Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:06 pm
http://www.leonardcohenforum.com/
Alan, on page 9 of this thread, there is a photo of Leonard Cohen riding onto the stage on a horse he got somewhere because the ordinary ways of transport failed. That means, that horse and rider had known each other for something like an hour or so.AlanM wrote: ↑ [...] Leonard was a very good observer of horses and particularly their relationship with man.
I think that sums it up very nicely.its4inthemorning wrote: ↑ Any set of beliefs that makes us consider and contemplate the gift of life, whether it be from a deity or from the cosmos, is worthy of respect.
Oh Alan! Too funny! Thank you for giving me a laugh this morning. As a school employee, the end of the summer gets a little melancholic for me. Your sense of humor was a great way to start one of my last Saturdays before school resumes.AlanM post wrote:... But it is a wonderful experience. However the most amazing thing is that there are all these people around me watching Leonard just singing to me!
Ah 4, in Aussie strine words - just aveago! And also to everyone avagoodweegendits4inthemorning wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:02 pm A few weeks ago I thought about posting an occasional cartoon drawing for levity, with the theme being Dave enduring Vickie's discovery of Leonard Cohen
Here I have a problem with "switch off". You are obviously not asking whether I kill my horses, but I don't know what you do mean.vlcoats wrote: ↑ I have one other question about you horses… if you always take both of your horses on your ride, do you always ride one and lead the other, or do you switch off?
Vickie, of the two rules (not to damage the body — not to damage the mind), let me underline the second one: Don't make your brain hurt more than reasonably unreasonable.vlcoats wrote: ↑ As for the Zen thing [...]
Right.vlcoats wrote: ↑ I feel that accepting that we are graced by being here is enough. I had to look up what being sentient or non-sentient means. Of course we all are related. Who cares how or why? It is as simple as the web of life, right?
Yes, apparently there is.Jean Fournell wrote:Well, there's a lot going on here.
Hi Jean,Ballad of the Absent Mare is not about a man-woman relationship, but about the realisation of one's own real self, a kind of Eastern "Pilgrim's Progress", and it covers eight of the ten pictures-poems in the wikipedia article.
B4real wrote:In the late 60’s LC bought a somewhat uncontrollable ornery horse from a neighbour, Kid Marley who was a rodeo champion. I suspect this horse could have a presence in BOTAM as well. When LC wrote Chelsea Hotel #1 in one of the versions of it he mentions both Kid Marley and also another neighbour Willie York who is mentioned alone in other versions of CH#1.
“I remember you well in the Chelsea Hotel
Then I went to Tennessee
Sittin’ by the creek with Willie York
And Kid Marley came to visit me”
And yes Alan, that slip-sliding, tail swingin’ saga is still a very vivid memory!Postby B4real » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:08 am
MaryB wrote:does anyone know the song that LC wrote about Kid Marley?
Hi Mary,
This answer is well over a year late and you may know it by now but I've just noticed this thread because it has been resurrected.
Kid Marley is mentioned in a line from Chelsea Hotel #1 -
"I remember you well in the Chelsea Hotel
Then I went to Tennessee
Sittin’ by the creek with Willie York
And Kid Marley came to visit me"
Full song lyrics here although there is at least another version:
http://www.leonardcohen-prologues.com/l ... elsea1.htm
....Kid Marley sold Leonard a horse which he had difficulty in catching to ride it!
Excerpt from Various Positions:
"Cohen decided he needed a horse and bought one from Kid Marley, a sometimes cowboy and a full time drinker. A legend in the area, Marley could sing and play the harmonica and did so often with Cohen. The horse was lame and consistently uncoperative, spending most of its time in the pasture avoiding the Montreal cowboy, although Cohen did eventually learn to ride him."
......and just in case you're interested in who Willie York was, here's the following paragraph in VP:
"One of Cohen's neighbours was Willie York, a notorious figure who had an illegal still and who once had shot a revenue officer. He became the subject of a hit song called "Wille York, Big East Forth, Franklin, Tennessee" by country singer Johnny Paycheck. York looked after Cohen's cabin and land while he lived there, but he also made off with a variety of goods including Cohen's rifle. An erratic neighbour he would pound on Cohen's door in the middle of a raging storm, demanding twenty dollars and Cohen would give it to him. Yet his individualism appealed to Cohen and he enjoyed his company."
Over here the equivalent is: "Interdit de ramasser des vipères" (No collecting vipers).AlanM wrote: It said "Please do not feed the bears"
For a horse that is used to "signal" riding, being put under "control" riding is incomprehensible: it is told to stand, and it stands, so that should be that.AlanM wrote: I was holding the reins too tight for this poor creature and it was fidgeting quite an amount while I thought I was applying the brakes.
I stopped counting a long, long time agoAlanM wrote: I only ever fell off once
Wow — if a song becomes bad through understanding it, then it was bad in the first place.AlanM wrote: I still love this song, in spite of understanding it much better, so that's good.
Good omen! A sign that maybe I was sufficiently "Unconvincing" (Not A Jew).B4real wrote: Jean, all that enlightenment has left me in the dark
I know I've said this before, I am generally not into anyone covering LC songs and I also am not usually enamored with female solo artists but to me Jennifer is an exception! She has a beautiful voice and her album FBR put LC back on the map, so to speak! Having said that, this link is to a song I absolutely love also associated with the "great western sky" called Prairie Melancholy from her album The Well.