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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:58 pm
by Critic2
lizzytysh wrote:Yes, Linda, you're right that it's on the previous page. However, it's on the same thread as C2's :lol: tribute. Isobel's suggestion was that Nan create her own thread for posting it. Hence, it'll be the very first thing on the thread, and won't be lost within it :D .

I agree that this is something you should do, Nan. Meanwhile, C2, I can't believe you would actually miss a deadline! Wonderful lament, nonetheless 8) .

~ Lizzy

getting old and I want to go home (Nick Drake, Black Eyed Dog)

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:35 pm
by lizzytysh
Good cover on the briberoso, tribute thread to le judge, though, C2 ~ you're a clever one :lol: . Standing right longside that Lakey Linda :lol: .

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:51 pm
by linda_lakeside
Who is hiding behind that laughing Lizzy.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:09 pm
by lizzytysh
That briberoso C2 ~ the one who wrote the tribute thingy to the judge. Did tom.d.stiller do one, too? Whom of these participants are to be trusted :roll: ?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:57 pm
by Nan
linda_lakeside wrote:You're right Lady Liz, Nan should post in her own thread in the Poetry Place. This isn't the poetry place, is it? I get lost when I follow topic notificatons.

Anyway, NAN, BY ALL MEANS POST YOUR POEM. POST IT IN EVERY THREAD YOU FEEL LIKE. JUST DO IT. SEND US A MEMO IF YOU LIKE. WE ALL WANT TO READ YOUR POEM AGAIN.

Best Wishes,
~ Linda

Linda, I Don't Understand this post you have written.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:38 pm
by tink
It sounded very rude, if you ask me. :shock:

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:26 am
by John K.
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:16 am
by linda_lakeside
I have, since posting the above, been in touch with Nan and hopefully the misunderstanding has been taken care of.

Thanks John K.: Thanks for your remark. I thought Nan's poem was, indeed, good.

tink: it's kind of informal around here. We all have different personalities, points of view, senses of humour and styles of writing. Also, we have a lot of fun. We (I can only speak for myself so I'll say I, instead) I have a lot of fun. However, never at the expense of others. To a newcomer, it might look rude, however, if you stick around you'll see a lot of things that might look rude at first but it's just a few people who know each other, goofing around.

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:06 am
by John K.
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:07 am
by linda_lakeside
John K.: Thanks for your understanding of the situation. I really wish Nan had come to me first and asked about my posts. In my mind, it's better to find out the facts first rather than jumping to conclusions that are upsetting for everyone.

I think many of the people who've read my post know that I wasn't being critical. That helps.

You know how I see this site? It's kind of like a hotel. There are corridors with doors running down the hall. Some of the rooms are suites, they have more than one room. So, if I want to talk to someone in the next room, I have to TALK LOUDER SO THEY WILL HEAR ME. This is how I express myself. Not always, but sometimes. I don't apologize for the way I write things down but I do feel bad if Nan took it the wrong way.

You are right in that emails et al. are hard to read, sometimes, if you don't know the person. In a business letter a person will take time to make sure every word is correct and the points are properly made. But I find in this kind of spontaneous situation, it's more fun to try on different styles of writing, look at poetry from a different perspective, learn to love poetry and music and share that love with others. We are all individual, we communicate differently and it often doesn't come across properly on the page because we're running around the hotel so much. Trying to look into all the rooms. That and some of us have different senses of humour. We have good days, bad days. What it all boils down to, I guess, is that we are human and wanting to share that with other humans who share our interests. Like any other relationship, it takes time to get to know someone.

Anyway, that's about it from this end. Have a good one. Hope to run into you in another thread.

Thanks and regards,

Linda.

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:10 am
by linda_lakeside
tink:

While Anne A.L./Nouria was looking to start using Anne A.L. as her name, you remarked that you thought Anne A.L. reminded you of "Anal". That is a quote from your 'other' post. That sounded very rude, if you ask me.

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:45 am
by tink
it's kind of informal around here. We all have different personalities, points of view, senses of humour and styles of writing. Also, we have a lot of fun. We (I can only speak for myself so I'll say I, instead) I have a lot of fun. However, never at the expense of others. To a newcomer, it might look rude, however, if you stick around you'll see a lot of things that might look rude at first but it's just a few people who know each other, goofing around.
Had Nan been in on the fun you would not have had to contact her privatlely to explain just how much fun you were having.

Re:[Anal] Anne, has not written a post asking me to explain mine! My post was an observation that she was maybe unaware of.
To a newcomer, it might look rude, however, if you stick around you'll see a lot of things that might look rude at first but it's just a few people who know each other, goofing around.
Then it may be best if you keep your silly comments to those few people that know you.

There are more than just a "few people" here who are getting a little tired of you Linda Lakeside.

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:48 pm
by Byron
Nan wrote:
linda_lakeside wrote:You're right Lady Liz, Nan should post in her own thread in the Poetry Place. This isn't the poetry place, is it? I get lost when I follow topic notificatons.

Anyway, NAN, BY ALL MEANS POST YOUR POEM. POST IT IN EVERY THREAD YOU FEEL LIKE. JUST DO IT. SEND US A MEMO IF YOU LIKE. WE ALL WANT TO READ YOUR POEM AGAIN.

Best Wishes,
~ Linda

Linda, I Don't Understand this post you have written.

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Nan, Linda has given you high praise for your poem. It deserves/demands to be in the poetry section in its own titled thread.
I have quoted this previous posting and added it to the thread here, because it seems that there is a total breakdown and/or misunderstanding of Linda's admiration for your poem.
It is a good poem. Linda wanted you to place it in its rightful place.

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:50 pm
by Critic2
welcome to the forum, tink. I feel, intuitively, that yours will be a positive and meaningful contribution.

It's lovely that you did not feel inhibited in your opinion of Linda and went straight ahead to offer a character analysis based on your long time with us. Well Done!

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:57 pm
by lizzytysh
Ok. Tried to stay out of it, but now feel compelled.

This is how I 'read' the progression.

When I read your posting, Linda, it also struck me as being an over-the-top response, perhaps [inclusively], to my own correction on what seemed your misinterpretation of what Isobel had meant. Like, "OK, OK, guys! [to us]" and, then, to Nan ~ "DO IT! Just DO IT! Do it as many times as you want, in as many places as you want! OBVIOUSLY, we ALL want to reread it!" etc. With that, I felt that Nan [the innocent bystander] was sabred down in the process, and I didn't see it as a commentary on the quality of the poem, itself, but rather on things apart from that. I also felt, "Dang! That seems unfair to Nan!" At best, it seemed to make her the brunt of your joke.

However! And, this is a biggie. I know you from behind the scenes, and know that you're not intentionally hurtful to people, so I let my own commenting go, and left it up to Nan to deal with it [my day off on trying to 'rescue' others]. It remains that you, initially, commented on its being good, and that can't be ignored, either.

However, again, when Nan questioned it, I felt her questioning publicly was absolutely valid. She didn't violate "better to find out the facts first rather than jumping to conclusions that are upsetting for everyone." Her questioning had no conclusions ~ it was,
"Linda, I Don't Understand this post you have written.

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and ~ in this ~ she wasn't alone. I didn't understand it, either.

At this point, to suggest that she should have made private contact for questioning/not "jumping to conclusions," is unfair to her, again. It, somehow, places the responsibility and blame right back on her, i.e. "If you'd handled it better, it wouldn't have come to this." That perspective sidesteps, or jumps over, the initial thing that she was responding to, and its initial impact. For me, that causes me to feel uncomfortable, again.

When the initial comment was made publicly, there is no less reason for the inquiry to have been made publicly. As the National Enquirer says, "People want to know" [or something like that :roll: ].

If suggestions are to be made for follow-up privately, then it seems no less a good idea for the initial support of posting it separately, on its own thread, for others to read again ~ or to be more certain to read in the first place ~ could/should have also been done privately, as well! However, the joke seems to have been what it was about. It was a joke I didn't get, either. Though, even at the time, I tried to consider it from that perspective, I still ended up with "???????????????????????????" in my own mind.

Nan has posted very little here, and it's been a long time since she has, so tink is correct that she wasn't "in on the fun." With
". . . it's just a few people who know each other, goofing around"
~ it seems to me that this is the crack that Nan falls ~ or fell ~ through. She hadn't been engaging, at all, whatsoever ~ much less been in the status of "know each other" or "goofing around." However, I'd like to see you engaging, Nan. We've had a couple, private exchanges a long time ago.

OK, that's how I feel on all of that. Now, I want to say that I'm not getting tired of you, at all, Linda. I like your quick wit and the creativeness of the perspectives, that zip in so quickly from left field, in your responses. I find the exchanges that go on between you, Byron, and C2 very entertaining. I find some needed reprieve in reading them. However, Nan wasn't a part of that dynamic. That's why all of this has resulted in my feeling :cry: .

Sincerely,
Elizabeth