greek island of Hydra and in
Providence, Rhode Island. She resides with her husband and daughter on
yet another island, this time in Norway — above the Arctic Circle — where
she is the chief editor of an international scientific journal.
KARI HESTHAMAR
TRANSLATED BY
HELLE V. GOLDMAN
So Long, Marianne
A Love Story — includes rare
material by Leonard Cohen
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The book is also available for pre-order at Amazon Canada. Here is the link:

http://www.amazon.ca/So-Long-Marianne-M ... g+Marianne

Thank you so much for the information, Jarkko. I am very much looking forward to this book!

Editing: It's also available for pre-order at Amazon U.S. & here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/So-Long-Marianne- ... g+Marianne
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Thanks for that link, holydove.
I'd looked, but had forgotten that Marianne didn't actually write it ;-) .
So, now, I've pre-ordered from Canada Amazon.
Also got another Book of Mercy [this time with the jagged page edges 8) , whcih I had wanted], and another Book of Longing.
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