The Beautiful Loosers

Debate on Leonard Cohen's poetry (and novels), both published and unpublished. Song lyrics may also be discussed here.
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I hope there will be something to buy in Berlin also... :D
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Tom?

Is the book, Dance Me to the End of Love a good buy. I mean, is it a big book with a lot of text? Is there a lot of artwork, is it all good art? Glossy pages? Reasonably priced, etc.

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It is worth.
Big format, glossy pages with excellent Matisse's drawings... But not many text, on each page is one or two lines from Dance Me To The End Of Love. So there's about 25 pages.
I think the real price, when it was widely available, was about 25 US $ - it was little above than usual prices. Masha bought it to me when she was in Washington two years ago, in Barnes & Noble. I see now it's out of print on Amazon, and used one is 50 dollars!!!

"Good art"? We're speaking about Henri Matisse here!
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Here's the size: "Product Dimensions: 11.7 x 9.8 x 0.4 inches"

Anyway, on Amazon.com you can see the book from inside - you know about Amazon's recent development, listing the actual scanned pages of the book?

There's no many inside pages unfortunately.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0941807 ... eader-page
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Beautiful book, Tom! I wish I'd been smart enough to buy it, when I actually saw it a while back. I have to learn to be forever on the lookout.

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Tom? Henri Matisse died in 1954 - I wonder how this little book came into being?

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They used his best paintings. I saw them all before, in various monographs, but they work perfectly with Dance Me... believe or not, it seems like Matisse was capturing Leonard's lines, there is violin, naked woman, women dancing in a circle, all in his unique blue tones... (I think that copyright for the book was granted by Matisse's Foundation and the paintings were printed by MOMA or something like that).
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i now had the time to look at some of the paintings and was very impressed by the ones of allan brack. his pictures are abstract, but only that far that the connection to reality is not lost. that's exactly the place where dreams take place. he is able to capture the deeper meaning of cohen's words. and the colours and motifs are beautiful. i'm sure one could sit in front of such a picture for long time and reflect.
they remind me of a picture by arnold böcklin, i think, which is not nicer to look at (and which i'd never put up somewhere), but which transmits its atmosphere as good: it was ordered as a painting which makes "silence visible" and is called "isle of the dead". that's a very melancholic subject and would also go good with lc's words and music.
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I wonder what is happening with the project of Dylan. Maybe it was lost in the psychedelic labyrinth. :roll:
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Oh! You're right!

Dylan! How's the book coming? Sorry about all the, uh, chit-chat.

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Oh! but the chit-chat was OK!, the chit-chat was wonderful. I was just wondering what is happening with Dylan's project. How about theses notes. BL is such not a "quiet" book. 8)
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Yes, you're right Tchoco. This thread did morph into something good. Lots of good things in here. I hope Dylan didnt feel as though we 'overthrew' her. A 'Cohenite coup' of sorts.

BL is not a 'quiet' book. No doubt. It only becomes quiet when one gives up, and tucks it away in the drawer for 'some other time'. Maybe, now that things have settled down a bit, we'll learn how Dylan is making out. I'd like to hear that she finished it and has a few questions for some of the more learned members of the board.

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"She"? Dylan (which is his real name that he uses on every forum he goes) is a male, as far as I remimber to have read him written such an information somewhere on the board - thought he was a black woman all the time before I read this - who is a cook for elder citizens in a retirement home and who likes to listen blues in his cottage. I guess the last is still accurate info. Did he wrote that he has a particular cult for Nina Simone too? And that is the raison for him to have choose this avatar? As far I read about his posts I don't feel he could be resentful at all about the chit-chat (oh! G_d! now it is notes about Dylan and not BL). :lol:
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Ah. OK. I had heard that before but not from Dylan's own fingertips. So, I just had to go with what I had 'officially' been given. In any event, I hope Dylan does keep us up to speed on BL.

I had many conversations with Dylan and not once was the subject of his gender brought up. So, until such time as Dylan brings us up to date on the BL thing, I guess we have commandeered this thread for our own diabolical use!!

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:roll:

If you say so Linda.

"It's worth noting how comedy has evolved in such a short time. Now, in these days of 'political correctedness", Ralph would most assuredly be strung up for lines like "One of these days Alice, POW, straight to the moon". We're not supposed to laugh at lines like that anymore, although it was very funny. We knew Ralph loved Alice and they always made up."Baby, you're the greatest".

Thanks for bringing back some good memories.

Linda."

If you say so Linda.

One of these days Linda, POW, straight to the moon. However I like you very much. 8)
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