L.C. Song Hunt

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Hartmut
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Thanks, Bev!

Are you maybe talking about the rain falling down on last year's man?
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Ah well done, Hartmut! I had a whole lot of clues ready to post but not needed now!
You've got it with rain and time I reckon. The proximity association is that Famous Blue Raincoat and Last Year's Man are next to each other in the track list of The Best Of Leonard Cohen 1975.

Now you may think that only hard rock & roll, heavy metal or punk band members are exclusively the ones to smash their guitars.....well, think again! Guess who has done that! In fact, LC stomped all over his guitar while playing this song. btw..... I don't think that spectacular sight was in public view ;-)
Here's what he said: “I don't know why but I like this song. I used to play it on a Mexican twelve-string until I destroyed the instrument by jumping on it in a fit of impotent fury in 1967. The song had too many verses and it took about five years to sort out the right ones. I like the children (of the London Corona Academy) in this version. I always wait for them if I have to listen to it.”

Those children also do backing vocals on Songs of Love and Hate where FBR is, of course not on that song but for sure on DRR.

Over to you now.
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Hi Bev,

Interesting story about the guitar stomping. Hadn't heard it. There is a classic country music
precedent for this kind of thing. Ira Louvin of the Louvin Brothers would, on occasion, smash
his mandolin during a performance. It is said that he did this out of frustration with the
instrument going out of tune.
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ha! Steven, seems they all do it for one reason or the other :)
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Steven wrote: Here's a great site: http://www.shakespeareswords.com/.
Thanks.
B4real wrote:You've got it with rain and time I reckon.
Indeed.
B4real wrote: I used to play it on a Mexican twelve-string until I destroyed the instrument by jumping on it in a fit of impotent fury in 1967.
I had forgotten about that quote. But now I remember. I think it's from the liner notes of the Best of album.
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"Ocean’s Eleven" meets "The Song of Bernadette" meets "The Devil Wears Prada" meets "Gossip" meets "Lust for Life".
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Hartmut, a quick look and stab in the dark says Came So Far For Beauty.

Ocean's Eleven – I stormed the old casino For the money
The Song of Bernadette – I practiced all my sainthood

I'm basing that on your first two clues only because I haven't seen the other three which I guess are all movies and don't have time to research them at the moment :)
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Wow, you're scaringly good at this.

I wonder where this extreme familiarity with Leonard's lyrics stems from ... :-)

(The other lines referenced are the ones about style / clothes, rumours, masterpiece unsigned.)
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Thanks Hartmut, for the extra explanation.
With the lyrics it could have come from what you're thinking ;-) Even so, I didn't have the answer you wanted to your question a couple of months ago when this game stalled and no one knew (or remembered :) ) the answer.

OK now is this familiar?
orange
violet
green
white
pink
glowing
pale

Leonard is definitely known for his colourful lines and in my attempt to answer Hartmut's above question I found a solution relating to another similar list.

orange
white
silver
pale
pink
violet/blue
brown
black

See if you can work out what I found!
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Thank you for remembering that question, Bev.

I dug out my notes. They look like this:

Suzanne orange
Marianne violet
Nancy green
Joan white
Queen Victoria pink
Alexandra glowing
Heather white

I think you have to exchange some words for synonyms: violet = lilac; glowing = radiant; white = bright; white = pale. - It was not an easy question. But I think the common denominator is obvious.

I suspect your list has similar origins.

"Brown" might refer to the plain brown envelope from "Dress Rehearsal Rag".

Then there are the black carriages from Queen Victoria.

And silver ... there are silver bars, silver bullets, silver nerves, and a silver needle, among other things. But if your list is similar to mine and if you are looking for songs with women in their titles, then you're probably talking about the silver knives from the Gypsy's Wife or about the dress of blue and silver from Our Lady of Solitude.

And now I'm confused, because the "Dress Rehearsal Rag" doesn't really fit into this list. Hm ...
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ah Hartmut, don't over think it! You are right with Dress Rehearsal Rag! In this case it's only one song. I thought I'd use that song because we were talking about it recently and I could use that fact as a clue :)
Thanks for your explanatory notes about your original post.

DRESS REHEARSAL RAG
I said to myself, "Where are you golden boy, (orange)
where is your famous golden touch?" (orange)
of all the wheels in Ivory Town (white)
a stainless steel razor blade (silver)
and a girl with chestnut hair (brown)
and you held her in the shadows (black)
where the raspberries grow wild (pink)
And you climbed the twilight mountains (violet/blue)
you can find your love with diagrams on a plain brown envelope (brown)
that is your vision growing dim (pale)
And he puts on his dark glasses (black)

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Interesting, we had almost the same list, but with a totally different meaning.

Yours was a tough one. And I don't think that I really solved it. But ok, here goes ...

I'm trying to come up with something difficult. But for the combined masterminds of Australia, Russia, and ... Steven-Land there is apparently no riddle too tricky to solve.

How about this one?

A song that is not about fond feelings between monks.
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If you have attended a LC concert in 2008, you have heard this song. And you haven't.
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Hartmut wrote:A song that is not about fond feelings between monks.
But still, one might say it mentions their clothes.
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It's a song where the change in personnel between tours became very apparent.
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