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Thanks, Byron! I'll get to it ASAP. At the moment, my neighbour-friend is about to walk throught the door. My dentist has photographs of dolphins everywhere in her office [to induce calm]. She has an incredible, "statuette"-style business card holder that I would love to have.

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Great website, Byron!
Beautiful artwork too! But the stories and photos of the wild dolphins who have chosen to interact with people is absolutely wonderful. :D
Lizzy and Susanne, you are going to love this site! (Especially Olin.)
Thanks for that, Byron. I've even signed up for the Bimini e-newsletter. 8)

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PS. Interesting the 'coincidence' with my Dolphin Dancing poem, :wink: now somewhere on page 2 of the Poetry Forum.
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Lizzytysh, it must have been a great and touching experience to be so close to the dolphins and to have the chance to feed them! :D

Byron, what a wonderful dolphin site! :D
Thank you for sharing!
Your cousin's artwork is just fantastic - so lovingly and excellently painted!
The dolphin photos are also great!

Makera, I LOVE the story of Olin and Mapsutta! It's so touching and wonderful! :D
The article is from April 2001 - I do hope the two of them are still fine!!!

BTW I've just posted on your BEAUTIFUL poem "Dolphin Dancing"!

Love, Susanne :)
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I'll be happy when I get the chance to explore all these sites, Byron and Makera! I'll return to your poem, as well, Makera :wink: . I've just returned from the video store where I bought "8 Mile" [I'm still trying, my dear friend, Paula :D ~ and there were four copies available ~ I even paid "top dollar" sale price for it @ $9.99 USD] and need to go back, as I had them hold another one, till I returned with more money :lol: .

Yes, Susanne, you're so right, it was delightful and sublime :D . "Touching" really says it. I used to go after work and sit on the rocks on the edge of her pool, and just talk softly to her. She would just "sit" and look at me and do little things that made it seem that she understood. Then, she'd swim away and do something sweet, as though she knew I appreciated her "showing off" and then return to me. I loved it.

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Let me know how you get on with it Lizzie. $9.99 is only about £6 here we have to pay £13.99 for it. We get really ripped off on videos, CD's and DVD's in Britain. :?
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Oh dear, you know I'll do that, Paula :lol: !

New prices are about the same as that here, Paula. Is that what you would pay for a USED ["Already Viewed" ~ or some such thing, they call it] one!?!
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Hi Susanne, and thank you again. :D
Lizzy~ Your personal interaction with that dolphin sounds so heart-warming, and so characteristic of them. They do seem so much more aware than one would think possible. Even the ones they had at Taronga Park Zoo (in Sydney, Australia) would literally 'pose' for people with cameras; i.e. when they saw someone with a camera they'd start leaping etc. which delighted the picture-takers. The sadder perspective on that is, that being in such a confined, sterile and boring 'environment', their only entertainment/stimulation was the interactive emotional response they could get from the human on-lookers. :( They are such social beings.

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I absolutely agree, Makera ~ my sentiments exactly! Even as I sat at the edge of her pool....... :cry: .

Susanne, I wanted to add that "thrilling," "sheerly thrilling" was another emotional effect of feeding her.

Maximally ambivalent :D :cry: , it all was, both Makera and Susanne. We know something of them, yet so much remains unexplored. They are truly social beings, with so much depth [no pun intended].

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Paula :D ~

Do you already own it? Would you like it? We can consider it a right-on-time Christmas present :D . Never know when you might want to show it, to sensitize a newcomer to him :wink: . And who'd've ever thunk this day would come with us :shock: :wink: !?! And an Eminem tape to boot :lol: !

If not this, I'll come up with another Christmas prezzie for ya :D .

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Lizzie I would take you up on that offer but we are incompatable :lol:

We use PAL and you use something foreign. I go down boot fairs and buy videos, DVD's and CD's there for a couple of quid. It is only if you want chart stuff you have to buy it new.

I just bought an old Jamican film called "The Countryman" at a bootfair for £4 and they are going for £20 on ebay. You can sometimes get a bargain.
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I enjoyed reading about your experiences with the dophins Lizzy.
I and my family had a wonderful experience a few years back not with dolphins but with their smaller cousins, porpoises. We were out at sea (not too far from shore) in a small boat with an outboard motor which we had cut and were just bobbing about in the water enjoying a beautiful day. We were suddenly aware that our boat was surrounded by about a dozen or so of these lovely animals. They swam round the boat so close that we could have reached out and touched them. For me the crowning moment was when one turned on its side and I swear it was looking me straight in the eye. It is a moment that I will never forget and I feel veryhumbled by the experience.

I do feel that the whole thing about dolphins sometimes gets a bit too romanticised though. They are wild creatures and like all the creatures on earth have another side to them particularly when they perceive that their survival is being threatened. There is a 'resident' school of dophins in the waters of the Moray Firth on the north east coast of Scotland. They delight the visitors and residents of the beautiful Black Isle peninsula where they are often spotted carrying out their sea gymnastics. They are monitored by a dolphin watch group and have been observed and filmed attacking the harbour porpoises that also live in these waters. It is thought that the dolphins see the porpoises as competitors for their food source and attack them because of this. Not only do they attack the porpoises but they 'play' with them, throwing them up in the air and virtually play volleyball with them until the porpoise is left for dead if not already so. I think that this serves to illustrate how we should respect the wildness in all of nature and maybe not get too sentimental about wild animals.

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That's a very interesting account, Rock Rose. You're right that we should always respect the fact that they're wild. That's a heartbreaking scene that you describe. It's very sadly reminiscent of cats with mice/birds/anything else they can turn into play. I know, also, that it's been reported that, on occasion, in the closed-quarters swimming with dolphins, they have been known to catch a person between themselves and a sea wall and begun to crush them. In play? Or because there was something about that person they didn't like? Who knows? A scarey thought, but I'd still risk it for the opportunity to swim with them. I absolutely know that the dolphin looked you straight in the eye. They do that, and make a connection, the same as we do with each other. I know what you mean about being humbled by it all. My own sentimentality with regard to wild animals centers more around their survival [including the porpoises you speak of], and secondarily with my feeling privileged to get close to and establish any kind of contact with them.

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Oh no, Paula :shock: ! You can't mean that :lol: ! You and me :? !?! Oh dear, what's a girl to do...... :shock: :wink: .

Well, then, oookaaaay for you! Guess I'll have to figure out a Plan B.

Whenever I see "quid," I think of squid. What denomination is that?

Same here on the chart stuff, but you get some really good deals! I'll be interested to hear how the Jamaican movie is.

Back to the drawing board...... :)

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A quid is slang for a pound. We have not yet been forced to have the Euro. I hope we never do.

I saw The Countryman in the 70's and it was a really good film but now I have seen it again I think I must have been watching another film it is crap :lol:

I had the same problems with my memories of Cheech and Chong. I bought a film recently that may me laugh my socks off in the 70's watched it last week - complete and utter rubbish. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be :lol:
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Neither is weed :wink: .
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