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Yes, I have the ability to figure out a figure of speech. Not sure how "points" would get packaged and sent parcel post, anyway. Surely, it would have to be a figure of speech. One that even I could understand.

"Pulling up the rear," though admirable, is not exaaaactly what is going on here. Nice try with that figure of speech, though.

Since "We've . . . communicated" suggests a two-way interaction, you're right. However, it does not address one-way-only e-mails, Linda.

I haven't sent you PM since that comp. and never will.

Linda.

Wait a minute, I remember wrapping my loving arms around you when you were going thru your time of trouble. The posts you left on the board thanking me for my comfort and John K. for the right way to spell your name (or was it John Etherington, sorry, both Johns).

I haven't sent you PM since that comp. and never will.

Well, now there's an indication of sincere desire .

However, back to the topic, I'm not speaking of PMs, but e-mails ~ or are you going to claim that someone has taken up pretending to be you ?

[Since you got in another post before this one got submitted, I had to Edit to show what my first comment referred to. Hate those edited lines .]

Well, imagine that, I of all people would thank you! Your "loving arms" ~ such a way to represent yourself ~ to the world, at least.

Nope. I've never sent you an email that could be construed as 'threatening or intimidating' or any synonym of those words. Not even unkind.

My sincere desire to communicate with you exists. However, I'm sure you're not receptive. I've been on the receiving end of your snide remarks enough times to know that.

Ms. Stalker ~

Since:

I presumed your behind-the-scenes attempts to be 'tests' and did not respond by bringing them here, or by even bothering to respond to you.

You have tried to feign absolute innocence and only the highest of motives and goals.

To be only the utmost in sincerity in trying to, I guess we would say, get along/repair damaged bridges.

You have required 'forcing the issue' to even own up to having communicated with me behind the scenes, albeit not a completed [answered] communication.

Now a behind-the-scenes communication must meet some arbitrary measure of being "threatening or intimidating." The word I used was "abusive."

You continue to proclaim that you have been damaged by my supposed cruel ways.

You have just publicly proclaimed "I haven't sent you PM since that comp. and never will."

You continue to insist that "My sincere desire to communicate with you exists."

Since all of that, and more I'm not even bothering with, is in place, I can only ask why you would choose a private e-mail for these messages, rather than these messages being posted here, where they might interfere with your "Lovely" personae, or why a private e-mail wouldn't have arrived bearing a different type of message. One which might be construed as a sincere desire. After all, time was taken up to seek my private, though publicly posted, e-mail address. Time was taken to write your message and send it. What was your, well-intentioned intent of these messages from you, Linda? These messages, which you have all but categorically denied existing, were it not for my continued, differing ways of approaching their existence, to confront you on them?


Since, by your own admission:

As we've not communicated behind closed doors since the comp., when you so graciously helped in my copy and paste handicap, I can't see that any pact of privacy would be, or could be, of relevance.

Since, you recalled an instance where you could again pat yourself on the back:

Wait a minute, I remember wrapping my loving arms around you when you were going thru your time of trouble. The posts you left on the board thanking me for my comfort and John K. for the right way to spell your name (or was it John Etherington, sorry, both Johns).

I am certain you have no objections ["I can't see that any pact of privacy would be, or could be, of relevance"] to my now bringing them here for your perusal. Perhaps, constructive communication can follow, here in public, since you obviously have no desire to do so privately:

From: "Lovely Lakelover"
To: lizzytysh2088@yahoo.com
Subject: Do you
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:31:02 -0500


ever shut up?

From: "Lovely Lakelover"
To: lizzytysh2088@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:50:56 -0500


Stop while you can, Lizzytysh! I can imagine that even your most ardent supporters are dropping like flies at this point! LLL

Albeit they were not successful, both of these unsolicited and unanswered e-mails come squarely under the label, "attempts to intimidate."

Now, "big girl," before you go running, calling foul, revisit your own words [in the paragraph just preceding the first quote], and your own suggestions for ways of being, and your own claims regarding yourself. I've deleted your private, e-mail address, you'll notice.

All I ask is that you insert "e-mail" into what you "never will"-again claim. That is unless you have a sincere desire to communicate. Despite what could appear as your fraudulent representation of self, here, I actually do remain open to SINCERE desire. So far, I've yet to see it.......privately or here.

~ Ms. Attackee

This really does belong over here in this thread:

Lizzy, my attempts at communication with you only went so far as the 'comfort' I could lend during your time of crisis. I was sincere in that. Since that time (remember, I was quite new then), I've seen soooo much more from you. Really, Lizzy as an 'Attackee', don't make me laugh.

How individual ideas of 'comfort' and 'sincere' and 'honest' do vary .

As I said in response, on the thread where this Quote originated, your laughter echoes.

~ Ms. Attackee

Oh, I see you have the copy and paste routine down pretty good. Never in my life have I referred to myself as "Lovely Lakelover", let alone put it on paper! Good Gawd, Lizzy, I would have thought you could do better than that.

I've never had your email address. Lovely Lakelover - BS, and you know it.

linda_lakeside
Always have been
Always will be

Sorry, I should have said "you have the pretend copy and paste routine down pretty good.

Also, I've never referred to you as 'Lizzytysh', that is something you know, as well.

From: "Lovely Lakelover" <lovelylakelover@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: lizzytysh2088@yahoo.com
Subject: Do you
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:31:02 -0500


ever shut up?

From: "Lovely Lakelover" <lovelylakelover@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: lizzytysh2088@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:50:56 -0500


Stop while you can, Lizzytysh! I can imagine that even your most ardent supporters are dropping like flies at this point! LLL

So, I'm guessing what you're saying now [even though you did not seize the opportunity a couple posts back to deny that you've ever e-mailed me] is that someone has co-opted your identity to try to stir schitt, eh? Wonder why anyone would do that, Linda. Well, if that be the case, will the real Linda Lakelover please stand up? Seeing the extent you've already gone to, I should really disbelieve that you would do such a thing . That you conceivably might even create a temporary e-mail address for doing such a thing? My e-mail address, as I've already indicated, is publicly available [through the Beautiful Losers Gallery]. Never referred to me as "Lizzytysh"? Well, there ya go ~ if that be true [I really don't know], that certainly would get you out from under such a maneuver . In such an e-mail [particularly with "Lizzytysh" being in my e-mail address], you definitely would have preferred and used "Lizzy," the friendlier form of address .

You're right that had I made it up, I would have done better than that. I'd, at least, have omitted the "Lovely" ~ the evidence of that has been rather sparse of late, though at one time, I confess, I considered you so. However, as you profess about me, I've since seen evidence to the contrary.

I've had the copy-and-paste routine down for several years now, Linda. It's not rocket science. "Pretend copy-and-paste"? You're going to some pretty incredible lengths here, LLL. Is your overriding, personal motto, "Admit to nothing"? Your "paper" comment doesn't apply. This is cyberspace.

Lizzy, please stop embarrassing yourself with these truly ridiculous accusations. "Linda Lakelover"?? You have no idea what you're talking about.

Please cease and desist from posting messages and implying that they were mine, as they certainly were not. Linda Lakelover?

linda_lakeside
Without Prejudice (of course)

Go ahead and back up and read my additions [added in the midst of your own response].

I'm not embarrassing myself, at all, Ms. Admit Nothing, Deny Everything. Frankly, honestly ~ I don't believe you. The veracity of what you say on this goes hand-in-hand with your proclamations [vs. evidence] of wishing for productive communications between us.

Sorry you've gone to such extremes. You've taken such a high stand of innocence and victimization, I guess it's to be expected. Takes a lot to defend such an indefensible.

Oh, I'm such an over-bearing, dominating tyrant, aren't I? Jeez, this past year, I've just been on a rampage of terror. Fear and Loathing in the LC Forum! Get a life, Lizzy. Get a life.

Linda ~

I won't comment on how you've been spending your time here. On that same continuum, I can't relate to those hyperbolic terms regarding myself, either. Of course, I didn't accuse you of them, either.

By the way, I have a life. Your again, well-intended advice is superfluous.

[You're needed at the locker .]

~ Lizzy