.. thank you, Casey, for this.. it's just stunning.. and thank you for caring that I've been sad.. it really touches me that you do..
I just had a dream this morning.. I was in a bedroom.. and this child had to be hidden there.. I don't know if it was a boy or a girl, but the child was hidden in the bedding at the bottom of the bed.. the child was nearly falling to the floor.. A woman was visiting, and I was showing her all the lovely.. needle work, perhaps, that I was doing.. I was to make her something similar.. there were the colors gold and violet involved.. And then this woman did the official search for the child, and thankfully didn't find anything.. It was something like Nazi Germany, only I'm not Jewish, and it wasn't explicit in the dream as to why I needed to hide this child.. or even how I was connected to this child.. [later note.. I would add here, that the child, I suggest, represents an aspect or aspects of myself, which I felt needed hiding.. perhaps something related to my "child self"..]..
.. Hi I.F.. I guess I started one of those dream journals, like the one you used to keep..
... but gold and violet.. the golden eagle.. and the hare (associated with that dark and velvety unconscious).. (I just thought of a book called The Velveteen Rabbit, which I've always meant to read)..
Okay.. moving on.. [later note.. oh, I would add, that I believe this post is mean to be PART III (of what I had been thinking about before)..]...
Casey Butler wrote:
I'm glad you're clear on the Abyss, the Void, the Hero Cycle, and New Good Things. I'm a little sorry you see me as so ignorant of them.
Casey
By way of explaining things more, Casey.. in your saying the above, it’s similar to saying I was being patronizing.. that’s what I.F. and I were referring to..To my mind, at least, I wasn't telling you these things with a sense of superiority about things, as if you were the poor unenlightened one, in need of my greater understanding.. I was just exploring ideas with you.. and not with any particular thought as to how exactly these things would be received.. I assumed you'd be interested, even if you don't always understand where I'm coming from.. Anyway, Casey, you can always ask a question.. and I can try to clarify..
As to my feeling hurt by you, perhaps you would consider tempering your writing style, as quite often I feel I’m being “accused” somehow.. Perhaps you can find a way to say the same things without having me feell as if I'm being bulldozed, as I’m fairly certain that’s not what you intend for me to feel.. For example, you might say you wish I wrote a bit more sometimes.. as opposed to saying that I don't have the time to really care.. I’m hardly the person not to care, and it makes me wonder what you see in me at all that you should say that..
Oh, and I hardly feel omnipotent.. confused by your posts at times (just as you, apparently, are confused by mine), but not omnipotent.. Poems, however, can sometimes feel to be omnipotnent.. and even just plain writing, maybe, if I’m allowing for a broader poetic feel to something.. None of this is directed “at” you, however, it’s just a way of expressing these ideas..
.. oh and, hi Cate.. thanks so much for the poem appreciation.. maybe some of the following will add to these ideas.. but I feel, especially with the first part of what you said, that you're on track with what I too was thinking about as I wrote it..
Okay, Casey.. here's some Shakespeare material..
On the play Hamlet, Harold Bloom, who I feel to be just a wonderful literary critic (and probably the best read man on the planet when it comes to literature, or at least the Western Canon).. anyway, he referred to the genius-Prince Hamlet’s death as an apotheosis of mind [later note.. this might be my phrasing, actually.. not sure].. In other words, his death seemed to Bloom (every time he watched the play) a deification of sorts.. One never left the theater feeling sad, exactly.. but instead as if Hamlet had imparted something to us all.. (this according to Bloom).. Indeed, Bloom always found himself leaving the theater feeling somehow edified by Hamlet's end.. as the fair prince is carried off the stage.. to the sound of solemn drum beats..
.. Oh, and sun wise, Hamlet says in one of his earliest lines in this gargantuan play, “I’m too much in the sun”.. Shakespeare intending it to be a pun on “son”.. Hamlet was the grieving son of the king who had just died.. Hamlet will soon learn (from his father's ghost, in fact) that it was Hamlet's uncle Claudius who did the evil deed, killing his brother the king, then hastily marrying Queen Gertrude, the king's wife and Hamlet's (rather lusty) mother..
In terms of my mentioning again the golden eagle and the hare in relation to Hamlet and Ophelia.. all I’m speaking of really are aspects of being, such as the conscious mind.. (i.e., the sun).. and the unconscious (i.e., the moon)..
And so.. as opposed Hamlet and the sun.. Ophelia is aligned with nature, and the moon (its connection to water).. given that the following is her (most beautiful) death poem.. spoken by Queen Gertrude..
GERTRUDE: There is a willow grows askant the brook,
That shows his hoar leaves in the glassy stream.
Therewith fantastic garlands did she make
Of crowflowers, nettles, daisies, and long purples
That liberal shepherds give a grosser name,
But our cold maids do deadmen’s fingers call them.
There on the pendant boughs her crownet weeds
Clambering to hang, an envious sliver broke,
When down her weedy trophies and herself
Fell in the weeping brook. Her clothes spread wide,
And mermaidlike awhile they bore her up,
Which time she chanted snatches of old lauds,
As one incapable of her own distress,
Or like a creature native and indued
Unto that element. But long it could not be
Till that her garments, heavy with their drink,
pulled the poor wretch from her melodious lay
to muddy death.
LAERTES (Ophelia's brother): Alas, then, she is drowned?
GERTRUDE: Drowned, drowned.
And so Ophelia (and these are ideas I've had on this subject) is aligned with the moon, given her watery end.. Hamlet’s mind, though unparalleled, perhaps, in the history of Western thought, nevertheless lacked something when it came to Ophelia.. Bloom suggests that contemporary audiences love Hamlet since Hamlet himself doesn’t need love.. (with the possible exception of his love for his dear friend, Horatio).. And yet, what do we make of Hamlet’s supposed great love, Ophelia?.. why is she there at all, in such close proximity to him, if indeed he loses interest in her?.. and what do we make of her love for the genius prince?.. Indeed, hers is a generous and high minded love, for even after being torn to shreds by the prince’s stabbing tongue (after their brief period of impassioned romance), she has this to say of her beloved Hamlet..
O, what a noble mind is here o'erthrown!
The courtier's, soldier's, scholar's, eye -- tongue -- sword,
Th 'expectancy and rose of the fair state,
The glass of fashion and the mold of form,
Th' observed of all observers, quite quite down!
And I, of ladies most deject and wretched,
That sucked the honey of his musicked vows,
Now see that noble and most sovereign reason,
Like sweet bells jangled out of tune and harsh,
That unmatched form and feature of blown youth,*
Blasted with ecstasy. O, woe is me,
T' have seen what I have seen, see what I see!
[*this would mean "full blown" youth, at the height of
youth's attributes.. and "blasted with ecstasy" has to do
with what she perceives as Hamlet's madness]..
.. and so she mourns the seeming passing of so great a mind (as it appears to her, and to many, in fact, that Hamlet is mad).. and never does she condemn him for his own condemnation of her, as portrayed in the famous "Get thee to a nunnery" scene, to which the above is her response.. It is an incomprehensible cruelty on Hamlet's part -- his ill treatment of Ophelia throughout the play.. which eventually leads to her madness.. and watery end..
.. why does Hamlet "kill off" such perfect beauty?.. true and sound?
.. and what of that dark and watery unconscious (that we all fear) constitutes Ophelia's madness?..
Your vultures, Casey, even though they may symbolize transformation in a sense (as I posted before).. seem an ominous sign to me.. they await death, no?.. (.. that's how they seem to me -- ominous and foreboding -- as they await death on those highest branches of the pecan tree.. Although in flight.. there is something masterful.. and wondrous about them.. which I'll get to in another post)..
And speaking of awaiting death.. or more philosophically speaking, contemplating being vs. non being.. Hamlet, the genius prince, speaks of conscioiusness.. what he terms “conscience” in his famous "To be or not to be speech".. It is our awareness of our own mortality, our inability to know what lies beyond it, that makes us cowards, he says.. Is it that we cling to life, to what we “know," fearing to let go?.. to move beyond that which is "known"?.. is it just death he is speaking of?.. what the fear is, I mean..
[HAMLET]: ".. but that the dread of something after death, the undiscovered country from whose bourn no traveller returns.. puzzles the will, and makes us rather bear those ills we have, then fly to others that we know not of"..
.. it seems here the death he fears is rather like the unconscious mind itself.. (maybe)..
.. Hamlet feigns madness.. In this he sets up a trap for fools to step into.. Yet Ophelia actually goes mad.. Her madness is not the kind of letting go that is pretty to look at.. She is indeed a woman most deject..
.. Like the moon.. Ophelia receives her light from Hamlet, with Hamlet as her sun.. He gives her life its "reason".. But Hamlet has left her in the dark.. she recedes to those darkest passages of mind.. And in order to quell an aching heart, she builds her death bed.. The velvet purple robes that were to be hers upon being crowned princess.. have instead become those velvety petals belonging to "long purples," one of the flowers she strews in her death garland (that was so beautifully described by the queen).. Perhaps it's this garland (or garlands), and not just her gown, that buoys Ophelia awhile.. before she sinks.. unto the depths..
Hamlet rises like the sun above us.. as Ophelia recedes into the depths within us.. [later note.. or even those depths surrounding us.. the water's darkness, that may conjure our deepest fears.. and that most cold aloneness.. ]..
In her madness.. Ophelia speaks symbolically through her handing out flowers to the king the queen.. Hamlet has killed Ophelia's father, Polonius.. one of the fools Hamlet has often toyed with.. though Polonius' death is an accident, as it turns out, as Hamlet had meant to kill King Claudius, and indeed thought it was the king who was hiding behind the drapes in the queen's bedroom, and not Polonius..
.. as to the death of Ophelia's father.. the king and queen, wanting to avoid scandal, inter Polonius' body in great haste.. and without ceremony.. [later note.. At the very least, Polonius was their most faithful servant, and as such, was not deserving of such neglect]..
.. but back to Ophelia's handing out of these symbolic flowers and herbs to the king and queen..
.. fennel is one.. symbol of flattery… and columbine.. symbol of faithlessness… ingratitude… Emblem of Deceived Lovers… [later note.. Her father, Ophelia lamented, should have had violets (symbol of faithfulness, as it happens).. but, alas.. they were all wilted]..[there's more that could be said here.. especially as there are other flowers she hands out.. to her brother, for example.. but that's enough for now]..
Ophelia “holds” the truth, the way the unconscious mind does.. for even if something within us never comes to full consciousness.. it most often gets acted out in our lives.. as we paint our daily portrait by all that we do and say and are..
.. Ophelia returns to nature through her watery, flower-strewn death, and is always remembered as something too utterly good and beautiful to have to part with.. and so we keep with us, in our collective imagination, as it were, her constant parting.. her sad and tragic yet restful floating.. upon that river of our lapsed consciousness.. she seems a kind of water Goddess.. and so her death, too, seems a deification..
BUT, you may well ask, Casey.. what does this all mean for us?..
I think it's what the thread is searching for.. meaning.. here, and now..
.. and it is the mind that enlightens.. offends.. imprisons.. and frees us..
.. as we look to grasp something wondrous.. and sustaining even..
..(.. in so speaking, I think this is worth one more look)..
.. perhaps I'll look more at Ophelia's flowers.. their symbolism..
... but for now, I'm heading upstate,
sincerely, and in gratitude for your photos, and your kindness,
v i o l e t (flower).. (still drinking that strong Irish tea)..
.. oh, and here's poor Ophelia, again.. maybe this has more meaning now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsWi5nOHKLo
FULL SCREEN
.. early morning edits.. just a tweak or two.. nothing substantial..
.. latest edits.. just tweaking, nothing substantial again.. notes in text provided too..