Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 5:30 am
On this I do agree, Paula H.
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:35 pm
oh come off it Paula, if you can laugh in the face of violence then you are making the world a better place. If you just moan and whinge about violence then you are making the world an unhappier place. so I know where my preference lies.
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:51 am
I dont want to laugh in the face of violence, I want NO violence. If you disagree with that simple statement then I will smash you into tiny pieces, you foolish fool
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:53 pm
Where have you been Paula H!?! I see you passed your Anger-Management 101 course with flying colours! I remember you saying that they were teaching you how to recognize a fool, and you were beside yourself memorizing all those characteristics!
Well, anyway, welcome back! Did they give you the focus for AM 102?
~ Lizzytysh
Well, anyway, welcome back! Did they give you the focus for AM 102?
~ Lizzytysh
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:44 pm
thank you for your interest Lizzytish, although something in your tone suggest a less than sincere sincerity.
I have been hard at work writing several new sentences.
I have no reason to attend Anger Management classes. as long as the World contains persons like you who would oftentime consume muffin rather than pursue a Just War then I have not just the right, but indeed the *duty* to exhibit righteous anger in public.
I have been hard at work writing several new sentences.
I have no reason to attend Anger Management classes. as long as the World contains persons like you who would oftentime consume muffin rather than pursue a Just War then I have not just the right, but indeed the *duty* to exhibit righteous anger in public.
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:18 pm
Hey! I'll consume any amount of muffins you put in front of me, in lieu of a war! I loooove bran muffins and real butter, in case you're taking note of preferences. Be that as it may, your sentences came through with the appropriate amount of humour and lightness ~ given the topic.
Less than sincere? Paula H.! It's been ages.......of course I'm sincere! I only wish you would spell my name correctly, so I don't have to go back and Edit my message to Pete!
Less than sincere? Paula H.! It's been ages.......of course I'm sincere! I only wish you would spell my name correctly, so I don't have to go back and Edit my message to Pete!
Just a Just War on Carbs
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:16 am
Hey Paula H~
Yeah! What would be good for people to realize is that muffins (consumed daily or regularly) will kill you; because of the flour, sugar (i.e.refined carbohydrates) and mostly hydrogenated oils (i.e.deadly trans fats).
To any who don't believe, or haven't
heard, the truth of the Atkin's Diet Revolution, [the low carb/high fat and protein lifestyle] I say "Go tell it to the Eskimos!" See, according to some of those so-called experts (who never read the data or even tried it) all the Eskimos' ancestors should have died millenia ago from heart disease. They have those problems now.... from flour and sugar! 
Plenty of great carb-free sweeteners available now, the best is 'Splenda'.
So if you kill yourself slowly, with self indulgence, what is the benefit -- and to whom?
~Makera
PS Has anyone ever heard of 'fat diabetes'? No...hmmm.
Yeah! What would be good for people to realize is that muffins (consumed daily or regularly) will kill you; because of the flour, sugar (i.e.refined carbohydrates) and mostly hydrogenated oils (i.e.deadly trans fats).
To any who don't believe, or haven't
heard, the truth of the Atkin's Diet Revolution, [the low carb/high fat and protein lifestyle] I say "Go tell it to the Eskimos!" See, according to some of those so-called experts (who never read the data or even tried it) all the Eskimos' ancestors should have died millenia ago from heart disease. They have those problems now.... from flour and sugar! Plenty of great carb-free sweeteners available now, the best is 'Splenda'.
So if you kill yourself slowly, with self indulgence, what is the benefit -- and to whom?
~Makera
PS Has anyone ever heard of 'fat diabetes'? No...hmmm.
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:58 pm
Last Wednesday my physiotherapist was extolling the virtues of Dr Atkins' Diet. His assistant is also starting on it and they both said that it was a very successful method of staying healthy. In fact, 1 in 4 of the doctors at the hospital are already on the diet. Something to do with not building up carbohydrates in the body's fat, which means that any exercise we do, does not spend the first 75% of the time burning up yesterday's dinner, but actually burning up reserves of what is left of our body fat. Drink lots of water to avoid kidney damage; and have a regular exercise 'work-out.' I know I (and you "Dear Reader" ) will now be put right on the positive merits of the diet by those who have done it. It does seem to make a lot of sense. We started out by being hunter gatherers, and meat, fruit, nuts, seeds etc were the staple diet upon which 'man' developed, not processed flour which came much later, with agrarian societies.
I await further enlightenment. Please.
Byron 'sends his regards.'
I await further enlightenment. Please.
Byron 'sends his regards.'
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:27 pm
I'll take self-indulgent suicide [alcohol/drugs/actual weapons/muffins], over homicide [group or singular], any day. The victim count [even peripherally] is considerably less, and at least there's a choice element for the one who dies. Neither, however, is recommended by me!
In the meantime, with my primarily-vegetarian diet, and lots of fruits and vegetables
, I will also most happily continue to indulge in a muffin with real butter [if you can't have something fun and "dangerous" ~ and the butter's actually preferable in many ways than the margarines, etc., anyway ~ not to mention delicious occasionally, why be alive 
? The bran is, of course, brings the duality of "bad, bad, girl! 
" of the muffin, with the "Well, we are looking at fiber and some great nutritional aspects of bran here!"]. In fact, natural- and/or organic-style cooking can work to avoid all of the cited "offenders."
So, I will continue to indulge from time-to-time, at my pleasure. And given a choice of these muffins or war, I'll gladly take the muffins, as many as you can put in front of me! [I can always eat grapes the next day, one of nature's delightful and expedient cleansers, for when you've really "blown it" the day prior
!] All of our dietary choices aren't necessarily based on ignorance .
As to dietary discussion, much is known regarding sugar, carbohydrates, hydrogenated oils, et al. However, I would throw into the mix [in terms of the "best" sugar substitute], Stevia [not just the name of the product, but of the plant itself]. It is actually from the plant/herb[?], harvested out of the wilds of the South American Amazon, the natives singing to the plants as they do so. It not only has no calories, but is something like 10 times sweeter than sugar cane, and has nutritional value as well ~ the body being happy to see it, as opposed to still another chemical, that may or may not later be discovered to have detrimental, if not devastating, side effects.
The jury's still out with me on the Atkins' Diet. Sometimes what the "doctors" [the term generally indicating allopathic doctors] are doing tells me to instinctively run the other way. A book of interest regarding the standard, medical community and dietary/vitamin/mineral supplements, is Dead Doctors Don't Lie. However, another one to consider is Eat Right for Your Type ~ which deals with blood type, and takes into direct account the changes in the type of societies which we have been ~ agrarian, et al. If you read it right from page one, the Forward and all those other sections that people sometimes tend to skip over ~ you'll find it quite amazing and credible.
~ Elizabeth
In the meantime, with my primarily-vegetarian diet, and lots of fruits and vegetables
, I will also most happily continue to indulge in a muffin with real butter [if you can't have something fun and "dangerous" ~ and the butter's actually preferable in many ways than the margarines, etc., anyway ~ not to mention delicious occasionally, why be alive ? The bran is, of course, brings the duality of "bad, bad, girl! " of the muffin, with the "Well, we are looking at fiber and some great nutritional aspects of bran here!"]. In fact, natural- and/or organic-style cooking can work to avoid all of the cited "offenders." So, I will continue to indulge from time-to-time, at my pleasure. And given a choice of these muffins or war, I'll gladly take the muffins, as many as you can put in front of me! [I can always eat grapes the next day, one of nature's delightful and expedient cleansers, for when you've really "blown it" the day prior
!] All of our dietary choices aren't necessarily based on ignorance . As to dietary discussion, much is known regarding sugar, carbohydrates, hydrogenated oils, et al. However, I would throw into the mix [in terms of the "best" sugar substitute], Stevia [not just the name of the product, but of the plant itself]. It is actually from the plant/herb[?], harvested out of the wilds of the South American Amazon, the natives singing to the plants as they do so. It not only has no calories, but is something like 10 times sweeter than sugar cane, and has nutritional value as well ~ the body being happy
to see it, as opposed to still another chemical, that may or may not later be discovered to have detrimental, if not devastating, side effects.The jury's still out with me on the Atkins' Diet. Sometimes what the "doctors" [the term generally indicating allopathic doctors] are doing tells me to instinctively run the other way. A book of interest regarding the standard, medical community and dietary/vitamin/mineral supplements, is Dead Doctors Don't Lie. However, another one to consider is Eat Right for Your Type ~ which deals with blood type, and takes into direct account the changes in the type of societies which we have been ~ agrarian, et al. If you read it right from page one, the Forward and all those other sections that people sometimes tend to skip over ~ you'll find it quite amazing and credible.
~ Elizabeth
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:57 pm
Aspartame ~ Since we're on the topic of sweeteners, and since I Serendipitously received this today from someone I have not heard from in months [at least 6], I'll share it with/for anyone who's open to this kind of information. I was already aware [long ago] of the accumulating evidence of side effects ~ however, the links and other information, I wasn't. The person who sent it to me lives in England and reads a lot. The Subject line on the email [sent to at least 50 people ~ probably those he cares about ] is "now do you believe me?" Apparently, there are some who didn't. I certainly was never one of them. Reading labels has, indeed, become a very healthy practice, from any perspective. [I'll leave the political commentary on this one alone, too. Enough is already said in the segment itself.]
" Aspartame has been linked to a full spectrum of chronic symptoms affecting men, women and children. Aspartame is a slow-acting poison now found in over 7000 foods, beverages and medicines but is known mostly as a sweetening agent in diet drinks. Known as an excitotoxin, along with MSG, both have been linked to neuro-degenerative diseases such as Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, Huntington’s disease and Multiple Sclerosis according to neuroscientist Russel Blaylock, MD. Perhaps one of the chief problems with this substance is that internally, aspartame breaks down into its constituent amino acids and methanol, which degrades into formaldehyde. The FDA totally lost all credibility with this product, which at first refused to approve it for consumption for obvious reasons. But then the man most responsible for the mess in Iraq, Donald Rumsfeld was hired by the G.D. Searle (the original developer of aspartame) as CEO who then used political muscle instead of safety tests to force approval.
In 1995 the worldwide production of aspartame reached over
13,000 tons, and so far to date since 1981 approximately
800 million pounds have been produced and consumed.
The chief patent holder of the sweetener is the Monsanto Co., based in St. Louis. In 1967, Monsanto entered into a joint venture with I.G. Farbenfabriken, the aforementioned financial core of the Hitler regime and the key supplier of poison gas to the Nazi racial extermination program. In view of Monsanto's Nazi, chemical warfare ties, and that fact that aspartame is a potent stand alone poison, NutraSweet is a can of worms unprecedented in the American food industry and casts an extraordinarily long shadow across the integrity of the FDA and the American Medical Association that should have screamed bloody murder over the issue. The history of the product is laden with flawed and fabricated research findings, basically a barrage of blatant lies provided by a battery of independent medical researchers, all of which were used as the basis of FDA approval.
Aspartame is a deliberate poisoning of the masses."
Paula H. ~ Can/will you please give a complete and accurate listing of ingredients in your muffins? I may need to bring my own. Thanks.
] is "now do you believe me?" Apparently, there are some who didn't. I certainly was never one of them. Reading labels has, indeed, become a very healthy practice, from any perspective. [I'll leave the political commentary on this one alone, too. Enough is already said in the segment itself.]" Aspartame has been linked to a full spectrum of chronic symptoms affecting men, women and children. Aspartame is a slow-acting poison now found in over 7000 foods, beverages and medicines but is known mostly as a sweetening agent in diet drinks. Known as an excitotoxin, along with MSG, both have been linked to neuro-degenerative diseases such as Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, Huntington’s disease and Multiple Sclerosis according to neuroscientist Russel Blaylock, MD. Perhaps one of the chief problems with this substance is that internally, aspartame breaks down into its constituent amino acids and methanol, which degrades into formaldehyde. The FDA totally lost all credibility with this product, which at first refused to approve it for consumption for obvious reasons. But then the man most responsible for the mess in Iraq, Donald Rumsfeld was hired by the G.D. Searle (the original developer of aspartame) as CEO who then used political muscle instead of safety tests to force approval.
In 1995 the worldwide production of aspartame reached over
13,000 tons, and so far to date since 1981 approximately
800 million pounds have been produced and consumed.
The chief patent holder of the sweetener is the Monsanto Co., based in St. Louis. In 1967, Monsanto entered into a joint venture with I.G. Farbenfabriken, the aforementioned financial core of the Hitler regime and the key supplier of poison gas to the Nazi racial extermination program. In view of Monsanto's Nazi, chemical warfare ties, and that fact that aspartame is a potent stand alone poison, NutraSweet is a can of worms unprecedented in the American food industry and casts an extraordinarily long shadow across the integrity of the FDA and the American Medical Association that should have screamed bloody murder over the issue. The history of the product is laden with flawed and fabricated research findings, basically a barrage of blatant lies provided by a battery of independent medical researchers, all of which were used as the basis of FDA approval.
Aspartame is a deliberate poisoning of the masses."
Paula H. ~ Can/will you please give a complete and accurate listing of ingredients in your muffins? I may need to bring my own. Thanks.
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:50 am
To all it may concern~
OK, a few facts to sraighten out here. Firstly, for some perspective, the attack on aspartame (NutraSweet/Equal) sounds so similar to the one launched against cyclamate and saccharin sweeteners that had them banned in the US in the 70's (?) and now exonerated! (Cyclamate is still available in Canada, I understand). Those quick to fall for the latest scare-mongers' diatribes might find it helpful to note who (what industry) has the most to gain from eliminating a serious competitor. 
(Jeeez, what a concept!) I couldn't help but laugh at the 'Nazi connections', especially as my husband new one of the biochemists (retired) who developed the sweetener for NutraSweet... very Jewish! The only 'connection' I can see is that those determined to 'eliminate' aspartame have learned the classic Nazi trick: if you're gonna tell a lie, tell a BIG lie, it's more likely to be believed! It works... for a while. (I just have to add my husband's comment here: "Never have I seen so much bullshit imparted to so many by one person!")
Now, to be perfectly clear here, * I am not an advocate for, nor a defender of, aspartame!* On the contrary! I prefer the naturally derived (and expertly recommended) sweetener sucralose, brand name Splenda, which is from sugar. I would actually be pleased if everything now sweetened with aspartame was replaced by sucralose. Not by the dastardly methods as graphically described, and illustrated, here however!! (Actually, it's all so utterly over-the-top that it is too obvious it's only a desperate ruse to skewer a political target)
The book: "Dr Atkin's New Diet Revolution" by Robert C Atkins, M.D. is a good place to start, based on 30 odd years of thousands of success stories from satisfied, healthy patients. I should mention that Dr Atkins advises avoidance of aspartame for the fact that it can affect the blood sugar in some individuals, thus slowing weight loss. The following is a relevant exerpt on this subject:- p128
**"Artificial Sweeteners
You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the following are allowed: sucralose (marketed as Splenda), saccharin, cyclamate, acesulfame-K. Natural sweeteners ending in the suffix "-ose", such as maltose, fructose, etc., should be avoided. However, certain sugar alcohols such as maltitol do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.
Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects were produced in the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high doses. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has removed saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review of the medical literature and the National Institute of Science's statement that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer". It can be safely consumed in moderation, meaning no more than three packets a day. Saccharin is marketed as Sweet'N Low. We discourage the use of aspartame (marketed as NutraSweet and Equal). The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only as a supplement, not as a sweetener. [italics mine, this para.]
My preference, however, is sucralose (Splenda), the only sweetener made from sugar. Sucralose is safe, non-caloric and does not raise blood sugar. It has been used in Canada for years, and the FDA recently approved it after reviewing more than one hundred studies conducted over the past twenty years."**
Interesting the 'deja vu' thing going on 'all over again' hmm. Always good to actually read the years of study and empirical evidence before taking an opposing view.
All fats are good (except hydrogenated oils, of couse), especially natural vegetable oils, Exra Virgin Olive Oil is the 'queen' (or Evoo as we cooks call it); butter, cheeses, eggs, nuts (especially macadamias), and all meats (just a tip: fish, fowl and lamb are the easiest on the digestive system; beef and pork the hardest). The vegetables that are nutritionally dense but low in starch/carbs are best; tomatoes, broccoli, spinach, lettuce, squash, onions and garlic (to name a few), Fruits that are the lowest in carbs, and glycemic index, are the berries; also some melons, (grapes are high on glycemic index). Eliminate all sugar, wheat flour, (bread and pasta), and potatoes from your diet and you will start to feel so much better you won't believe the difference! Avoid anything labelled "low fat", which only means 'higher carbs'. All you have to remember is: you don't count 'calories' any more, you count 'carbohydrates'. Lose weight (if you need to) without EVER feeling hungry again.
30,000,000 Americans are now on a 'low carb' lifestyle. The food industry is finally beginning to get the message, with new 'low carb' products appearing almost every month. (Yes, even chocolate and candy)
If you want to know more, plus all the fabulous low carb muffin and bread mixes available, check out the Atkins website:-
http://www.atkinscenter.com
Happy, healthy living,
bon appetite!
~Makera
PS I should mention that I put my family on this over 18 months ago, we had only a few pounds to shed (your metabolism slows over 35-40) but the health benefits were immediate. My husband's asthmatic-type breathing episodes vanished (he doesn't smoke), plus a rheumatic ache in his upper arm.
PPS Dr Atkins was a cardiologist. No "allopathy" (or homeopathy) involved here! (He died earlier this year in a freak accident -- slipped on ice on a New York street, hitting the back of his head!)
OK, a few facts to sraighten out here.
Firstly, for some perspective, the attack on aspartame (NutraSweet/Equal) sounds so similar to the one launched against cyclamate and saccharin sweeteners that had them banned in the US in the 70's (?) and now exonerated! (Cyclamate is still available in Canada, I understand). Those quick to fall for the latest scare-mongers' diatribes might find it helpful to note who (what industry) has the most to gain from eliminating a serious competitor. (Jeeez, what a concept!) I couldn't help but laugh at the 'Nazi connections', especially as my husband new one of the biochemists (retired) who developed the sweetener for NutraSweet... very Jewish! The only 'connection' I can see is that those determined to 'eliminate' aspartame have learned the classic Nazi trick: if you're gonna tell a lie, tell a BIG lie, it's more likely to be believed! It works... for a while. (I just have to add my husband's comment here: "Never have I seen so much bullshit imparted to so many by one person!")Now, to be perfectly clear here, * I am not an advocate for, nor a defender of, aspartame!* On the contrary! I prefer the naturally derived (and expertly recommended) sweetener sucralose, brand name Splenda, which is from sugar. I would actually be pleased if everything now sweetened with aspartame was replaced by sucralose. Not by the dastardly methods as graphically described, and illustrated, here however!! (Actually, it's all so utterly over-the-top that it is too obvious it's only a desperate ruse to skewer a political target)
The book: "Dr Atkin's New Diet Revolution" by Robert C Atkins, M.D. is a good place to start, based on 30 odd years of thousands of success stories from satisfied, healthy patients. I should mention that Dr Atkins advises avoidance of aspartame for the fact that it can affect the blood sugar in some individuals, thus slowing weight loss. The following is a relevant exerpt on this subject:- p128
**"Artificial Sweeteners
You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the following are allowed: sucralose (marketed as Splenda), saccharin, cyclamate, acesulfame-K. Natural sweeteners ending in the suffix "-ose", such as maltose, fructose, etc., should be avoided. However, certain sugar alcohols such as maltitol do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.
Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects were produced in the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high doses. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has removed saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review of the medical literature and the National Institute of Science's statement that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer". It can be safely consumed in moderation, meaning no more than three packets a day. Saccharin is marketed as Sweet'N Low. We discourage the use of aspartame (marketed as NutraSweet and Equal). The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only as a supplement, not as a sweetener. [italics mine, this para.]
My preference, however, is sucralose (Splenda), the only sweetener made from sugar. Sucralose is safe, non-caloric and does not raise blood sugar. It has been used in Canada for years, and the FDA recently approved it after reviewing more than one hundred studies conducted over the past twenty years."**
Interesting the 'deja vu' thing going on 'all over again' hmm. Always good to actually read the years of study and empirical evidence before taking an opposing view.
All fats are good (except hydrogenated oils, of couse), especially natural vegetable oils, Exra Virgin Olive Oil is the 'queen' (or Evoo as we cooks call it); butter, cheeses, eggs, nuts (especially macadamias), and all meats (just a tip: fish, fowl and lamb are the easiest on the digestive system; beef and pork the hardest). The vegetables that are nutritionally dense but low in starch/carbs are best; tomatoes, broccoli, spinach, lettuce, squash, onions and garlic (to name a few), Fruits that are the lowest in carbs, and glycemic index, are the berries; also some melons, (grapes are high on glycemic index). Eliminate all sugar, wheat flour, (bread and pasta), and potatoes from your diet and you will start to feel so much better you won't believe the difference! Avoid anything labelled "low fat", which only means 'higher carbs'. All you have to remember is: you don't count 'calories' any more, you count 'carbohydrates'. Lose weight (if you need to) without EVER feeling hungry again.
30,000,000 Americans are now on a 'low carb' lifestyle. The food industry is finally beginning to get the message, with new 'low carb' products appearing almost every month. (Yes, even chocolate and candy)
If you want to know more, plus all the fabulous low carb muffin and bread mixes available, check out the Atkins website:-
http://www.atkinscenter.com
Happy, healthy living,
bon appetite!
~Makera
PS I should mention that I put my family on this over 18 months ago, we had only a few pounds to shed (your metabolism slows over 35-40) but the health benefits were immediate. My husband's asthmatic-type breathing episodes vanished (he doesn't smoke), plus a rheumatic ache in his upper arm.
PPS Dr Atkins was a cardiologist. No "allopathy" (or homeopathy) involved here! (He died earlier this year in a freak accident -- slipped on ice on a New York street, hitting the back of his head!)
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:51 am
Afterword:
Byron~
You were quite right about our original design being hunter-gatherers etc. The recommendation to drink plenty of water is good advice for everyone. There is no 'special' need to on Atkins for anything to do with any risk to kidneys. (Only people with existing kidney disease have to be careful, and consult their physician first) That was one of the bits of misinformation thrown out by the defensive dietary-dogma proponents to try to 'scare' people off. The real reason you need to drink more water in the "Induction Phase" of the Atkin's regimen is to ensure ease of 'eliminations'. You take in much less vegetable matter in the first 2 weeks, while your body switches from 'carb burning' to 'fat burning'. After that you gradually introduce other veges, and so on. I'm glad to hear the doctors over there are starting to 'get with the programme' too. I betcha the ol' doc is pleased to see the Revolution he started 30 years ago is really taking off!
Warmest regards to you and yours,
from me and mine,
~Makera
PS Moderate amounts of crisp bacon are OK; better if you can find 'nitrite free' though.
Byron~
You were quite right about our original design being hunter-gatherers etc. The recommendation to drink plenty of water is good advice for everyone. There is no 'special' need to on Atkins for anything to do with any risk to kidneys. (Only people with existing kidney disease have to be careful, and consult their physician first) That was one of the bits of misinformation thrown out by the defensive dietary-dogma proponents to try to 'scare' people off. The real reason you need to drink more water in the "Induction Phase" of the Atkin's regimen is to ensure ease of 'eliminations'.
You take in much less vegetable matter in the first 2 weeks, while your body switches from 'carb burning' to 'fat burning'. After that you gradually introduce other veges, and so on. I'm glad to hear the doctors over there are starting to 'get with the programme' too. I betcha the ol' doc is pleased to see the Revolution he started 30 years ago is really taking off!Warmest regards to you and yours,
from me and mine,
~Makera
PS Moderate amounts of crisp bacon are OK; better if you can find 'nitrite free' though.
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:19 pm
~ ~
"The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only as a supplement, not as a sweetener."
Such a sweet sentence couldn't any better condense the ultimate, infinite "wisdom" of the FDA [aka political bedfellow of the heavily-lobbied, pharmaceutical companies] . With Stevia [as already noted], approximately 10 times sweeter than sugar cane, sure wouldn't want to approve something for the grocery shelves that is not only very sweet, but natural and clearly good and nutritional for you, as well! Might truly benefit those trying to live a healthier life ~ and result in some serious competition, for the companies whose profit motives are directly linked to the checkout line.
Meanwhile, far be it for anyone wise, to use anything that's not FDA-approved .
~ "The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only as a supplement, not as a sweetener."
Such a sweet sentence couldn't any better condense the ultimate, infinite "wisdom" of the FDA [aka political bedfellow of the heavily-lobbied, pharmaceutical companies]
. With Stevia [as already noted], approximately 10 times sweeter than sugar cane, sure wouldn't want to approve something for the grocery shelves that is not only very sweet, but natural and clearly good and nutritional for you, as well! Might truly benefit those trying to live a healthier life ~ and result in some serious competition, for the companies whose profit motives are directly linked to the checkout line.Meanwhile, far be it for anyone wise, to use anything that's not FDA-approved
.Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:56 pm
Maybe we could stand on the frontlines and throw unhealthy muffins at the enemy. That way we could have a war and purge the land of unhealthy muffins. For countries too starved to notice or care, we could hold a bake sale!
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:08 pm
I am really fed up with this constant beefing about blasted muffins. Muffins, muffins, muffins, morning noon and dinner time is all we are getting spread across our screens with tons of information, which is impossible to digest. I can't stomach much more of this mish-mash of offerings. I was brought up on generous portions of raw cold porridge and it didn't do me any harnn. Many's the time I strolled down to the local ferret sexing fair what was held every 5th Friday in January except leap years when it was moved to the first Sunday in Aquarius. It was the reason for one's existence in this muffin strewn world. You lot don't know the meaning of abstinence when it comes to suffering for your arse. Porridge is what you need. Great lumping gobbs of it. Just look at the likes of Andrew M. A true and honest gentleman of the green and white stripers. It didn't do him any harnn either. And then there's Pete. Look at that face in the gallery and tell me that that man hasn't eaten tons of porridge in his early years (long long ago in a Gallery far far away)
You're all besotted with muffins and they will be your downfall. I know this for a fact. I have heard it from the lips of the Avatar of muffins himself. Look no further than to the left of this message and see the face of the Tooth
TRUTH!!!!
I tell you all, repent and return to the porridge, the only true path to happiness, justice, and dentures.
Byron 'sends his regards.'
"Can I have my tablets now Matron?"
You're all besotted with muffins and they will be your downfall. I know this for a fact. I have heard it from the lips of the Avatar of muffins himself. Look no further than to the left of this message and see the face of the Tooth
TRUTH!!!!I tell you all, repent and return to the porridge, the only true path to happiness, justice, and dentures.
Byron 'sends his regards.'
"Can I have my tablets now Matron?"