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Posted: **Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:13 pm**

Truth exists only as an opposition to untruth. They are both abstract concepts we wouldn't need if the likes of you didn't keep telling porkies.

Posted: **Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:49 pm**

Thanks for the link, Makera. That's a very cool demonstration of the concurrent multiplicities of 'Truth,' as well as how tenaciously we hold to our own. Eliminate/'kill' the other guy, if need be.

Posted: **Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:23 am**

Thanks Liz, kinda puts it in a nutshell doesn't it.

Rachel ~
It would be enlightening to know to whom you are referring with: "the likes of you"; is that plural (all inclusive), or singular and specific? To be truthful, a snipe requires explanation to prove credibility.

~ Makera

Posted: **Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:43 pm**

Byron, maybe she is talking to the Pigs of pork!!!!!
Georges

Posted: **Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:46 pm**

And here I took it as strictly a joke, a humourous way of bringing truth/untruth[lies] together in one sentence.

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:19 am**

Lizzy~
That one needed a 'glossary' too. The term "porkies": 'pork pies', is Cockney rhyming slang for 'lies'.

~Makera

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:43 pm**

"Porkies" means "lies" to me, too. Even if it didn't, I believe I'd have deduced it from its context, and the laughingly, accusatory structure of her sentence.

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:44 pm**

Sorry, Liz. I really didn't mean to imply that you didn't know what it meant, only thought the 'translation' might be helpful for anyone else not so 'bi-lingual'

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Hard to tell when someone's joking, with no emoticons, though. I made the mistake of assuming there was no malice from someone once before, remember? Thought I'd ask for clarification this time, since her post followed mine. That's all, no biggy.

Love,
Makera

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:53 pm**

That's fine, Makera

. I actually made the error of presuming everyone knew what "porkies" meant. Oh well. And, I knew that's not where you were coming from with me, just now

. I took it as you meant it, and only added on to it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:30 pm**

Makera do everyone a favour and presume people know what words mean until some one asks for clarification unless you presume we are all too stupid to either know or to ask in which case just carry on treating us like idiots.

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:33 pm**

MERRY CHRISTMAS Paula,
I wish you blessings of
happiness and peace,
And for something wonderful
to lift your spirits

--<--<--<-@

~Gennelle

Posted: **Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:43 pm**

I was thinking of treating myself to Encarta 2004 for Christmas, but upon reflection I believe that it would be a waste of my money. Can anyone suggest something similar and cheaper?

Posted: **Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:47 am**

Makera - my spirits are fine they don't need lifting.

Posted: **Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:44 am**

Mine do, upside down and from an optic
Cheers...............Georges

Posted: **Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:43 am**

Hey George, I like that

....here's 'mud in yer eye'!

Nollaig Shona Duit! (Sure hope I got that Gaelic right, & didn't say anything rude.)

Byron, what's 'Encarta'?

Cheers

~Makera