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How far down?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:49 pm
by George.Wright
How far down?
How far down can you really go?
Will you be able to see the dark curtain, come down and end the show?
Examine the dark folds in the deep, velvet, impressions of life
Look and study, the extreme sharpness of the silver knife
And the cat looks at you with very strange, alien, eyes
That replicates the universe, in beauty's disguise
The Raven is impatiently, waiting for his feed of carrion flesh
As the dark priest gets ready to give you the final bless
Oblivious to the world, you begin to look inside your head
Those intense thoughts that appear,just before you are finally dead
Sparked by friction of lust, into life, many years ago
Your purity was unsullied like the crisp, virgin, snow
And all in between was a product of the first sin
Like the swiftness of movement of the shark's dorsal fin
The horrors of terror, grip your thoughts in the deep
As your tired body gets ready for it's final long sleep
And suddenly, the dark gets very much darker, but bright
As it amazingly, changes, pupa like, to turn into white light
The warmth is felt, even by the most cruel of this race
As it transports you easily, past the boundaries of time and space
To a most beautiful and calm, primeval garden and surrounds
Peace you have sought for and have finally found
But soon you hear the creaking of the closing of the garden gate
And it all soon changes into your deepest form of hate
Murder, torture, intolerance is all that is left here
Now that you have finally left the confines of earth's blue sphere
And the tears of the living, flow and hold you back
As you are tortured and stretched on the bloody, wooden rack
Too late now to change, just take a panic attack
How long is this show?
How far down can I really go?
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:22 pm
by Casey Butler
Seems like you oughta stop justifying it and just do it!
Casey
Re: How far down?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:49 pm
by George.Wright
Then there would not be the poem.....
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:50 pm
by Casey Butler
George.Wright wrote:Then there would not be the poem.....
Georges.
That's the first time you've sounded like I was irreplacable, something with value though evil through and through - since you, being evil, still judge evil.
Why not write about why evil is actually good? That's really the gist of everything I've read you've written other anyway.
[Edited to make sense]
Re: How far down?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:05 pm
by George.Wright
Mr Butler,
Time you came off your soapbox, you are rambling again....
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:24 pm
by Casey Butler
George.Wright wrote:Mr Butler,
Time you came off your soapbox, you are rambling again....
Georges.
Strange you should should feel that way, Georges, this is actually the real me. (Just the computer is different, LOL).
Take me off of my soapbox, as you see it.
I mean, make up your mind.
Casey
Re: How far down?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:50 pm
by George.Wright
Casey,
Just because you write about evil does not mean you are evil. Writing is like a punchbag, I do not like being judged as being evil by people who maybe should be looking at themselves. Back to JC himself, let him without sin, cast the first stone. Anyways, you are entiled to your opinion, it's how you express it.
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:48 am
by Casey Butler
George.Wright wrote:Just because you write about evil does not mean you are evil. Writing is like a punchbag, I do not like being judged as being evil by people who maybe should be looking at themselves.
But I don't write about evil, I write about good. I write about good and you feel judged as evil? Wherefore, when evil is good?
You write about evil and you feel good, everybody around you feels good - at least good enough to judge you, because you have lowered the bar beyond which their evil can be recognized as evil.
Back to JC himself, let him without sin, cast the first stone. Anyways, you are entiled to your opinion, it's how you express it.
That's just what I'm talking about... Jesus was speaking to good people, not evil people. Wouldn't an evil person have cast that stone and killed the adulteress?
So these good people were going to stone an adulteress because they judged adultery as more evil than themselves - or whatever.
All they needed was a reminder that they were good - not evil.
So they turned away.
All people are good unless they believe others to be evil.
They are either good good or good as lessons or good in a crunch or good to someone or good to the themselves.
Look what happened with Hitler. We made him and his Third Reich our great example of evil.
But Hitler set the "bar" of evil so low that all we have to do is avoid building gas chambers to stay "good" in our own eyes.
So we've accepted today that we can do all the rest - kill for lebensraum, keep "sub-humans" in ghettos we've walled away from us, keep them in prisons with different rights than the rest of us, force them to have and show their papers to travel at all, restrict their freedoms and food and medicine and infrastructure, launch aggressive wars on a leader's whim, invade other nations to rob them of their resources.
There is a long list of stuff we can do and still claim to be good because we're not as evil as we've made Hitler - like the people getting ready to stone that adultress.
Note that Jesus never condemned anyone - A lot of what we would call "evil" things were done in the name of "God". And to Jesus it was all good because it formed him - all of his words were his Father's words, everything he did he learned from his Father, etc...
Without Hitler and people he killed, I would not be me either, so the Holocaust was not for nothing.
It was so I would stand up next time we judged people as unworthy of us.
Erase me if you like. Strange you would even listen to somebody who could only afford a soapbox to talk from these days anyway.
Casey
Re: How far down?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:06 am
by George.Wright
Casey.
Duality exists everywhere.
Soapboxes are not a measure of wealth but freedom of speech.
Good and evil actually intertwine.
You have already judged me as evil.
Go and brasso your Halo.
PS, You have done your good deed for the day, take a clap.
Sleep with Angels.
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:29 am
by Casey Butler
George.Wright wrote:Casey.
Duality exists everywhere.
Soapboxes are not a measure of wealth but freedom of speech.
Oh no, an idealist. Free speech amidst a flood is an oxymoron.
Good and evil actually intertwine.
That's what I've been saying.
You have already judged me as evil.
No, you judge yourself as evil, I simply mirror your judgement so we can communicate.
You, being evil, ought to understand that!
This is an evil and adulterous generation! For a little while longer anyway...
Go and brasso your Halo.
I have no halo yet, but I got clouds in the shape of wings three nights ago. So everybody better duck, don the Kevlar. I'm now official.
PS, You have done your good deed for the day, take a clap. Sleep with Angels.
I'm with the Angels when I'm here, and when I sleep.
But thanks for the break... :-)
Casey
Re: How far down?
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:31 pm
by George.Wright
Casey,
Answer me this question.......How far down can u go?
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:49 am
by Casey Butler
I can go down so far the river's gonna weep and the mountains' gonna shout "Amen!".
Your version of "down" and my version of "down" are probably the same. But you seem to see down as down, when everything, including down, is UP.
All paths lead back to the same Source, every one.
Sheesh.
The fact is, anybody goes anywhere NOT judging and they'll be hung by the judges who feel judged because they judge.
Go up go down go all the around, I love you and you just have to live with that. LOL
Casey
Re: How far down?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:25 am
by George.Wright
Casey,
The only way is up then in a spiritual Rapture. Nice.
Georges.
Re: How far down?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:30 am
by Casey Butler
George.Wright wrote:Casey, The only way is up then in a spiritual Rapture. Nice. Georges.
What's a rapture? [yawn]
You could also say the only way is down to earth, that's how I look at it.
[yawn]
Casey
Re: How far down?
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:34 am
by George.Wright
Rapture happens to the good before the End of Days. Not to the sleeping prophets.
Georges.