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Sleep tight L. no religion or truth or anything can seem to shake your conviction. This is even not in my intention. I just do like all of you : express myself.

I have read a bit of both Lorca and Camus (unfortunately not as extensive as I would like, yet) but I can't find any obvious influences of these two artists to LC's work.

Maybe someone who knows better could write more about
on the subject?

Or perhaps it could be a good subject for a student of modern literature for a PhD thesis?

Dem
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"There isn't such a thing like parthenogenesis in Art"
G.Seferis ( 1963 Nobel in Literature)
(Who was also criticized for influences by poets like TS Eliot et al)

Tchoco wrote:I just do like all of you : express myself.

You most assuredly do, Tchoco. No one doubts it! Have yourself a good one.

Linda.

Dem,

Yes, I belive many students of modern literature or Canadian Literature have studied LC and his connection with Lorca, Camus and about a thousand others. I admire (read: I'm jealous) anyone who has studied LC to that degree (no pun intended, but it will do).

I've not read Lorca or Camus, but the only obvious connection that I'm seeing all the time is, of course, Take This Waltz or Lorca's Viennese Waltz (I think that's what the original poem (translated to English) was called), but all that info is here via links and in the skulls of others. Quite a task, I'm sure. But one well worth it in the end (I'm presuming - but I'm pretty sure it's true).

Linda.

linda_lakeside wrote:

Tchoco wrote:I just do like all of you : express myself.

You most assuredly do, Tchoco. No one doubts it! Have yourself a good one.

Linda.

No.

And get off your hands of me. It is disgusting.

Tchoco,

Is Tchoco pissed off at Linda for some reason? I don't have my hands on you. I'll just walk around you from now on, then.

Linda.

OK. Just wait that teen-aged gory jokes time pass and lets "talk" later, in a more innocent and/or mature way. 'cause I experience difficulties with the gory, as you can see.

No, actually I can't see. I don't like 'gory' myself, so am kind of puzzled as to where the 'gory' is. But fine. Later then.

Linda.

Oscar Wilde once said "Talent borrows, but genius steals".

Let be serious for a (little) (small, tiny, microscopic) while. Leonard Cohen never stole anything. He always said far before Ms. Collins, that he was influenced by Camus and Sarte (which he said having - like anybody else - read in his youth ) and other poets, like Lorca and Yeats and by (which will not be a surprise to anyone, as it is suppose to be the book that is more read in the world) the Bible,

So if Ms. Collins, just understand last in their both carriers about this, she is the one who looks ... I mean... Wake up, baby!

P.S. (yes) : Vx, if this is a quote from his character Dorian Grey I have some reserve.

Hi Tchocolatl ~

Are your comments related to Joni Mitchell or Judy Collins?

~ Elizabeth

To Joni Mitchell of course. Thanks to stress my mistake, Lz. I'm sorry. I may become an expert in gossips one day, but this day is not today.

I don't think it matters one way or the other really. Joni or Judy? They seem almost interchangeable in some way. The thread's about Joni, but who keeps to the thread? So. We have a solution should anyone ever think there was a problem. Wouldn't life be nice if all solutions were so easy?

Linda.

Not to stress your mistake, but to clarify, Tchocolatl ~ links which I've not followed up on have also been given in this thread. Judy Collins is also linked with Leonard. Making sure.

Ld, it matters, certainly, it matters a lot. (The facts, I like to stick to the facts, remimber.) Lz, dearest, It's OK. Under these circonstances, you could have even told me "wake up, Baby".