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never mind
wrong thread.

vince wrote:

how can I be violent
on a message board.

bloody hell woman.

It IS a disgrace.

I'm thinking of suing* for slander and for mis-reading my mind/motives and posting those lies on a public forum.

Bloody hell is right.


*just kidding

why so shrill and agitated?


are these threads bugged?

Check your hearing aide.
The signals aren't coming through properly.

I've been vindicated.
No apologies to be had, but I can live with that.
I'll just consider the source.

cheers,
Laurie

Hello?
yes Scotland Yard please...


sipping cold beer and not caring

Vince, I am starting to become concerned with your drinking...It is because Heathcliff called you a bastard, right?
Maybe a call to a doctor is in order....

I gotta go now.
byebye

you say "bastard"
like it's a bad thing


how odd.

so what ya drinking Laurie?
I can mix the finest
domestic cleaner cocktails
in town.

we'll discuss it
when I'm sober
it was me that said it
why wait all this
time to mention it?
I can't find the thread
you're in.
abouit the wedding car.

So, that's your idea of "Vindication," Laurie? A group of names [not people; notice that I've made a distinction there *wink*wink*] come in and go, "Yeah, Yeah, Laurie! Yeah, Yeah!" You MUST have been feeling alone, if that's all it takes. Pretty weak.

I guess you've never noticed that just being in a similar group does not necessarily make one right. Even being in the majority does not necessarily make one right. I won't bother with the plethora of examples.

Feel vindicated if you like ~ maybe we have many more fine examples of your exemplar behaviour to look forward to now. Look how emboldened you've become already ~ just step right up to the plate and hiss "Sucker." Not that that's so far off from what you've done to date, of course.

I hope you'll at least still be having your Pity Party. You really do owe it to yourself. Sorry I can't attend, but I'll be having something important to do that night or day. However, I can give you a long

" W A A A A A A A

A A A A A A H H H

H H H H H H H H H

H H H H H "

~ in advance ~ wrapped in black and tied with black ribbon, to suit the t-r-a-a-a-a-a-gic proportions of this experience for you . Just a word to the unwise. Don't venture into the Newsgroup. With the kind of wailings you've done here, based on the specks of dust that they've been, you'll get cut to bloody shreds there . Self-pity and Wailing and Self-pity and Wailing will go off the charts, at the same time reaching whole new levels. But, then, who knows ~ you might just roll on in and do juuuuuuust fine.



As for me, I still believe you, Heathcliffe. My unimaginary, 'imaginary' friend. Too bad, isn't it, that some people just can't get past the fact that the theme and key words in a person's life don't necessarily just disappear, simply because seven months have passed. Oh, well. You can't help that, and neither can I.

~ Lizzy

I've taken a lesson from lizz and done some research. It is the last time i will do it. It is quite obnoxious and anal.
For the record, all I know of March is what has been mentioned on the board and a single pm this afternoon. It has been totally off my horizon from the start. I determined Heathcliff was an imaginary creature without it.

Liz wrote:

Cool. Very cool. Much better. Thanks. Now I can call off your dogs on Laurie

liz to me:

Of course, Laurie ~ I was well aware of that; did you somehow miss it? I called them on you, the same as I 'called them off.'

(referring to the "dogs")

More dog calling stuff on me:

however, I felt inclined to point out that he was 'picking on' Vince, if he was going to bypass you. However, once he relented on Vince, I felt equally inclined to dismiss the issue with you. That's called "fair's fair," too.

Above:
Determining my crime and my sentence.....

talking to Heath:

As for what occurs here, you're not 'responsible' ~ we all have choices, and we all make them. I chose to respond to you the way I have, and then could've let it slide, regarding your post to Vince, but decided not to. Others had the same choices with regard to their entries here.

liz to me:

Reality is, though, that some people are very tender of heart and he was pretty obviously feeling vulnerable when he wrote. If I were that age, and looking for someone who might understand how I was feeling, and be able to give some relevant feedback, I think this site would be a pretty good bet. I also think he got the kind of relevant feedback he was hoping for.

liz to H.

Hi Heathcliffe ~

I hope you'll decide to stick around. I'm sorry that some people have been mean-spirited toward you. You don't deserve it.

~ Lizzy

~

liz again stating her reasoning Why she was perfectly justified in inviting Heathcliff to let the dogs at me:

and as I said at the time, perhaps, a case of "reverse sexism"? As in, okay to hear a similar thing from a female, but not something from another guy? "A guy thing" can be done by a female, as well.

to John K.

If you're going to troll, at least make it count in some, substantial way. Otherwise, let it ride.

~~~ to Me;

Cyberspace carries no guarantees of identity, purpose, or motive ~ no matter how well you think you know that you know that you know. I go with my instincts, which generally have proven to be good

.

to me:

My, my, my ~ a bit defensive . Whatever could that mean ? A sleight of hand sometimes warrants and deserves a pit-bull grasp. Sleights of hand are every bit as annoying. And just look at all the melodrama in that second paragraph . You and YdF should really collaborate on Grade B novelettes. You both have such a flair for it.

to me:

I don't believe you regarding the 'wind up' premise. Sorry about that. I can't pretend to believe you, and when you continue to return to say something negative here, and once again introduce that false premise; yes, I will again say I do not believe you. It's not "bad behavior" ~ it's calling a spade, a spade.

to me:

I do have one question, though; one I've been having right along. Why does someone suddenly catapult to the highest levels of "smart cookie" and other, such references when they provide an opened, trap door for you?

Still accusing me of being deceitful when it was untrue and obvious to most everyone else.

by heathcliff:

Some people have really p*ssed me off - like you have done with your replete comments which have had no constructive viewpoint whatsoever - just a cheap, childish jibe and ridicule at the cost of someone else's sanity. Goodbye.

by lizz to tom...

Well, Tom, it would seem you've done some research. However, as Heathcliff has pointed out, if you don't care, why are you here?

In the beginning I weighed out whether I thought Heathcliffe's issues were real or not. Finally, decided they were, and then entered into [what has now become] the fray. If I made an error in judgement with that assessment ~ I was hurting no one by it, and attacking no one in the process.

Uh, yeah attacking no one.

by lizz to tom...

You don't seem[?] to get it that I only responded regarding Laurie after Heathcliffe bashed Vince. Fair is fair. The operative words in it were, "If your harsh response to Vince is to stand, then what about Laurie's post to you?" Pretty simple. As soon as he apologized regarding Vince, I dropped it about Laurie.

(more reference to being Judge and Jury and executioner)

lizzy to me (regarding Heath):

It is equally, abundantly clear that you had no time for his expressions, and chose derision as a response. Has it EVER occurred to you that someone age 23 may not have the coping skills for real life that you , twice his age, don't even have for friggin' cyberlife!

Take all those whiney, self-absorbed words and eat them along with the ones I've already given you back. That saying goes to the effect of be careful of the words you use, as you one day may have to eat them. So, chow down, honey.

lizz to byron~

Whoops ~

('bold' my artistic insert to 'whoops')


Liz, you were as right about me, my motives and my postings as you were that Heathcliffe was r.e.a.l.

I just don't know how you do all this research/post stuff on a regular basis. It is the beginning and end of my forum R&D career.

ciao,
L

Oh wait, don't go into the Newsgroup? What the hell is that? You got more dogs to call on me there? Like i said, a bully.I have no idea what 7 months refers to? No. I don't care.
And I don't 'get' the self pity stuff either liz. Is that what you are calling not lying down and taking your shit? No. I don't care about this either.

Math 101 ~ March to October = 7 months. Use your fingers to count if you must. Of course you have no idea what it refers to ~ after all, it does concern someone else's life.

I truly don't care what who thinks about my accusing you of "being deceitful when it was untrue and obvious to most everyone else" ~ but your PM box must have been stuffed to the gills, hearing what "most everyone else" believes . I have my own beliefs and, in this case, I've seen nothing that would affect what they've been right along on this matter.

It would've been nice if you'd tied all of my quotes together in some, tangible , cohesive, meaningful way. I remember what I've said.

The "self pity stuff" is all the emoticons and histrionic verbiage regarding maltreatment of your poor, waiflike self. That ~ is self-pity.

No, dear, sweetie pie, oh vulnerable one ~ I was suggesting you NOT go into the Newsgroup. My, how you love to misread things. I'm not trying to bully you; I'm trying to protect you. You know how you were trying to protect all of us adults whose emotions you say Heathcliffe was playing with. You know how we couldn't possibly deal with such a thing absent your protection. As a matter of fact, I don't see how we adults can even function without your own, wisely ways of the world ~ with who's what and why.

Enough time spent on this hopeless, hapless endeavour with you.

Ciao.

St. Elizabeth aka Queen Elizabeth
[Hmmm. Which really does look better?]

The "self pity stuff" is all the emoticons and histrionic verbiage regarding maltreatment of your poor, waiflike self. That ~ is self-pity.

Oh, this is rich. I used like 3 IRONIC emoticons (all today) during the past few days of this discussion...

You are nuts.

March to October = 7 months. Use your fingers to count if you must. Of course you have no idea what it refers to ~ after all, it does concern someone else's life.

Yes, liz it concerns your imaginary friends life. Are you kidding me?

You are nuts.

love,
L.
p.s.
thanks for 'warning' me away from a place you know i have never been.

you'll get cut to bloody shreds there

NO. Doesn't sound like a threat to me....

Hi Vince ~

I'll go ahead and initiate our discussion while you're still asleep. Then, when you wake up [hopefully refreshed], it'll be here for you.

I did mention it at the time. I said ~ "Vince ~ You're pitiful." and walked away. Tri-me gave her own input, as to the unacceptability of it, as well. Linda said nothing, presumably[?] because it was fine with her if I dragged behind the car with the tin cans because I didn't approve of her impending marriage here. Geez, talk about convicted and punished for a crime! Where was my protector LAURIE when I needed her there!?! I guess buffing up her bully muscles for later use ~ like when I was expressing sadness regarding hurricane victims.

[Well, no matter that she has a real-life husband ~ mentioned here a number of times ~ before Laurie goes off on another tangent, that I've revealed a secret, a confidentiality ~ anyway, in the interest of protecting Linda, like her good friend Laurie feels she must protect us, other adults, looking back, I really don't think it was necessarily such a good thing that she was aligning herself for marriage on a public forum, whilst her husband was in the background feeding the dog, or whatever.....you know how we must protect other people and their own, best interests, right ? All of that is an aside, though.]

Alright, alright, I know.....back to the subject.

Yes, Vince. Words and described actions can be considered violence. It's why cyberstalking is considered a violent crime. It's why verbal abuse is considered violent. It's why your description of the violent act of tying someone to a moving vehicle and dragging them behind in the dirt, was violent.

~ Lizzy

You're welcome , Laurie ! Just concerned for your emotions, dear. Don't want anyone playing with them .

Oh, you think your behaviours toward me have been restricted to just today? You need more protection than I thought. This may call for hiring extra help.

[As to Byron and Margaret, by the way, all you did was luck out and come upon an escape hatch to jump on their bandwagon ~ and then try to catch some of the ambient light of 'knowing'. Don't try to spend that credit you think you've gleaned in the process. It's counterfeit currency.]

One simple request *chokes back tears* ~ Since you're so concerned for everyone's emotional welfare *sniff*sniff* and well being, would you PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE *sniff*sniff* leave ME and MY "IMAGINARY FRIEND" ALONE ~ you cruel, cruel woman, who's supposed to be helping all us other, grown people *sobs uncontrollably* !?! My emotions hang in the balance, oh pleeeeeeeease Laurie, pleeeeeeeeeeease . I've NEVER had an imaginary friend *tears spill down cheeks* and always wanted one *takes deep breath* and, and, and almost everyone else had one ~ even that bratty girl, Laurie, in Alaska had one ~ and, and, and now YOU ~ you cruel, cruel woman, who's supposed to be helping all us other, grown people ~ want to destroy him and ridicule me for having him! Don't you know the FIRST thing about Childhood Development ~ and those of us still suffering the after-shocks of unmet, childhood needs ? You're supposed to humour me and ask him if he would like to join us for lunch ! I just don't understand *dissolves into sniffles again* if you care so much for my emotions, why do you try to convince me he doesn't exist. I'm in so much PAIN . I know ~ I just KNOW ~ you MUST owe me an APOLOGY! I expect it by morning.

Trying to buck up ,
Lizzy

Lizzy~

Did you copy and paste any of my posts into the entity called:
Newsgroup(s)?
The one you mentioned would tear me to bloody shreds?
Remember, you are under oath.

L
p.s. please stop with the ridiculous posts. You are not inventive enough to be funny...it just makes you look vindictive and a very sore loser. (just trying to help)
p.p.s. You are nuts.