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hydriot wrote:

mydoglorca wrote:So feel rather annoyed with people who haven't spent a penny telling me to relax. We are now nearly a week since the first announcement of an announcement & still waiting.

Agreed.

As Kipling didn't quite write:

"If you can keep your head while all about are losing theirs...
Perhaps you don't understand the situation?"

hoho. this made me laugh out loud. a rare treat...

Let's be honest here,too reiterate.

There must be many people who are going to see LC who have booked hotels & travel who have never been on this site. That being the case,other people will also still be buying tickets, booking hotels & travel. Some will certainly also be making arrangements maybe for babysitters, dog sitters etc, time off work, many, many things come in to play when you are going abroad for a concert. I wonder how they might feel, when and if they find out that all this has been debated on here and they were not p^re-warned as to any problems at all?

I know how I would feel and going by the sound of all us on here of that have been pre-warned (too late in many cases) if we are angry and annoyed, how will they be, if their venue is cancelled and the problems were known before they bought?

Hi again
I got news for you
LC got "small" health problems that's why the Caen concert is postponed
BUT there will be a concert in CAEN
They get the annonce 'REPORTE" off
They'll have final dates next tuesday
That's why they still sell tickets
From "authorized" sources
Voilà
Léonard Cohen a des "petits" problèmes de santé, les dates seront indiquées mardi prochain MAIS il y aura un concert à CAEN
C'est pourquoi ils continuent de venfre les tickets
Ils ont retiré le bandeau "REPORTE" dans l'attente des dates finales des concerts
De source autorisée (!!!)
Daniel

Reply to Vicomte.
Correct. I've spoken to many people at the concerts who have never heard of this site. People who have 'followed' LC for years.

Vicomte wrote:...
There must be many people who are going to see LC who have booked hotels & travel who have never been on this site. ....
I wonder how they might feel, when and if they find out that all this has been debated on here and they were not p^re-warned as to any problems at all?...

Yes, exactly. And that's why it's time (and overdue) to finally get some notification.

I am very fortunate that I have to make this trip in March anyway as I have some private business to deal with as well, so I don't really lose anything.
But even so, it still makes me very angry. The topic of the announcement is clearly already known by some (management, AEG etc), so it must be their duty to inform those affected asap, whatever it might be.

Also, what happens if a concert is rescheduled and I can't go - will I get my money back or will i be left with tickets i can't use and have to try to sell them myself?

Let us hope that AEG hold their hands up to creating this fiasco and offer to help those who will suffer financially - a naive thought I know, but they are a big enough organisation and will certainly be making a penny or two out of the tours to enable them to do this - indeed as someone mentioned earlier on they must have their own insurance to cover most eventualities.

Funnily enough I don't think this will happen, as customer service is not high on their agenda, judging by the past few days and pages and pages of comments here.

if this is true covow, it is obvious why it has taken so long for the announcement to come out, to see if he would be well enough to perform, they may have thought best to wait and see.

davidrichards and osmacar, tickets for concerts are generally refundable if a gig is cancelled or rescheduled and the date does not suit. AEG are not responsible for anyone who has made travel arrangements. You are the ones who should ensure that your hotel and flights can be changed if necessary, not a concert ticket seller.

osmachar wrote:

Vicomte wrote:...
There must be many people who are going to see LC who have booked hotels & travel who have never been on this site. ....
I wonder how they might feel, when and if they find out that all this has been debated on here and they were not p^re-warned as to any problems at all?...

Yes, exactly. And that's why it's time (and overdue) to finally get some notification.

I am very fortunate that I have to make this trip in March anyway as I have some private business to deal with as well, so I don't really lose anything.
But even so, it still makes me very angry. The topic of the announcement is clearly already known by some (management, AEG etc), so it must be their duty to inform those affected asap, whatever it might be.

Why rush notification out and halt ticket sales until the rescheduled dates are confirmed, when they can still cash in on people who are completely oblivious to any problems?

If it's a case of increasing profits or increasing customer service, for a big company like AEG, profits are always going to be the number one priority.

confetti wrote:if this is true covow, it is obvious why it has taken so long for the announcement to come out, to see if he would be well enough to perform, they may have thought best to wait and see,

That may have been the case at first, but it certainly hasnt been the case since at least Wednesday when the sign was spotted at Caen saying "postponed," and certainly isnt the case now. Yet they are waiting until next Monday or Tuesday to make the issue known, and the rescheduled dates available.

covow wrote:Hi again
I got news for you
LC got "small" health problems that's why the Caen concert is postponed
BUT there will be a concert in CAEN
They get the annonce 'REPORTE" off
They'll have final dates next tuesday
That's why they still sell tickets
From "authorized" sources
Voilà
Léonard Cohen a des "petits" problèmes de santé, les dates seront indiquées mardi prochain MAIS il y aura un concert à CAEN
C'est pourquoi ils continuent de venfre les tickets
Ils ont retiré le bandeau "REPORTE" dans l'attente des dates finales des concerts
De source autorisée (!!!)
Daniel

If this is the case, I am sorry to hear that Leonard is unwell. I hope it is nothing serious.

Confetti states
"AEG are not responsible for anyone who has made travel arrangements. You are the ones who should ensure that your hotel and flights can be changed if necessary, not a concert ticket seller."

Of course you are right but that begs the question, why continue to sell tickets if you are aware that there is even the likelihood of a cancellation/postponement. Whilst it is not illegal to continue with the sale it is certainly immoral and indicative of their concern for customer satisfaction.

As a point of interest - How many people do now pay "the full price" for travel and accomodation, maybe those who have more money than most of us.

I cannot believe that anyone on this Forum can defend AEG given that this fiasco is totally of their own making. We as Leonard Cohen fans are the ones to feel aggrieved.

covow wrote:Hi again
I got news for you
LC got "small" health problems that's why the Caen concert is postponed
BUT there will be a concert in CAEN
They get the annonce 'REPORTE" off
They'll have final dates next tuesday
That's why they still sell tickets
From "authorized" sources
Voilà
Léonard Cohen a des "petits" problèmes de santé, les dates seront indiquées mardi prochain MAIS il y aura un concert à CAEN
C'est pourquoi ils continuent de venfre les tickets
Ils ont retiré le bandeau "REPORTE" dans l'attente des dates finales des concerts
De source autorisée (!!!)
Daniel

Hi Covow
Welcome to the forum
What is the source for this ? You are stating it as if it were fact - i'd wouldn't like to think it's just more speculation . If leonard has a health problem ,we pray it is indeed ' small'

cohenadmirer
read my mails from yesterday

Maybe what they are trying to avoid by delaying an announcement until all the details are known is the disaster that the public equivalent of the past 38 pages would amount to, especially if the reason is health related and especially in view of the worldwide media coverage of the Valencia situation last September.

Wendy

Mabeanie1 wrote:Maybe what they are trying to avoid by delaying an announcement until all the details are known is the disaster that the public equivalent of the past 38 pages would amount to, especially if the reason is health related and especially in view of the worldwide media coverage of the Valencia situation last September.

Wendy

Then why not simply announce the tour is postponed and leave it at that for the time being? There is already a sign up outside Caen stating this for goodness sake.

If it is a health-related issue, then surely it is a minor one, or they wouldn't have been waiting to see if maybe the tour could still go ahead as planned (in just 3 weeks!) and if it was serious, they would be cancelling the shows full stop, not rescheduling them.