Have to know... right?

witty_owl · Post by **witty_owl** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:25 pm

G'day all,
Lizzy, Papa John Creach was a hot player with his violin on the Slick/Kantner projects. I think I recall Harris from some of Zappa's recordings.

Byron, your response brings a couple of quotes to mind.
from Don Henly- Inside Job. - "Workin' It"

Welcome welcome to the USA. We're partying fools in the autumn of our heyday. ---
Welcome to the land of flame and fizz, Where you will learn that packaging is all that heaven is.

"What the print giveth------"

From a CD by Ralph McTell - Sand in your Shoes. "Still In Dreams"

I drag a comb through knots of dreams, for when I shave I must address
This image mirrored back at me, that's weathered in time's wilderness.
Whilst yours is fixed in summer light, not creased or lined and smudged with age.
A new print from time's negative, a red dot on a linen page.

Paula, perhaps the appeal of British bands has something to do with the fact that I am from 'down under' and still have links to the motherland.

Incidently, do you know anything now or past from an obscure British singer/songwriter - Michael Chapman. Does any one know what became of him? First time I heard Mick Ronson (Bowie's Lead player) was on a Chapman record. His songs and bittersweet voice reminded me a little of Leonard Cohen but his guitar work was more complex. "Fully Qualified Survivor" and "Rainmaker" were titles of two of his albums.
Yes I have heard David Gray and I was suitably impressed.

Cheers Witty Owl.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:47 pm

Hi Witty I haven't heard of Michael Chapman. Didn't Mick Ronson die or am I confusing him with someone else. That bloke in the band was it 10CC who was a relative of the bloke who played Taggart. I bet you are glad you don't have my thought process.

Can someone please tell me what I mean and if I am confusing Mick Ronson with somebody else. I know I am confusing myself.

I hope Craig David has not inflicted himself on Austrialia Witty.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:01 pm

Paula: Mick Ronson is indeed sadly dead, he was most famous for playing guitar for David Bowie's Spiders from Mars, though he also played with Bob Dylan, on the Rolling Thunder tour and later (I think? possibly on the 'Dylan at Budokan' album?)

the bloke who was Taggart (Mark McManus)'s half brother was in Sweet, and I can't remember his name right now...

hope this helps a bit

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:08 pm

Thanks Tim. I was thinking of the bloke from Sweet who looks a bit like Mick Ronson and whose first name was Mick I think. He died an alcoholic didn't he?

Having said that I looked up Mick Ronson and was surprised to find he had died of cancer. I can't remember ever reading that he had died.

Could someone tell me what the bloke from Sweet was called because when I did a search for Sweet I kept getting sites for fudge.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:22 pm

"sweet band" were the words to search for, which I just did, Sweet being strangely absent from the Penguin Encylopedia of Popular Music, my source for the Mick Ronson information...

so, Brian Connolly it is - I can't remember whether he was a half-brother to Mark McManus, and/or whether either or both were adopted? - and I do recall at the time of his death hearing that he was an alcoholic, you're right.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:42 am

Brian Connolly of course! That sounds just like Mick Ronson doesn't it

My brain must have made a connection with the fact they looked quite similar. I am surmising here but "popular music" might be the operative phase, were Sweet ever popular

You are a mine of useless information Tim I admire that in a person it is normally useless trivia that keeps me awake at night

witty_owl · Post by **witty_owl** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:26 pm

Hi Paula, I managed to answer my own question. After posting here last I did a Google search for Michael Chapman and much to my surprise and delight I find he is still recording and touring. It seems all of his gigs are in Britain so I recommend anyone over there to track him down and check out a live show. He really is very good. Some of his early vinyls are reissued on CD and there are a few new recent CDs. I read a good review of one titled "Americana 2". One critic asserted he is more laid back than JJ Cale.

Any more laid back than that and you would fall over never to get up.

His guitar playing sounds like two very good guitar players at once. He likes playing ragtime and uses claw hammer technique frequently.

I have not heard of Craig David in Orstreeaahleea.

Cheers Witty Owl

Tchocolatl · Post by **Tchocolatl** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 11:30 pm

lizzytysh wrote:Tchocolatl ~ Yes, I get your image now [though wheelchairs are by no means the worst fate possible ]. Thanks!

Lizzy, according to a Zen theory there is no good or bad or best or worst fate but in our illusioned mind.

I like this theory.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 1:31 am

Yes, I like that theory, too, Tchocolatl. Thanks for putting it here.

~ Lizzytysh

margaret · Post by **margaret** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:31 pm

thanks Tchocolati for reviving this topic link to the anima sola question.

It seems I went to the same Mexican shop on 23rd Street near the Chelsea Hotel on June 16th this year as Leonard did, some years ago, and bought my picture.

This was a couple of hours before I had to fly home

after spending my final night of the Event actually at the Chelsea

We did spend at least half an hour in L's old room while waiting for the proprietor to agree to a deal that we could afford, to spend our one night there, but unfortunately he wanted more than we could afford!

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:53 pm

Did he want a premium rate for that room. Cheeky sod

You should have opted for the Sid Vicious room.

What is the Chelsea Hotel like now. Do they pay any sort of homage to Leonard?

margaret · Post by **margaret** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:31 pm

Stanley Bard claimed to be an old friend of Leonard and said he had promised 3 times to come to Stanley's 70th birthday celebration about June 16th, but then at the last minute changed his mind and went up the mountain again on retreat. I think L C just didn't want to be spotted in New York around that time with The Event going on.

The Chelsea is like an art gallery. Compared to most hotels it is actually rather shabby but it's certainly different, and had some eccentric looking residents going in and out with their dogs.

Stanley's offer to let us have room 424 "at cost" still came to over $265 US for one night!, to us that was a still a lot of money.

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:11 am

$265 for one night

Blimey that is overpriced. How much was it for a bog standard room with no celebrity connection?

margaret · Post by **margaret** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:56 am

absolute basic room came to over $217 with taxes but he did give us a slightly better room as we were Cohen fans!

Tchocolatl · Post by **Tchocolatl** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:27 am

Margaret, the Mexican shop is still there? This is amazing!