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Re: Hallelujah to be UK Xmas No. 1 – Good thing or bad thing?

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Paula wrote:Hi Actiaon - I think, and someone will correct me if I am wrong, the only royalties he gets are from Ten New Songs onwards.

The sole reason for him going back on tour was to replenish his pension fund. His ex manager managed to sell, behind his back, all the copyrights to songs prior to that and that would include Hallelujah.

I don't know about the technicalities but someone said he had retained the performing rights.
God that makes my blood boil! It's so unjust!Do whoever has bought the rights have royalties from the songs or have they been suspended until it is settled in court?
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This was a previous thread on the subject Kwills.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11764&start=0&st=0& ... lley+lynch
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Re: Hallelujah X-Factor Leonard Cohen night

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Can anyone confirm that leonard will be present at the final - it's leonard cohen night

Best suggestions would be

JLS - will sing Dont Go Home with Your Hard on /
Alexandra will sing Seems So Long Ago Nancy / Please Dont pass Me by
Eoghan will sing Queen Victoria / The Butcher
i would like to buy any artwork by lc
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Re: Hallelujah to be UK Xmas No. 1 – Good thing or bad thing?

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Daily Mail article today

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... cenes.html

The finalists have all recorded a cover of Leonard Cohen's classic Hallelujah, which the winner will release in time for Christmas.
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Re: Hallelujah to be winner's song on UK X-Factor

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good luck, eggnog!!

i'll be voting for him.

if he wins he could record hallelujah in the irish (gaeilge) language!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... -show.html
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Paula wrote:Daily Mail article today
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The finalists have all recorded a cover of Leonard Cohen's classic Hallelujah, which the winner will release in time for Christmas.
Something to look forward to, eh...not :shock:
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Re: Hallelujah to be UK Xmas No. 1 – Good thing or bad thing?

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Paula wrote:
Good idea John. Especially if they included Silent Night.
Jarkko it is that time of year again.
That's true, Paula! Here we go:
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Re: Hallelujah to be UK Xmas No. 1 – Good thing or bad thing?

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I vote - good thing.

I'm in my early 30s and got into Leonard Cohen via REM's cover version of "First we take manhatten" which they put on the B-side of their single, Drive. I then bought the "Closing Time" single, which also had 'first we take manhatten' as a B-side, along with 'Famous blue raincoat'. I loved FBR and bought Leonard Cohen's Greastest Hit's album which my dad (in his 50s) got really into. Now we've both got all his stuff and went along to see him in Cardiff in November.

So, even if the song is a terrible travesty, if it sells well it'll raise Mr.Cohen's profile and is likely to draw in a few new listeners to his work.

For the record, I can't stand the Buckley version of the song (my favourite is John Cale's version).
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Hi Palefire,

I commend you on your good taste for agreeing that John Cale's cover version is the best. The greatest danger of the X-Factor version is that the damn thing will no doubt be inflicted on us in supermarkets, bars and all sorts of other places.

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... and now you can vote on whether you think it's a good idea.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/poll/20 ... -christmas

Me, I think they should scrap the Christmas Hallelujah cover for and do "Dress Rehearsal Rag" for a laugh. It has references to Santa Claus in it, after all...
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Thanks for adding the Silent Night MP3 Jarkko. We seem to get to Christmas quicker and quicker each year.
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Re: Hallelujah X-Factor Leonard Cohen night

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Simon Moorehead said "Alexandra will sing Seems So Long Ago Nancy / Please Dont pass Me by"

Would "Alexandra Leaving" not be a better choice?
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Where is Leonard now ? Has there been any sightings in or around the ITV studios this week . It does say that there will be " surprise guests "
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liptrot wrote:Where is Leonard now ? Has there been any sightings in or around the ITV studios this week . It does say that there will be " surprise guests "
Surely Leonard has got better things to do than go and watch his song be butchered :shock: It would be fascinating to see what advice he'd give though.

My song recommendation for all of them:

'If it be your will
That I speak no more
And my voice be still
As it was before'


And then suit the action to the word
I'm chained to the old masquerade...
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Re: Hallelujah to be winner's song on UK X-Factor

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I agree he has better things to do but in the unlikely event of him " getting lost in that hopeless little screen " I am sure he would be as always gracious and diplomatic in his comments .
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