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Pinter has been quoted in other places on the Forum.
All the chickens (not bird flu) are now coming home to roost.
Decisions made always have consequences.
Choices made always have a loose thread or two hanging in the wind.
Leaks performed leave a trail to their faucet.
Ears can provide a sounding board for opened forums
Keeping one's friends close, must also carry the caveat that, one's enemies must be kept closer.
Lessons not learned create repetitions of continual poor judgement.

I would not be the least bit surprised to hear that he is going to wage a war on birdflu. Helicopter gunships will be deployed to hit swallows and swifts in their hidden nests. Egyptian Ibis, will be singled out for Special Forces Operations. etc., etc., etc.

Both sides continue to call on the deity they share.

Well, I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said:
"Stop. Don't do it."

"Why shouldn't I?" he asked.

"Well, there's so much to live for!"

"Like what?"

"Are you religious?"

He said: "Yes."

I said: "Me too. Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

"Christian."

"Me too. Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

"Protestant."

"Me too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

"Baptist."

"Wow. Me too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

"Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

"Reformed Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"

He said: "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915."

I said: "Die, heretic scum," and pushed him off the bridge.

I didn't write this.

It is from http://www.shipoffools.com a Christian website.

I was already laughing at the humour you were mining from a very serious situation with the avian flu .

Then:


I love this because of one day, when I was working in Ocala, Florida, I happened to need to find a phone number for a particular church, whose type and general location I knew, I went to the Yellow Pages of the telephone book, and got similarly lost in this very process .

I've also been in attendance at some church services, where this very competition/condemnation 'game' was espoused from the pulpit.

This is priceless. I'm glad to know it came from a Christian website, one obviously able to laugh at itself; and well aware [as in not in denial] of one of the this, particular institution's shortcomings.

Are we voting on whether or not to shoot all poor, winged creatures ?

~ Lizzy

My God can beat up your God.

Oh, I know !

Even if there were two of them, they'd be looking at us, and then each other, like this ~



..........



Probably some in both directions, too.





~ Lizzy

Surely like this, and only the One....


While this fella sits on his captain's chair...... Surrounded by

True on the One [even if it did give me an edited line ]......except that concept, in the typically-conceived sense, has been problematical for me, personally.

Hell is other people - Sartre.

I think I'd expand on that one a bit and include "and ourselves" ~ since we seem to have our own 'demons' that don't always seem to come from others [though they may ~ every last one of them ~ won't that be a great washing of the hands for us ?].

I think positive forces/negative forces; positive energies/negative energies; sits better with me ~ but, if someone said, "Yeah? So, what's the difference?" I'd pretty much have to concede. The essence remains the same ~ it's just the 'figure' and the 'physical place/reality' of Satan and Hell that I don't subscribe to.

For me, the most impacting description of "Hell" [heard when I was regularly attending a particular ~ beloved by me ~ church] wasn't anything about the typical "fires" and "physical punishments," etc. ~ but was simply "An eternal separation from G~d." The desolation of that resonated with me and was enough. For me, it said it all and said it well.

~ Lizzy

linmag wrote:I came across the following quote in a Reuters article on my web browser the day Robin Cook resigned.

"Aides believe Blair can ride the political damage as long as war in Iraq is short and does not result in the deaths of thousands of innocents or British soldiers."

Muffins every time for me!

From the very first page of this thread! From March 26th 2003 !!!

AND, he's still there!

In the 'light' of recent disclosures, I wish to propose that GWB, be given his own Patron Saint.

His close advisors, (men and women) and all those who align themselves with his unique vision and place in history, can join him in sharing a Patron Saint.

Borders, rivers and oceans will not preclude the coterie from being included.

I therefore propose that, St. Dymphna, be taken by GWB et el., as their named and unequivocal, Patron Saint.

If I knew more of Catholicism or the meaning of that word, "Dymphna" [not sure which ~ but the root of the word sounds remarkably like "dumb," "dimwit," and other such], I'd no doubt agree with you. However, because I know of what you speak, I do agree with you, and trust you on the rest.

~ Lizzy

Lizzy Dymphna was an Irish Saint who was beheaded by her Celtic father when he found out she had converted to Christianity in the 13th (I think) centuary.

Ah ~ Thanks, Ali.

Well, scratch the dumb dimwit in terms of the name. Keep it for the essence, of course.

However, yes; we'll need but do a tad shifting, and that would be Dymphna's being beheaded for not converting. However, if we could let certain activities remain in place, we would have no problem, whatsoever, with the name remaining, either ~ yes, I know.....black humour on a Sunday. For shame. For shame.

Thanks for the info, Ali.

~ Lizzy

She was also the Patron Saint for mental illness.

You may notice a recurrent theme in her causes. Quite apt.


http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintd01.htm