First Autographed Book of Longing on Ebay

Kush · Post by **Kush** » Mon May 08, 2006 8:18 pm

Not really.... you are not allowed to make any unauthorized reproductions.
That includes officially released CDs. Plus "bootlegs" are by definition unauthorized recordings and folks are trading in unauthorized recordings. Thats illegal. It doesnt matter whether you buy or sell or trade.

But LC site is LC site, ebay is ebay and boogie street is boogie street. Thats how it goes....

LaurieAK · Post by **LaurieAK** » Mon May 08, 2006 8:21 pm

Well Dem, as long as you do not have any bootleg concert recordings of any sort (gotten by trade does not negate the fact they were illegally recorded in the first place) then I guess you can sit on a high horse and condemn the entire ebay system for a few bad apples. Personally, I appreciate their forum. Nothing is perfect. A majority of their business is legit. However, your examples of illicit transactions have zero to do with selling Leonard's book on the secondary market.

Laurie
p.s. I think that 'bootleg' recordings are a historical bag of gold. Thank goodness folks do and have done this for posterity. I think 'selling' them is blasphemy. But I wholeheartedly endorse the trade of them amongst fans. My statement to Dem was just to make a point.

linda_lakeside · Post by **linda_lakeside** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:23 pm

Although one could argue that the recording itself is illegal.

linda_lakeside · Post by **linda_lakeside** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:25 pm

Laurie, once more, you beat me to the finish line at the keyboard. I was responding to Lightning's remark. Apparently not quick enough though.

LaurieAK · Post by **LaurieAK** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:55 pm

Linda~ So that was YOU I was just racing on the treadmill.
Better luck next time

L (just back from the gym...)

Dem · Post by **Dem** » Mon May 08, 2006 11:43 pm

I love it baby when you call
the black market the ...
"secondary market"!

Dem

LaurieAK · Post by **LaurieAK** » Tue May 09, 2006 12:24 am

Well, Dem, who knew you were so easy to please?

Tarnishing the golden rule,
Laurie

Dem · Post by **Dem** » Tue May 09, 2006 12:31 am

Honey, I'm flexible.

Oh, yeah.

Dem

LaurieAK · Post by **LaurieAK** » Tue May 09, 2006 12:49 am

Darling, I can only interpret that to mean that you realize I have been right all along

Sincerely,
L.

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Tue May 09, 2006 12:38 pm

Four of the most valuable books at Abebooks.com, all offered by Inno Dubelaar shop in Toronto (used books dealer specialised for Cohen):

Book of Mercy, insigned "For Bruce Whiteman from Leonard Cohen Toronto 1984". Mr. Whiteman is a friend of Mr. Cohen and produced the definitive bibliography in 1980. Signed Cohen material is quite scarce, especially with such an interesting association.

Let Us Compare Mythologies, 1966 reprint, insigned "for Sheilagh R______ from Leonard Cohen"

Flowers for Hitler, signed, dated "June 1966"

Parastes of Heaven, inscribed, "for Sheilagh R____ from Leonard Cohen"

As it seems that Bruce Whiteman is still well & alive, it's sad to see that he decided to remove that book from his library. Even if it wasn't signed, it is the Book of Mercy. (He's author of Annotated Bibliography of Leonard Cohen, ECW Press, 1980)

tomsakic · Post by **tomsakic** » Tue May 09, 2006 1:06 pm

And here are search results for "Leonard Cohen, Signed" as queries. The books are pretty expensive, and tehre are many signed Stranger Music from 150 US $ up.

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And this is totally UNBELIEVABLE:

Stranger Music, 350 US$, signed, "To Phil, Let's make another record. Leonard, Los Angeles, 1994."

LaurieAK · Post by **LaurieAK** » Tue May 09, 2006 5:27 pm

Hi Tom~

I did the same Abebooks search the other day after seeing that first Book of Longing sell on ebay for $300. I did notice that both the others that were on ebay ended up at around $200 @.

Anyways, whenever there is a personalized signature such as the ones offered on Abe it always seems tragic. Like either the recipient has died, or has fallen on such hard times they are forced to sell things they treasure. Of course, if that Phil Spector book it legit, I can't imagine he falls into either of those categories.

Although I'm pretty much priced out of these signed books, I am glad once again to see the "value" of Leonard's books and signature in the public's opinion.

regards,
Laurie

Dem · Post by **Dem** » Tue May 09, 2006 6:22 pm

Tom,

it is not UNBELIEVABLE.

Phil Spector is just UNPREDICTABLE.

(on the condition that the item
comes indeed from Spector)

Dem

linda_lakeside · Post by **linda_lakeside** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:09 pm

I think that's Sheilagh Rogers from CBC!! She's always going on about LC, and how much she admires him. Does she 'really' need to supplement her income in such a way? I could understand it if she were out of work, and couldn't pay the bills, but under the circumstances it's like 'betrayal'. I have a signed CD, and I'm not thinking of putting it on the block. Or any of my 'memorabilia'.

How much money does a person need? Is $300 really going to change someones life? I see now, why sports stars are often reluctant to sign autographs. Some even charge to sign something.

Linda.

LaurieAK · Post by **LaurieAK** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:34 pm

Hey Linda~

Interesting about Sheilagh Rogers being a public figure.

I still can't imagine anything but an ominous reason for parting with such a treasure. Especially if, as you say she is a big fan. I could see if I was ill maybe doing something like this...Of course I am just speculating. Her inscribed book is selling for over $1200, still not anything to quit one's job over.

It seems to me, there is a big difference to have personal inscription vs. a generic signature. The first being a pursued, treasured, personal act. The latter (generic sig.) is ripe for profiteers who view it as a commodity not a treasure.

So that is why I can't help but think it is not an pure act of greed to part with one's personally inscribed item. It seems a sad occassion.

But, I know next to nothing....and speculate wildly

L