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Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:12 pm
by Jimmy O'Connell
Manna,
I always thought the story was that the frog turned into a prince not that the princess turned into a frog...
Cad a tharla a Chailin?
Seamas
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:23 pm
by Jimmy O'Connell
Serious comment, Manna.
Nice images, and I see the red... but... I really... really have a problem when one is asked to write a poem on a given theme. I believe it to be a pointless exercise... Where's the soul...???
Your prose piece was better. There really really is a very good poem there...
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:26 pm
by Manna
I had a prose piece?
and I think I fixed the picture. It seemed to take a vacation.
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:31 pm
by Jimmy O'Connell
Prose piece:
"Everything about the rain fascinates me...."
Maybe I shudda read it as a poem....???
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:42 pm
by Manna
gee, I was just writing. talking. I didn't consider that a "piece" at all. ha ha ha.
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:52 pm
by Jimmy O'Connell
... and what is a pome anyway...???
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:15 am
by Red Poppy
Jimmy O'Connell wrote:Where's the soul...???
Fellas, mainly, have been trying to work that one out for centuries!

Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:06 am
by Manna

Fellas...
Easy, my soul is kind of wrapped up in my body.
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:39 am
by Jimmy O'Connell
A Chailin,
The idea, though, is to try and get it wrapped up into the poem...
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:09 am
by Red Poppy
Yes, in the main (unfortunately or otherwise) the searchers have been men. A few exceptions. Perhaps that's why it has never been located

Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:44 pm
by lizzytysh
If they'd just stopped and asked for directions...
~ Lizzy
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:44 pm
by Manna
Jimmy O'Connell wrote:A Chailin,
The idea, though, is to try and get it wrapped up into the poem...
It's impossible to keep it out of anything you do.
But I know what you mean about poor Salsa Diana and that dying pheonix sunset. I didn't see that scene anywhere else than in my imaginization, pulled out of a smattering of words that meant red. Like those fridge magnets that are words.
For a creative writing class, I don't think it's bad to have an assignment. You can get away with a lot in a class like.
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:55 pm
by Jimmy O'Connell
Manna, a Chailin***,
Both "Salsa Diana" and especially "dying phoenix sunset", are beautiful images, but if I were running a creative class I wouldn't let you get away with the images only. I wudda pushed you.
I probably would get you to expand on what emotion etc etc is driving the image... it's the energy behind the images that is where the soul begins to be revealed.
Lizzy,
What about if there are no maps?
We are in the realm of the unknown here, and men (controversy ahead) are congenitally attracted to the realms of the unknown, while our lady companions prefer what is secure, what is home.
Men want to find a home; women are already at home.
For the masculine it's the journey, the process, that matters; for the feminine, it's the being there, the content that matters.
Poets and artists, mainly men (RP, I tend to agree), are involved in the journey of the soul, of the Dark Night of the Spirit, of discovery and then moving on, like Odysseus returning to Penelope, and getting himself into a lot of (intersting) bother on the way.
Very Jungian...
*** Cailin (Irish) = Girl or Young woman
Cail = Old Woman or Witch.
To be bewitched = to be enthralled
To be in thrall to a Cailin, is to be made a slave to a girl.
Ahhh the pain and grief that is the nature of manhood!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:27 pm
by Manna
My friend Abbie recently said something that just didn't feel right for me. It's about a never-ending discussion in our lab. Behfar has imagined a situation where all things are equal between men and women, a situation where men and women have equal freedom to follow their hearts' desires, for equal pay, etc. He believes that if this were the case, women would choose professions and courses of study other than the philosophical.
I said I didn't think so, that I thought men and women have a pretty equal interest in figuring out how to think, what to believe, etc. I said that men and women approach the same problems, just with different faculty, from different directions.
Abbie walked in on our discussion and she said, "Well, yeah. Men are the thinkers, women are the doers." This was not the first time that I have felt more masculine than my sisters. There were a few of us standing around having this conversation. There were the ones who agreed with Behfar and Abbie, the abstainers, and me. I think a lot of what I don't get done is because I spend time thinking about it. I'm a
Manna.
Later, I was showing Abbie a letter I had written for the purpose of introducing myself to someone I wanted to hire me. I addressed it simply:
Professor Pleiss,
Abbie read the letter, made a suggestion about something and then said, "And you might want to say
Dear Professor Pleiss."
I gave a mild look like she was crazy. I said, "I don't think I can."
She smiled, "What, why not?"
- He isn't dear to me.
- It's just convention.
- But it isn't true.
- Yeah, but...
I said, "See? A thinker to a fault."
But I do tend to use landmarks rather than maps (or an aerial mental image) for finding my way. This is more feminine of me.
Re: Little Poems I wrote - Feedback Appreciated
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:33 pm
by Manna
Jimmy O'Connell wrote:A Chailin,
The idea, though, is to try and get it wrapped up into the poem...
and he wrote:*** Cailin (Irish) = Girl or Young woman
Cail = Old Woman or Witch.
To be bewitched = to be enthralled
To be in thrall to a Cailin, is to be made a slave to a girl.
Ahhh the pain and grief that is the nature of manhood!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the idea is to get wrapped up in a girl.