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Dear Elizabeth (Boadicea) and Byron (Joan of Arc),
What a delightful exchange between the two of you, though "delightful" is as far as it goes: the relentless march of science must continue.
Speaking of relentless marching, you may wish to know some more details of the life of your ancestor, Elizabeth,....Queen Boudicca.
"Her husband, Prasutagus, an ally of Rome, had shrewdly made the emperor Nero his co-heir, but when he died in A.D. 60 the Romans annexed all the Iceni territory and pillaged it. According to Tacitus, Boudicca was flogged and her daughters raped. The Iceni rose in fury and, led by Boudicca, destroyed the Roman colony of Camulodunum (Colchester), sacked and burned Londinium (London) and razed Verulamium (St. Albans), killing up to 70,000 Romans. The Roman governor of Britain, Suetonius Paulinus, who had been absent in Mona (Angelsey) in north Wales, gathered two legions and overwhelmed the Iceni in a bloody battle somewhere in the Midlands. Some 80,000 of the tribesmen were slaughtered, against only 400 Roman dead, and Boudicca herself is said to have taken poison".
Elizabeth, didn't I say this was the stuff of movies?
Byron, even your ancester, The Maid of Orleans, didn't participate in such a healthy body-bag count.
Elizabeth, I realise that you will need some time to recover from these revelations, given your 20th (and 21st) century anti-war stance, but them genetic codes don't lie baby.
Yours, in the appliance of science,
DNArew.
What a delightful exchange between the two of you, though "delightful" is as far as it goes: the relentless march of science must continue.
Speaking of relentless marching, you may wish to know some more details of the life of your ancestor, Elizabeth,....Queen Boudicca.
"Her husband, Prasutagus, an ally of Rome, had shrewdly made the emperor Nero his co-heir, but when he died in A.D. 60 the Romans annexed all the Iceni territory and pillaged it. According to Tacitus, Boudicca was flogged and her daughters raped. The Iceni rose in fury and, led by Boudicca, destroyed the Roman colony of Camulodunum (Colchester), sacked and burned Londinium (London) and razed Verulamium (St. Albans), killing up to 70,000 Romans. The Roman governor of Britain, Suetonius Paulinus, who had been absent in Mona (Angelsey) in north Wales, gathered two legions and overwhelmed the Iceni in a bloody battle somewhere in the Midlands. Some 80,000 of the tribesmen were slaughtered, against only 400 Roman dead, and Boudicca herself is said to have taken poison".
Elizabeth, didn't I say this was the stuff of movies?
Byron, even your ancester, The Maid of Orleans, didn't participate in such a healthy body-bag count.
Elizabeth, I realise that you will need some time to recover from these revelations, given your 20th (and 21st) century anti-war stance, but them genetic codes don't lie baby.
Yours, in the appliance of science,
DNArew.
Dear Andrew ~
I do appreciate and commend you on your commitment to your professional endeavours. Thank you for being only minimally tolerant of Byron's and my delightful exchanges, so as to remain on your course.
Through the relatively few and shorter-getting years, I've had my suspicions, yet they remained persistently vague and irrevocably imbedded in my sub-co....until now. The archives of my mind are forever indebted. It may take a few lifetimes to make it right with you, Genome, but believe me when, "well, I declare" that I surely will.
You explain so much that you will never know and, if I told you, I'd have to kill you. I can withstand the revelation. With 150,400 lying about, I could ill afford to be faint of heart. No matter how the history books read, believe me when I tell you the true story known only to me. My demise had nothing to do with the trauma of battle, my own responsibility therein, or the fall of any empire. It was my sheer inability to go on with my head held high when there, apart from all the rest, and accompanied by a cat named Charlie, stood someone with the initial of p., or was it p.p., who refused to join with me in my Mutual Admiration Society. The shame and humiliation were more than I could bear and the poison, any poison, was preferable. With this breakthrough you have made, it is beginning to come back to me in waves. Yes. I remember choosing my poison. Only now do I realize that herstory may, once again, repeat herself.
Adieu
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Boadicea
I do appreciate and commend you on your commitment to your professional endeavours. Thank you for being only minimally tolerant of Byron's and my delightful exchanges, so as to remain on your course.
Through the relatively few and shorter-getting years, I've had my suspicions, yet they remained persistently vague and irrevocably imbedded in my sub-co....until now. The archives of my mind are forever indebted. It may take a few lifetimes to make it right with you, Genome, but believe me when, "well, I declare" that I surely will.
You explain so much that you will never know and, if I told you, I'd have to kill you. I can withstand the revelation. With 150,400 lying about, I could ill afford to be faint of heart. No matter how the history books read, believe me when I tell you the true story known only to me. My demise had nothing to do with the trauma of battle, my own responsibility therein, or the fall of any empire. It was my sheer inability to go on with my head held high when there, apart from all the rest, and accompanied by a cat named Charlie, stood someone with the initial of p., or was it p.p., who refused to join with me in my Mutual Admiration Society. The shame and humiliation were more than I could bear and the poison, any poison, was preferable. With this breakthrough you have made, it is beginning to come back to me in waves. Yes. I remember choosing my poison. Only now do I realize that herstory may, once again, repeat herself.
Adieu

Boadicea
Dear Mr. Genome ~
You will furthermore note my judicious avoidance in mentioning the Italy connection. After the centuries it's taken to finally make the peace, I simply determined to let volcanoes go unerupted, troops rest in peace, and sleeping dogs lie. You know, you annihilate the troops and then..........well, it's tough. It's just tough.
You will furthermore note my judicious avoidance in mentioning the Italy connection. After the centuries it's taken to finally make the peace, I simply determined to let volcanoes go unerupted, troops rest in peace, and sleeping dogs lie. You know, you annihilate the troops and then..........well, it's tough. It's just tough.
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JTS A very good likeness? I also noted that you had managed to put a new roof on your palatial country 2nd Home. No wonder the local young people cannot afford the latest peppercorn mortgage when they cannot get on 'the falling into ruin' property market in that area. A letter to my local MP (Maximus Publicanus) will be scribed onto my best wax tablet and despatched forthwith via 18th Century Canal System. (who says we're not up to date in this part of the world???) 

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Dear tom.d.stiller,
It has absolutely nothing to do with the first name, but g-gnomic evidence has revealed that you are inextricably linked to Thomas Paine (1737-1809). More details will follow, but in the meantime please accept the certitude of research.
Pour a three -fingered glass for "The Rights Of Man".
As aye,
DNArew.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the first name, but g-gnomic evidence has revealed that you are inextricably linked to Thomas Paine (1737-1809). More details will follow, but in the meantime please accept the certitude of research.
Pour a three -fingered glass for "The Rights Of Man".
As aye,
DNArew.
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DNArew,
how accurate the works of your G-gnomes is!
"These are the times that try men's souls," quoth I, and had my first three fingers on "The Crisis", an early collection of pamphlets, where I (mind that, Linda!) supported a war! What a young gun I was, then!
Thrice three fingers had to follow, on "The Age of Reason", on "The Rights of Men" and my war-mongering "Common Sense".
The rest of the bottle went down contemplating the possible title of my biography: "On the long-run success of being a failure"
Tom
how accurate the works of your G-gnomes is!
"These are the times that try men's souls," quoth I, and had my first three fingers on "The Crisis", an early collection of pamphlets, where I (mind that, Linda!) supported a war! What a young gun I was, then!
Thrice three fingers had to follow, on "The Age of Reason", on "The Rights of Men" and my war-mongering "Common Sense".
The rest of the bottle went down contemplating the possible title of my biography: "On the long-run success of being a failure"
Tom
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Dear Pete,
Your genomic codes have travelled the furthest back, over two millenniums, to ancient Greece. This has been the most difficult case, so far, and I tried my best to disprove the evidence, but I succumbed to science.
You are genetically linked to Euclid (dob. c 300bc).
His "Elements of Geometry" , in 13 books, is the earliest substantial Greek mathematical treatise to have survived, and is probably better known than any other mathematical book, having been printed in countless editions. He wrote the first mathematical book to be printed, and it has stood as a model of rigorous exposition for centuries.
Pete, please allow me to offer a personal opinion in what is, after all, objective scientific research: I think Euclid's proof (by means of "reductio ad absurdum") that prime numbers are infinite is one of the most beautiful pieces of mathematics ever written.
Yours,
DNArew.
Your genomic codes have travelled the furthest back, over two millenniums, to ancient Greece. This has been the most difficult case, so far, and I tried my best to disprove the evidence, but I succumbed to science.
You are genetically linked to Euclid (dob. c 300bc).
His "Elements of Geometry" , in 13 books, is the earliest substantial Greek mathematical treatise to have survived, and is probably better known than any other mathematical book, having been printed in countless editions. He wrote the first mathematical book to be printed, and it has stood as a model of rigorous exposition for centuries.
Pete, please allow me to offer a personal opinion in what is, after all, objective scientific research: I think Euclid's proof (by means of "reductio ad absurdum") that prime numbers are infinite is one of the most beautiful pieces of mathematics ever written.
Yours,
DNArew.
I don't know about your scientific research, but I have irrefutable esoteric proof that my esteemed espouse is descended from Boticelli and /or a garden gnome.
"... to make a pale imitation of reality with twenty-six juggled letters"
"... all words are lies because they can only represent one of many levels of being"
Sober noises of morning in a marginal land.
"... all words are lies because they can only represent one of many levels of being"
Sober noises of morning in a marginal land.
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Well maybe I should have conceded that the time spent with the pure malt was trying my liver rather than my soul...
Isn't it surprising, Elizabeth and Byron, that our ancestors have been real bellicose people, Boudicca, Joan, Thomas? Seems that we have learned from early mistakes? (Or are we just getting soft?)
I have to confess that - even before knowing the G-nomic facts - I always liked Thomas Paine, and I still hold that the war he supported was a justifiable one. He didn't rebel without a cause - maybe that's why he's never been forgiven?
Puzzled by the G-Nomes...
Tom

Isn't it surprising, Elizabeth and Byron, that our ancestors have been real bellicose people, Boudicca, Joan, Thomas? Seems that we have learned from early mistakes? (Or are we just getting soft?)
I have to confess that - even before knowing the G-nomic facts - I always liked Thomas Paine, and I still hold that the war he supported was a justifiable one. He didn't rebel without a cause - maybe that's why he's never been forgiven?
Puzzled by the G-Nomes...
Tom
Dear Mr DNArew,
You have taken me by surprise here.
You say that you have resorted to science as a means of proving that my DNA is of euclidean origin. I will not be convinced until I see a formal proof encompassing all the necessary rigours leading to a Q.E.D.
Maybe you have been misled by the original hypothesis within your research and that subsequent steps in your report have tangentally led you to the conclusion that you were looking for and degrees of objectively have not been taken into account.
My own research has led me back to Fibonacci but I may have misread the gene structure. The DNA sample used showed a remarkable correlation to Fibonacci and I have always had an inner sense of the golden ratio when making my way through life. How else can you explain that when I look at a member of the opposite sex I do not look at the usual attributes of 'nice legs' ' nice rear' or ' nice other things' What I do is try to mentally divide her height by the distance of her navel from the ground and, as everyone knows, if the deduced ratio comes to 1.618 then I know that I am looking at someone who is in perfect proportion i.e. the golden ratio. The golden ratio or golden number is within the Fibonacci sequence and is apparent in many aspects of nature.
I will remain with my research until you convince me otherwise... but then again, Euclid is a greater mathematician than Fibonacci .....
BTW the 'golden string' is an aspect of the fibonacci sequence when binary is considered... surely this is not what Leonard was referring to in the 'Master Song' ??
Must rush.. I have my shells and petals to count.
Pete
You have taken me by surprise here.
You say that you have resorted to science as a means of proving that my DNA is of euclidean origin. I will not be convinced until I see a formal proof encompassing all the necessary rigours leading to a Q.E.D.
Maybe you have been misled by the original hypothesis within your research and that subsequent steps in your report have tangentally led you to the conclusion that you were looking for and degrees of objectively have not been taken into account.
My own research has led me back to Fibonacci but I may have misread the gene structure. The DNA sample used showed a remarkable correlation to Fibonacci and I have always had an inner sense of the golden ratio when making my way through life. How else can you explain that when I look at a member of the opposite sex I do not look at the usual attributes of 'nice legs' ' nice rear' or ' nice other things' What I do is try to mentally divide her height by the distance of her navel from the ground and, as everyone knows, if the deduced ratio comes to 1.618 then I know that I am looking at someone who is in perfect proportion i.e. the golden ratio. The golden ratio or golden number is within the Fibonacci sequence and is apparent in many aspects of nature.
I will remain with my research until you convince me otherwise... but then again, Euclid is a greater mathematician than Fibonacci .....
BTW the 'golden string' is an aspect of the fibonacci sequence when binary is considered... surely this is not what Leonard was referring to in the 'Master Song' ??
Must rush.. I have my shells and petals to count.
Pete
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