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Yes, I'm sure if you took a Poll, Lizzy's victims would be out-numbered by those she has drenched in her "niceness."
Serial killers only kill a small percentage of potential victims. I don't think this minimizes their behavior.
Or saying, "Well, they didn't kill ME!" is a rational option, either.

Been there. Done that.
Laurie

Credibility.

I've never had any of that.


YdF

Young dr. Freud wrote:Credibility.

I've never had any of that.


YdF

To thine own self be true YdF!

And it shall follow as the night the day thou canst not then be false to any man.

Shakespeare was a card.


YdF

Tchocolatl wrote:
>Snow . . . what you did was horrible.


Is this your way of telling me I am starting to fit in here?

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Been there. Done that.
Laurie

< * and still doing it, returning to spread more of that sweet goodwill of yours * >

~ Lizzy

LaurieAK wrote:Yes, I'm sure if you took a Poll, Lizzy's victims would be out-numbered by those she has drenched in her "niceness."
Serial killers only kill a small percentage of potential victims. I don't think this minimizes their behavior.
Or saying, "Well, they didn't kill ME!" is a rational option, either.

Been there. Done that.
Laurie

Laurie, this is strange because I am reading this board for many years now, and I would feel all the contrary : I would bet that there is much more "victims" than happy people. Only like you know dead people don't talk. They are not supposed to vote either.

So once they are "dead" the few feared/zombified people left will say like the bully. Any Machiavel would tell you that, dear.

For me, I don't feel her victim at all. As everything is written, I'm confident that clear minds are reading clearly, even between the most twisted lines. So twisted that this thread has noting to do with the one I "closed" once. So I don't mind to answer to this "new" one. Let say it is a sub-thread into the sub-thread of the thread.

As, I said she may be a nice person, but she just don't know what respect is. You ask nicely to please, make silence, for a while, you even not adress this request to her but to somebody else, she don't care for me, she don't take the time to analyse the situation, she goes on and on, and on and on and on and on and on. This is not nice. But I don't think that she cares at all. Her good manners of 5 years old child are all in superficie and it is well enough to lure enough naive fellows that are passing by. Well, she asked for it attention, she has it, now. Maybe it is more important than anyting else. Who I am to know about those big mysteries?

Snow, dear, I made my share of mistakes, here, as well as everybody, but, wow, I don't think the total of them is big as this one. Now, you are making me laugh, this is not serious.

Hey, John ~

Over here ~ into the sub-sub-thread of the sub-thread of the thread ~ where rationale's paramount ~ shhhhhh:

"Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject:

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Lizzy - I was thinking of sending you a PM to comment on how calm the forum has been this week...there's been a bit less anger and vile language being thrown around. This is of course directly proportional to the number of posts being left by certain individuals.

As I read this thread I decided to post this as a public comment, as I realized how starkly certain posts stand out for their nastiness.

Just as all things ebb and flow, I'm sure the tone of voice in the forum will too, but this week has been especially pleasant."

< * that's what you get, buddy ~ well, and Snow's riling red flag ~ put out the bait and the wild ones come ~ animal instincts ~ Law of Nature * >

Hope your day is going well .

~ Lizzy

shhhhhh

Oups. Correction in this part : but she just does not know what respect is. You ask nicely to please, make silence, for a while, you even not adress this request to her but to somebody else, she does not care for me, she does not take the time to analyse the situation, she goes on and on, and on and on and on and on and on."

In fact it is such an obvious ignorance about what respect is, respect for others and also for oneself, that at this point a lot of compassion is needed. I am an all over compassionate person. No problem. And patience, (But, ey! now patience is not my main characteristic) because respect, not superficial good manners, I mean deep real respect, like another language, can be learned with time, willingness and practice. Practice not being the less important, though. Practice, pratice practice. And learn from your mistakes. Of course.

And guess what? Life is even better after : free from the cell of fake-artificial-dead-alive-zombie links with others, no more non-appropriate fear of being "a target", of the sicked-need of being approved in all what you do (what you do and what you are are two very different things - by others. Life after you learn what respect is is just plain real nourrishing links full of ordinary, so extraordinay life with its bright and dark sides.

I don't know how difficult it is for some persons, particularly if they are depressed, to go check if the door of their cell is locked or not, to take this chance, but, certainly that does not take more energy than to vomit on other people with all their strenght.

Now I need fresh air, I wish you fresh air to, an a nice week-end, all of you

As I had said only a couple of days ago, all things ebb and flow....

Thanks for the reminder Lizzy.

No problem, John ~

Now, the real issue is that "edited" line you gave me .

~ Lizzy

As, I said she may be a nice person, but she just don't know what respect is. You ask nicely to please, make silence, for a while, you even not adress this request to her but to somebody else, she don't care for me, she don't take the time to analyse the situation, she goes on and on, and on and on and on and on and on.

Tchoco - a very good post Tchoco, that one, - not only this, the quote is excellent, as is the all post. Tchoco- you are a mystery to me.

Bee,

I also think there is PM messages that add to the fog of what is really happening in the thread.

You know, "you are my friend, buddy, and see how I am nice and see how this post is awful" (well more subtil and done with more craft - but I am not good at this, I never practice) and then it is easy to twist the post of somebody in gang behind closed doors, than come back on the forum being 2, 3 or more having the same twisted opinion about a poster and do harassment. I try to understand why people are doing such a thing, maybe it gives a false sentiment of force and security, of being part of a community "against" others. I don't know. But this is truly sick.

I was sollicited to do this kind of things, you know, and I did not follow. Maybe this explains a certain fury around me and the pamper-temper around other persons who are more docile to play this game. I could not know.

This is why I prefer the open spaces, at least vomit can not be mistaken for a delicate dish in the full light, and there is fresh air, here.

It is awful to see how some people can not admit having done a mistake : either they try to avoid the reality, or they have to put the blame on circumstances, other people, or rather they prefer kill the messenger. This is sick also.

These kinds of behaviors sure do not help to go out of a depression and really enjoy life.

But as I wrote, I never put the blame on the means, not that I blame people also, I question the use of the mean and people judgment, that's all. In general people have good jugdment, common sense. I am not worry for me.

Tchoc ~

I know I've never solicited you, I'm prepared to fight my battles on my own; and the barrage of your own postings and vitriol regarding Tom and Jurica, and then apparently your desire for 'silence' [after you had said all you wanted to say ~ never mind its impact], and then hostile reaction to my having said something positive [and brief!] about Tom, and all that has followed, has nothing to do with the PM world, whatsoever. It's a matter of those "good and sane" people you keep referring to and heralding.

~ Lizzy